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Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 03:41:37 PM / 16-Sep-07
Thats right. For the few of you who have heard me so briefly slip the information that I have obtained a new project car- THIS IS IT.

Today, Sunday, September 16th, 2007- The car will be unveiled to the rest of the club:

So Matt- KEEP YOUR TRAP SHUT!

I will get photos in a few hours, and that, my friends, is when you will see what I will be turning into a road beast.

For those who know what it is SAY NOTHING!

For those of you who want a hint and would like to guess, here ya go:

"Type 1"

Thats all ya get, because anything else might give it away to someone who knows how to really use Google.

STAY TUNED!!!
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 03:51:36 PM / 16-Sep-07
Does it float ;D
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 03:53:36 PM / 16-Sep-07
Drop some acid and it could do anything you want
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 08:24:30 PM / 16-Sep-07
Here she is!

A beautiful 1973 Volkswagen Super Beetle!
1600cc air-cooled 4 speed BEAST! LOL!


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/s12racer/31784a9b.jpg)
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Sean1978 on 08:34:46 PM / 16-Sep-07
Great, I was expecting a S12 with an AWD RB26 swap, TT LS1, or some other crazy shit.

I got a bug  

Are you going to do a porche engine swap?
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 08:43:35 PM / 16-Sep-07
Let me check the low-income college student wallet...

NO!

I'm thinkin (after we square up some issues, and its in good driving condition) a nice exhaust, still contemplating on carb setup (single massive 2 barrel or twin singles) but leaning more for the twin singles (shorter intake runner, less heatsoak). Then probably I'll lower it a bit, hopefully get around to a front disc conversion, then it will be TURBO TIME!!!

But how much is a Porsche engine to swap in? Like which engine?

Oh yea, ALL the turbo kits for the Bug are WRONG! A turbo pulling through the carb? ARE THEY NUTS?!?!?!
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 08:58:19 PM / 16-Sep-07
dude, you in that car must be a tight fit lol....  Beetles can be made to be real quick, fun cars, just don't get in any accidents   A friend of mine is real into those, and has built several that are pretty fast, and the next one will be a turbo
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: CallaroSX on 08:59:36 PM / 16-Sep-07
That is a very small turbine incabulator.
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: EternalSwap on 09:19:17 PM / 16-Sep-07
Two words

Body
Drop
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 10:13:47 PM / 16-Sep-07
Okay, I actually fit pretty well in there. I know, you saw how... "husky" I am, but its actually pretty nice... I can rest my ENTIRE ARM against the outside of the door with the window down. The window sill goes into my armpit. Its cool!

Yea, I am to make this thing pretty quick. Remember I only HALF own it, so if my fiancee absolutely says no, then I cant so whatever it is she said no to... But so far she has no problem with turbocharging it.

And you wanna talk about low? This is a Super Beetle (quick lesson)

The Standard Beetle has a torsion bar suspension front AND rear. The Super Beetle (Introduced in the late 60s- forget exact year) has a coil-over spring and strut front suspension with a torsion bar rear.

SO- There are kits out there to drop the front 5".... Thats right, FIVE INCHES. And the rear- Just turn the torsion bar a notch or two.

Go-Fast goodies on the list:
Ratio rockers (probably go for the 1.4:1) and better pushrods.
High RPM Valvesprings (so I can really get the use out of the turbo)
Dual 1 barrel carbs
Turbo

I'm hoping that will shoot me to around the 150hp range, and that will avoid any heavy duty engine mods.
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: DYMO on 10:36:48 PM / 16-Sep-07
it needs a v8
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Sean1978 on 11:29:37 PM / 16-Sep-07
I'm pretty sure the VW bus used a porche 914 engine, I think you can swap that into the beetle and make it quick.
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: seishuku on 07:29:37 PM / 18-Sep-07
Hahaha, awesome. And it's ORANGE!
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 08:02:12 PM / 18-Sep-07
Well for engines, my fiancee's brother has a '71 Super Beetle rotting away in a mess that is a garage. No engine in it, but 2 are out sitting NEXT to it, and from what I've been told, one is "bigger".

I have a chart I downloaded and it says what engines where in what cars starting in whatever year. and I'm pretty sure the bus got the biggest, but they also got dual carbs, instead of the single.

Anywho, I found a kit for the price I like on the net- dual 44 2 barrel carbs. Gonna look something like this:
(http://content.mamotorworks.com/img300/fr6564.jpg)

The kit looks like this:
(http://www.lovinbuggies.com/product/1103_l.jpg)

That is pretty much the same pic as the one that more expensive. The genuine Weber dual 44 IDF kit retails at least 700 to 800 bucks. The EMPI version of it is 500 and I have only found it in one place for special order. To me, looks the same, probably performs the same (because it was modeled after the Weber kit, just probably costs less to manufacture), so I'm all for it.

And no- there will be no Stinger exhaust on this baby, so nobody even ask.

Oh yea, the bus got a 2.0L engine in 1976, but in 1974 it was switched to fuel injection... which I've heard really SUCK on the air cooled VW (as far as performance goes). But I'll lurk some forums and ask questions, maybe I'll get one and make it carb'd and turbo'd and fast as hell.
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 05:06:31 PM / 23-Sep-07
Okay, noting really new but I just thought I'd post up what needs to be done to this thing first:

-tires (found some online, 5" tread width, $55 each, we need 5)

-Brakes- We don't know their condition, maybe decent, maybe not. But we are gonna fill the system back up (reservoir is bone dry), then pull the wheels and drums off, and see whats going on. After that, we assess the condition of the other braking components and replace as needed. If the fronts are bad enough, we will do a front disc conversion right away (found some decent ones for around $200 whole front kit).

-Engine. Don't know if it runs. Again it was "rebuilt" over 6 years ago, driven a couple times then sat in the garage since then.

After the car is running good and reliable, I'll probably replace alot of the front end linkage componants and busings/ ball joints etc...

THEN-

-Freshen up the engne bay, probably get a nice filter on the current 1 barrel single carb, tune up, probably ditch the points ignition and do an electronic conversion. Possibly a better oil cooling fan. Definitely a nice dual exhaust, but I don't know which one, there are some really coo ones out there, and they're pretty cheap for the whole system, but I want the best power out of it.

-Take Snoop Dogg's advice and "Drop it like its hot." Probably do about 2" all around, maybe 2.5" or 3" front and 2" rear, give it a nice rake, good for weight transfer. I can't drop the rear too much because some exhaust systems need alot of clearance under the car, and I plan on driving this at places that may have speed bumps. Stiffer sway bars, and maybe stiff as hell rear torsion bars (yea, I found brand new performance torsion bars for bugs, again, gatta do more research on how to install them so I can get my desired ride height)

-Misc exterior stuffs. I found clear turn signal lenses, and slick looking tail lights (beehive style in a clear/red/clear lens configuration). And I wanna convince my fiance to let me put T-bar brackets on the front and ditch that big ass ugly bumper

The above stuff is in no real order, just categorized. But what I'm gonna do it in stages- a little bit at a time in each category. I'll post pics later of some exhaust possibilities, and some of the exterior stuff.


...oh yea I don't think so. (http://www.airkewld.com)
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 10:05:42 PM / 23-Sep-07
Got nothing to do right now so...

Exhaust system choices:

(http://content.madirect.com/img300/309415.jpg)
BUGPACK Dual Quietpack exhaust (Also comes in single that just goes off to the right) $179.99

(http://content.mamotorworks.com/img300/fr4828.jpg)
Street Tube System (I think its made by Mid America Motorsports) Comes in the chrome tips for $199.99 or black $179.99

(http://content.mamotorworks.com/img300/fr4829.jpg)
Euro Tuck system exhaust $149.99

(http://content.mamotorworks.com/img300/fr4879.jpg)
GT Style System exhaust $74.99



These are the beehive tails I want to get and install, pretty slick, and alot less of an eyesore:
(http://content.madirect.com/img300/313073.jpg)

There is misc. other stuff that will just be posted up when we put it on and whatnot.
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: firestarter on 10:20:13 PM / 23-Sep-07
If you need any advice on aircooled vw's feel free to ask, I am a huge vw junkie!! Here is my 63

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/firestartergli/Picture029.jpg)
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 10:32:21 PM / 23-Sep-07
One of my big questions is how wide of a tire can I put in the rear?

I was thinking I might be able to do a 15x7 in the back, then how wide of a tire? 225, 235, more? 55 series profile?
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: firestarter on 07:51:24 PM / 24-Sep-07
Quote from: Nemisis
One of my big questions is how wide of a tire can I put in the rear?

I was thinking I might be able to do a 15x7 in the back, then how wide of a tire? 225, 235, more? 55 series profile?



I am running a 195/65r15 on a widened steelie to 6.5". and My car is dumped and no rubbing issues, you should be able to get a 225 in there without a single issue!
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 10:13:52 PM / 24-Sep-07
Sweet. I might invest in one of those wheel/tire gauges. Ya know, the ones you bolt on in place of your wheel and you fumble around with it and it will tell you the biggest combo...

Probably will run with stock rims and tires for a bit, then I'm thinkin I might try to get a set of these (If my wife-to-be likes/ approves of them enough):
(http://www.pacificcustoms.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/whl4lc_2.jpg)
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 07:30:43 PM / 17-Jan-08
Okay, small update.

The Bug is no longer sitting on the lawn in those pics (that is at my girl's place).

Risking life and limb, it was trailered (on a trailer that was barely big enough- the rear bumper was hanging over the back!) to my place, where I sacrificed my garage parking spot in order to have a good place to work on it(I live with my parents and we have a 4 car attached garage, one stall is for my mom, one for my dad, one for my dad's project truck, and one for me).

Thus far I have not done much, but I promise to get pics.

One of the main things that I found out, is that the engine turns freely with minimal effort. I just took a big ass adjustable wrench on the crank and used little muscle power to turn it over, and I heard no squealing or funny noises. Not bad for 6 years.

The to do list:
-New battery (the one in the car was so bad it wouldn't take a charge from a big shop charger)
-Drain the gas (6 year old gas can't be good for anything...)
-Oil change (has oil in it, but again, 6 years...)
-Tune up (one of the first things you do on any used car. DUH! I might get a better coil while I'm at it- Blaster 2 or something)
-Clean Carburator (probably has built up gunk in it, so I'm gonna take the top off of it and wipe it out. 34mm single-barrel is TINY!!!
-Replace vacuum lines and do some re-wiring (vacuum lines are junk, and whoever had their fingers in this thing before me used duct tape to cover splices and sever connections. I'll take pics of this, its pretty fucked up. There is a wire that was cut, and the bare ends have duct tape over them... I don't even know what this wire goes to!!)

I already popped the carb, and I now have good access to the wiring, so I'm gonna try to take care of those things tomorrow, and then most everything else this weekend. Hopefully I won't have to order too many things...
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: DerMetzger on 10:49:04 PM / 17-Jan-08
You could probably tow that bug on a lawnmower trailer without too much incident.

Good luck on that project man, let see some pics!

Edit: Hey, post no. 100! Whoo!
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Julie on 11:39:18 PM / 17-Jan-08
one of my close friends dad has a '70 karmann ghia convertable. super sexy VW.

these wheels would look good on a bug though, Empi 8 spokes

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/juliebriggs/Car%20Pics/ef64d38f.jpg)
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: fixitman04 on 12:09:00 AM / 18-Jan-08
the 356 4 cyl is a direct bolt in , much better engine as well as a 5spd
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 08:34:10 PM / 23-Jan-08
Quote from: fixitman04
the 356 4 cyl is a direct bolt in , much better engine as well as a 5spd
Hmm??? Porsche engine? Anyway, I just need to get this one running and drivable, then I know where 2 air cooled VW motors are just laying around... So I could probably pick up one uber cheap. Then I'd slap bored out cylinders on it (biggest displacement non-stoked is 1900cc) and a bunch of other things... But lately I've been toying with the idea of going all out motor before I turbo it (Biggest bore and stoke combo puts the motor just a couple of cc's over 2900... thats a monster 4 cyl!!)


But I gatta budget my stuff see what I can afford. Most likely it will only be bored, and not stroked, then turbo'd.


BTW Julie: Ghias are slick as hell, and lower to the ground than anything I've ever sat in. But those EMPI 8 spokes are not all they're cracked up to be. People don't like them cuz they have a horrid offset. You need to run pretty thick spacers just to fit them. And personally, I'm not too fond of those wheels.







These, however...
(http://content.mamotorworks.com/img300/fr4737.jpg)
Replica Porsche 914 style VW wheels
(http://content.mamotorworks.com/img300/fr4753.jpg)
Riviera style
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 09:41:16 PM / 17-Feb-08
Small tid-bit:

I talked with Panda (panda s12), who now lives closer to me and should be available for spring MidweS12 meet, has a shitty Porsche 914 (or I think he has it, but its not really worth a fixer-upper)...


Sooo, I will probably snag the wheels off that because they fit the bug and are pretty slick (they are like the silver and black ones in my previous post, but the real Porsche ones are all silver).

Pic from the net (should be the same as these):
(http://www.wheelcollision.com/wccpix/67136.JPG)
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 09:24:20 PM / 25-Apr-08
~~~~UPDATE!!!~~~~

The lawnmower on steroids... I mean, the bug, RUNS!!!!! The carb needs some work because the electric choke isn't working, some internal seals may be leaking, and the throttle cable seems to be too short or something. When I hook up the throttle cable, it holds the throttle plate open a bit an wont let in close (unless you force it closed, but it wont stay).

So yea, it really does sound like a lawnmower. Now I need to find tires for it (165/80 15 OR 175/70 15 are not easy to come by. Can't be any wider because it is a 4.5" rim!!!) and give the brakes a little freshening up (plenty of meat left, just dirty and a little rusty. Needs alot of fluid because the reservoir is bone dry) Then it can be driven!


Sooooooo close!
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: seishuku on 07:34:08 PM / 27-Apr-08
When you get it running good, we gotta do another meet!
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 04:07:42 PM / 29-Apr-08
Quote from: seishuku
When you get it running good, we gotta do another meet!
We might have one next month (May), because club FR supposedly is having some drift days at the Milwaukee Mile. I keep forgetting the days, but I'll do some searching.

So watch the Meetings forum and I'll probably give everyone a call at the end of the week (working 12hrs a day is a bitch, so I have off this Fri and I'll start organizing).
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: seishuku on 05:09:55 PM / 29-Apr-08
Coo.
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 12:13:03 PM / 09-May-08
So I'm gonna get around to doing the rear brakes this weekend, and the fronts later. The trailing shoe on the RR broke... The friction material FELL OFF the actual shoe while my dad was pounding on the adjustment thingy on the bottom. And right before that we found that one of the boots on the wheel cylinder (same wheel now) leaks, so I can't step on the brakes. So I got 2 new rear wheel cylinders, and a set of shoes so I can tackle this tomorrow. Fronts will be addressed shortly after.


After that all this baby needs is some new tires and she is road-worthy!!!

Still need to get new running boards though, but thats one of few cosmetic repairs that it needs.
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: VG30_S12 on 01:43:32 PM / 09-May-08
nice buggy man, ive always wanted one that wasnt rusted to the ground and not cost me an arm+leg... from what ive heard, those blocks can be made to push some boost... i've "heard" of 1000hp setups, but may i make a sugguestion for when the boxer dies?

Mazda 13B FTMFW!!!

keep us updated...

also, firestarter, is your 63' rear suspension broken or what lol jk
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 03:03:06 PM / 09-May-08
Quote from: VG30_S12
nice buggy man, ive always wanted one that wasnt rusted to the ground and not cost me an arm+leg... from what ive heard, those blocks can be made to push some boost... i've "heard" of 1000hp setups, but may i make a sugguestion for when the boxer dies?

Mazda 13B FTMFW!!!

keep us updated...

also, firestarter, is your 63' rear suspension broken or what lol jk

The VW air-cooled boxer 4 never dies. They just get rebuilt  No seriously, ANYTHING that you could ever break on one can be replaced. When you want to go for a displacement upgrade,  you just buy a kit. The cylinders are removable. You just unbolt the head and slide the cylinders off. Get the block and heads re-bored to match the new cylinders, put the larger pistons on, slide on the new cylinders and bolt the head back on. I have heard that these engines are the easiest to work on and re-build.

Oh yea, as far as 1000hp- Why would you need that much? a built 2L motor with a good turbo setup (T04 or similar) can kiss around 400hp and depending on how much you have lightened the car (and what trans you use), you can see 10's easy, probably quicker. But then at that point you are just waiting for something to break. Just find an old episode of Pinks- Bug vs CRX. That thing was faaaaasst!!!!

After everything is sorted out, I'm gonna try to get an exhaust, and some nice dress-up stuff (clear turn signal lenses, bee-hive tails and a few other things) Maybe if I can find a Bus motor (2L dual single carbs- good power increase over 1600cc)

Oh yea, leep checking back- there WILL be a video of me driving it out of the garage when the brakes are fixed.
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 12:03:09 PM / 11-May-08
GRRRRR!!!! I need to adjust the clutch, it won't go into gear. (cable operated clutch) Other than that, its pretty damn close. Turns out I'm gonna need new brake drums because these are past their limit (inside diameter maximum is 9.114" and they are at about 9.125 now).

So, now I need 2 front wheel cylinders, front shoes, and all 4 drums... Shit, drums were like $45 when I checked... Might have to do some more looking.


Still need f***ing tires!!
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 05:51:10 PM / 19-May-08
Clutch fixed. Turns out that the clutch disc and flywheel may have been fused together... Don't really know for sure, but what we did was jack the rear up, run it in 1st gear with the clutch in (because when it broke free it would then be out of gear), then slam on the brakes and hope that everything brakes loose. Well it did. We re-adjusted the clutch and let the car down, and off I went.

Lots of air in the brake lines so I needed to pump them in order to stop, but I was able to shift up to 3rd, then back down and I heard nothing abnormal.
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 02:50:19 AM / 03-Jun-08
Tire rack tires (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?width=165%2F&ratio=80&diameter=15&startIndex=0&search=true&pagelen=20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1&x=69&y=9&RunFlat=All)
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 06:43:30 PM / 04-Jun-08
Quote from: 200sxkitcar
Tire rack tires (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?width=165%2F&ratio=80&diameter=15&startIndex=0&search=true&pagelen=20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1&x=69&y=9&RunFlat=All)


BACK ORDERED!!!! Have been for the last couple months.

Sunday I'm goin to Kyle's place then to where the Porsche 914 junker is to take those wheels. They are 15x5.5 - 195/60's here I come!!! They will look like faaaaat meats on this tiny bug!
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 07:04:26 PM / 04-Jun-08
Ahh, thats good, as those stock tire sizes are pretty shitty.
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: panda s12 on 09:33:19 PM / 04-Jun-08
they look different than the ones you posted a pic im pretty sure from what i here there 1 offs you will be the only person with these wheels i might get them off tomarow
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: panda s12 on 09:51:09 PM / 04-Jun-08
these are the exact wheels but diff center caps http://dallas.craigslist.org/pts/701316643.html (http://dallas.craigslist.org/pts/701316643.html)
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Nemisis on 07:16:09 PM / 09-Jun-08
Damn this car is gonna be sweet. Gotta find some good lug bolts though, those wheels do no use the standard "acorn" style. They use flat ones that are very prone to snapping when torqued incorrectly. I'm thinking I'll find the best replacement ones I can, then once I have the car in better shape, I will have the holes machined to match the acorn style bolts for better safety.
Title: The New Nemesis Project
Post by: Xano on 04:05:46 AM / 28-Aug-08
Quote from: Nemisis
Damn this car is gonna be sweet. Gotta find some good lug bolts though, those wheels do no use the standard "acorn" style. They use flat ones that are very prone to snapping when torqued incorrectly. I'm thinking I'll find the best replacement ones I can, then once I have the car in better shape, I will have the holes machined to match the acorn style bolts for better safety.
so yeah, hows the updates? havent heard anything about this damn bugly in a while.