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Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 08:00:10 PM / 16-Jan-10
New Club-S12 decals are now available!


In your choice of white, black, red, and silver,

Small window/body decal:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/arrospeed/Decal-small_02.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/arrospeed/Decal-small_01.jpg)

Window banner:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/arrospeed/Decal-windshield.jpg)

Small decal is 10" long, and fits comfortably in the side rear windows of a notchback, or on any other body or glass surface of your choice.

Window banners are designed in three types -- one for windshields (40", curved), one for hatch glass (40", straight), and one for notch glass (36", slightly-curved). The one pictured on the windshield is not curved, the actual windshield banner is curved to fit the contours of the S12 windshield.

Banners are $25 and $5 shipping, and 10" decals are $15 plus $2 shipping. I'll be placing them in sturdy envelopes, not just in paper ones.

Payment can be made to the same Paypal address as the one for the calendars.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Phisherman09 on 08:08:21 PM / 16-Jan-10
sweet. placing order now. should we just put the color/decal we want in the paypal info?
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: DjayS12 on 08:35:53 PM / 16-Jan-10
I'm checking my local regulation to make sure the windshield banner isn't too tall and buy one.. or not depending of the regulation!
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: sam31183 on 03:20:07 PM / 17-Jan-10
because of the windshields curve the windshield decals will be more difficult to put on...a good way to get them straight is to take some painters tape and break it off into small pieces, then measure down from the top of the windshield in several places as far down as you want the decal to go. I would recommend measuring the total height of the sticker and then adding like 1/2 inch or however far you want it down from the top of the windshield. Also, a good way to apply vinyl to glass is to clean the surface well with soap/water, i would recommend a spray bottle/towel. Once the surface is clean peal the white backing off the decal and then spray the sticky side of the decal down with soap/water, this will make it so you can slide the decal around a bit so you can get in the position you want it. After this squeegee The decal/backing tape down. Once the backing tape/decal has been squeegeed down spray soap/water on top of the tape and squeegee it again. This makes it easier to get the tape off. I would also recommend leaving the tape on for awhile after you squeegee it the last time so the decal has time to adhere to the windshield. The colder outside the longer i would leave it.

sorry for the long post, but i thought it was useful information. I have been doing vinyl on different surfaces for awhile now so i have a vague idea of how to do it:p
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 04:44:57 PM / 17-Jan-10
It's useful information... I'm actually going to make a visual how-to, when I find a ginnea pig for the next windshield banner.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Grant on 01:26:08 AM / 18-Jan-10
I'll def want one as soon as the first or second paycheck from the new job comes in. Where do I find the paypal info for the whole transaction? I've never made a payment here before so I don't know how it works. I do have a paypal accoint, so one set out of the way.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: zilvia_brothers on 03:57:01 AM / 18-Jan-10
Hey Jason. Will the aide window decal come in a set of 2, for driver and passenger side? And also for the colors is it possivble to get the colors like the one on the website?
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Wolf Dilworth on 11:20:05 AM / 18-Jan-10
Quote from: zilvia_brothers
Hey Jason. Will the aide window decal come in a set of 2, for driver and passenger side? And also for the colors is it possivble to get the colors like the one on the website?

Can you get the side stickers cut in "reverse" so they can be applied to the inside of the side glass?

Wolf
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: a tin pan alley on 12:07:46 PM / 18-Jan-10
Quote from: Wolf Dilworth
Can you get the side stickers cut in "reverse" so they can be applied to the inside of the side glass?

Wolf

+1
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 12:56:26 PM / 18-Jan-10
Quote from: zilvia_brothers
Hey Jason. Will the aide window decal come in a set of 2, for driver and passenger side? And also for the colors is it possivble to get the colors like the one on the website?

No, if you want two, you gotta buy two like I did

Quote from: Wolf Dilworth
Can you get the side stickers cut in "reverse" so they can be applied to the inside of the side glass?

Wolf

No, these are vinyl decals, they are perfectly safe and secure on the outside. I've had one on my 2G Neon for almost 4 years now, and washed it with every manner of automatic wash, as well as hand-scrub... left it sitting out in the sun for an entire summer, etc... and it still isn't faded, cracked, or missing any letters or parts.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/arrospeed/Neon/overcast_02.jpg)

These are industrial-strength vinyl decals used on 18-wheeler trucks and such and take abuse.

IF you wanted a reverse-image decal, I might be able to do it but there would be extra cost incurred to the sign shop and thus to me. And thus, to you. I don't really think it's necessary.

Quote from: Grant
I'll def want one as soon as the first or second paycheck from the new job comes in. Where do I find the paypal info for the whole transaction? I've never made a payment here before so I don't know how it works. I do have a paypal accoint, so one set out of the way.

There isn't a page yet (maybe today there will be) but you can use the same info as the calendar purchasing and instead, just specify which decal you want, and what color, and then pay for it. If you don't pay the right amount for the one you want, I'll figure it out and let you know.

I'll be going to the decal shop TOMORROW to try to get them cut, so if you guys want them, ORDER BY TODAY. After that, I'll probably be moving so I won't be able to furnish any until I'm settled in.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: cls12vg30 on 01:15:18 PM / 18-Jan-10
If these are the same material as the old decals, they will stand up to any type of washing.  I've had them on for about 4 or 5 years.  If you live somewhere up north where ice scraping is a common activity, make sure you place the decal in some place where you won't scrape, like the bottom of the rear windows.  No decal is gonna stand up to ice scrapers for long, so just scrape around it.  Or move south.  Whatever.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: David B on 02:45:48 PM / 18-Jan-10
is that all one big banner? i want just the right side lol
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 04:59:11 PM / 18-Jan-10
UPDATE:

I wasn't able to package the banners in envelopes, due to the size of the logo on the end of the banner (can't fold it at points small enough for an envelope) so I will be charging more for a banner. Some of you have paid for one already, if it's only a bit more I'll just eat the cost, if it's more than that, I'll tell you and give you the choice of refund or pay the difference.

Basically for the banner, I will be trying to ship them in a 6 x 4 x 3" box, rolled up. It's the best I can do.

The Post Office was closed today, but tomorrow I will find out. Also tomorrow the first batch of calendars will ship out to those of you who bought them.

Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 01:20:00 PM / 19-Jan-10
All decals are shipping out TODAY.

If you order 10" decals, the shipping is cheaper, but the windshield and rear glass banners must be shipped in small boxes to keep them safe:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/arrospeed/decal_box.png)

As I said, I am going to find out what the cost will be... if it's a bit more, those of you who ordered banners do not need to worry, I will eat the few bucks. If it's notably more, I will send you out a request for the difference.

You will need to use masking tape to secure them in position so as to line them up, then leave one end taped to peel and apply. IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS, YOU CAN DAMAGE OR INCORRECTLY APPLY THE DECAL.

I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR POOR OR IMPROPER INSTALLATION AND WILL NOT GIVE YOU A SECOND ONE FREE. You mess it up, you'll have to buy another one.

I figure most (all?) of you are capable of applying them correctly, but it was pointed out to me by the shop to make the above disclaimer.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: sam31183 on 03:06:49 PM / 19-Jan-10
if your careful you can peel the backing and then spray the sticky side of the sticker down and be able to move it around as much as you want before the water dries...

Also, i was going to say, even though the vinyl should be able to hold up no problem on the outside of the window it should be pretty easy for them to mirror the image in the program and cut them out that way...would only take like 20 seconds or less depending on how old there program/computer is. If your only having these made in like batches of 20 or something it shouldnt be an issue for them to do this.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 04:05:11 PM / 19-Jan-10
Except that... to make a batch of inversed decals is very costly for me. One person might buy it, maybe two or three, but that's it. And they aren't cheap. So I'd be sitting on inventory I shelled out a decent sum for. I'm not a business so I can't afford lots of inventory or overhead.

I don't recommend using water. In fact, make sure the glass is cleaned first (409 glass cleaner, windex, etc), and dry.

Basic instructions for ALL decals are as follows:

1. Clean the surface you are going apply the decal do. Use 409 Glass Cleaner, or Windex, or similar glass cleaner. Take a piece of masking tape and see if it sticks. If you can move the tape around, your surface isn't clean enough, and you need to go over it again. Those of you who use Rain-X will probably need to clean a lot more thoroughly.

2. Spread out the decal where you want it. In the case of banner decals, fold the decal in half and crease the top corner. That way you have a middle to line up with. Place decal where you want it, and use pieces of masking tape to hold it.

3. On one end, tape the entire end to the glass.

4. After you get it where you want it, peel off the smaller pieces of tape, and pull the decal back away from the window... leaving it only attached at the one end with tape.

5. Peel off the underside backing, starting from the taped end first.

6. Apply the decal using a flat tool to press it down. Once down, smooth it out with your hand or a tool as best as you can.

7. Peel off the wax over backing by pulling it towards the taped end. If you don't pull it in the direction of the taped end, some of the decal might not stay on the window.

And that's it.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: nismologist on 04:24:47 PM / 19-Jan-10
how much would a decal shop usually charge for such things? no more than maybe 20 bucks?
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Phisherman09 on 04:35:32 PM / 19-Jan-10
sweet so these shipped today too? gonna be like a club-s12 orgy on my doorstep in a couple days then.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 04:37:22 PM / 19-Jan-10
Trust me, I went through not one, but three decal guys before sorting it all out right with this fourth dude. He does a good job. I save on the cost of the decals by getting a group at a time. He isn't using the cheaper vinyl, he's using the industrial stuff so it's expensive. Also, he says most of the cost comes from the labor. He has to hand-pick out the excess pieces. I asked him how they do it in big factories and he said, "they hire lots of people to pick like I'm doing it." Anyways he has a nice shop, good-sized, and he makes all sorts of decals, banners, signs, etc. I got a winner here. But believe me the cost is modest.

Making these things isn't cheap. I don't make anything off of them. And as it is I have to buy the boxes for the banners.

Reversing it is easy on his computer. But printing them one-off or even two-off isn't cheap. I can't justify it without someone paying me a lot more.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: sam31183 on 05:24:41 PM / 19-Jan-10
it is really easy to eff up putting a decal on the way you said...i have done it many times the way i said without any issues...and i do it the same way on many surfaces...the worse surface to apply to though is glass, then on top of vinyl, then metal signs, and then painted wood...if the temp is right  you can actually get away without using water on the back...but you have to be careful. I did two painted signs yesterday but i still sprayed the backs down with water because they are so much easier to apply this way because you can move them around as much as you like and then just squeegee it down.

I get what your saying about having to get a big batch of people wanting the mirrored...you try to fill up the available space you have as much as you can so you dont waste any vinyl. And then the weeding process is a pain in the ass as well...especially if the blade in the plotter is old and tired.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 05:46:10 PM / 19-Jan-10
How can it fuck up a decal the way I describe it? When you peel the backing off, you smooth it out from the taped end on down to the other end. When you remove the wax backing, you peel at a severe angle to let the letters stay on the window, not enough angle and they could stay on the backing. The guy showed me both results.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: sam31183 on 05:50:26 PM / 19-Jan-10
hmmm...maybe i misunderstood how you said it the first time...it sounds like it would be really easy to do it that way if you didnt have any wind or had two people...one to squeegee down and one to peel from the bottom....most of the time when i put decals on a vehicle it is outside in the rain and wind...because the sign/sheetmetal shop doesnt have enough room to bring vehicles inside. The way i said was how i was shown though and it is the easiest way i have found to apply vinyls.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 06:56:30 PM / 19-Jan-10
Yeah wind can be a factor... and yep it helps to have a buddy if it's windy. Try to do them inside if possible, of course.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: sam31183 on 07:11:56 PM / 19-Jan-10
trust me though, the spray bottle method works every time. btw here is a sign i made yesterday...i thought i would post it just so you could see what kind of stuff i have been working with.

(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/151/l_1a35be6cd9a341bebc61f880cd115c0e.jpg)
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Wolf Dilworth on 09:57:21 PM / 19-Jan-10
Quote from: Arro
Trust me, I went through not one, but three decal guys before sorting it all out right with this fourth dude. He does a good job. I save on the cost of the decals by getting a group at a time. He isn't using the cheaper vinyl, he's using the industrial stuff so it's expensive. Also, he says most of the cost comes from the labor. He has to hand-pick out the excess pieces. I asked him how they do it in big factories and he said, "they hire lots of people to pick like I'm doing it." Anyways he has a nice shop, good-sized, and he makes all sorts of decals, banners, signs, etc. I got a winner here. But believe me the cost is modest.

Making these things isn't cheap. I don't make anything off of them. And as it is I have to buy the boxes for the banners.

Reversing it is easy on his computer. But printing them one-off or even two-off isn't cheap. I can't justify it without someone paying me a lot more.

Hey Arro

I am not trying to step on yer junk or anything, but I have a friend that has a laser cutting set-up and if I can get a good enough price I would like to have him cut some decals reversed.

Can you share the vector art? or what ever format you are using?  If you are willing to share let me know what the format is so I can consult with Ed (my buddy).  I may be able to get a real good rate if you are interested in a future run.

I trust the longevity of the vinyl and all, I just don't like stickers on the outside so much.  The cleaner, appearance wise, the glass is on the outside the better.  Just me being picky. <G>

Peace, Wolf
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 10:04:42 PM / 19-Jan-10
Sorry, I don't release templates to anyone as a matter of practice. And I won't be customizing any decals. I am always open to suggestions, but in the case of the decals, I won't make anything that I can't produce in quantities with the expectation that people will buy them.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Phisherman09 on 07:38:20 PM / 22-Jan-10
got mine today. Awesome quality, now just gotta wait for it to stop snowing so i can put them on.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 12:57:16 PM / 25-Jan-10
Be sure to post pics HERE
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: demonic s12 on 02:51:43 PM / 25-Jan-10
Quote from: Arro
Be sure to post pics HERE  

large decals you can either float with a soapy water mix, then squeegee it out, or you can roll up the decal and release it onto the surface gradually.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: sam31183 on 03:11:15 PM / 25-Jan-10
it is easier with water...believe me, i do this for work.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: zastaba on 03:31:46 PM / 25-Jan-10

Sorry if I just missed this:

"...and 10" decals are $15 plus $2 shipping."

Is this for just one 10" decal or one for each side?
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: demonic s12 on 03:35:28 PM / 25-Jan-10
Quote from: sam31183
it is easier with water...believe me, i do this for work.

i know. i watch the clear bra guy do it every day
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Draconis on 03:41:36 PM / 25-Jan-10
I agree with Andrew and Sam.  The water/soapy water way with squeegee thing is the best method. I have done this several times to my car personally, banner stickers and smaller stickers and it is the best method I've known.  First because it's easier to put on but also, since you have a little bit of soapy water between the glass and the decal, you can adjust the position slightly if needs be without worrying.  Then just squeegee the moisture away and with a microfibre towel or something, take care of the excess liquid and stuff.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: demonic s12 on 03:43:02 PM / 25-Jan-10
not to mention it almost eliminates the appearance of bubbles
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: sam31183 on 05:51:52 PM / 25-Jan-10
the thing i dont understand is how people do full vehicle wraps without screwing up....do any of you guys remember angry earls fc pick up? That was a full metallic/reflective red vehicle wrap...and i cant see any seams on it...I hope he is at gg this year, i want to get a closer look at it.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Draconis on 06:24:22 PM / 25-Jan-10
Yeah and I have never been a fan of his styling but he sure can drive that thing.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 07:15:53 PM / 25-Jan-10
Quote from: zastaba
Sorry if I just missed this:

"...and 10" decals are $15 plus $2 shipping."

Is this for just one 10" decal or one for each side?

See post #10 on Page 1.
Title: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: zastaba on 11:27:59 PM / 25-Jan-10

Ah yes - my bad!    I skimmed and didn't see it the first time! I will be putting in an order in the near future - thanks!
Title: Re: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Turk66 on 06:31:30 PM / 26-Sep-10
Are the small ones still for sale?
Title: Re: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 07:26:58 PM / 26-Sep-10
Always, PM me for ordering.
Title: Re: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Turk66 on 01:51:01 PM / 03-Oct-10
k will do, gotta get more cash to finish up my s12!
Title: Re: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Willie berwick on 12:58:29 PM / 23-Jan-12
Hey man I was worndering how much a side window decal would be and how i could get one
Title: Re: New-generation Club Decals Are Now Available!
Post by: Arro on 03:11:48 PM / 23-Jan-12
Prices are in the first post of page 1 of this thread.