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Title: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 01:03:43 AM / 27-Oct-12
Well, this crazy ride all started with my love affair with the Mitsubishi Starion.  I was partial to the 86 - 89 models.  I knew I wanted a turbo car and I liked the idea of the wide body with OEM staggered wheels.  I searched for a whole year and couldnt find a diamond star that wasn't rusted out or SEVERELY over priced.  At the time though, I was a line tech at a certain crapy ass Nissan dealership with very little work and a lot of time on my hands. It was one of those days when it cost me more to show up to work than the hours I was turning I got in a older pathfinder that had a problem that my consult could'nt help me with so I had to go upstairs in the storage room to find the SM.  While looking around in all the dust and spider webs I ran across the SM  for the '87 200sx!  I thought to myself "hey my buddy from my old neighborhood had one of those" .  He was sick alot and I think he had Sickle Cell.  His Mom bought him a brand new '88 SE!  I remember when he first got it.  I thought it was the coolest thing I had ever seen.  I mean come on, what else back then had smokin ass body kit like the SE? Okay maybe the SHiro Special Z but the 12 was different...unique even. We went everywhere in that thing!  Can you imagine a couple of 18 year olds rollin' around Queens NY in a spankin' new SE!  So I started to do some research and found Club-S12.  I could'nt stop lurking in here! Then I thought man this would be a cool car to have.  A guy that worked in the bay next to me had a 240 with a SR swap.  What a cocky SB!  I said there's no way I'm gonna get a s13.  Everybody was on the 240/SR swap bandwagon and I'm just not one of those guys who likes to do what everyone else is doing.  So the hunt for a s12 was in high gear.  I searched the net and local adds for 6 months and all I could find was rustbuckets and shitboxes!  Here we go again!  I was about to give in and started looking at fox body Mustangs!!! Yup, that was until I realized why I don't get along with too many muscle car guys.  I won't elaberate on that as I work with them all day long and besides, not ALL of them are bad guys.  Anyway, I took a break on looking for a car for a while.  Then I was messing around on ebay motors and there it was!  The cleanest 12 I had seen thus far!  She had all the options I wanted AND it was a turbo car!!!!!!  I bought my 12 in January of '09 and the rest.....well, the rest I plan on posting it all right here with lots of pics in the coming weeks updating whenever I can so stay tuned!  I can already tell it's gonna be a sick ride!  I say that figuratively and literally!  8Six out...for now.
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Post by: Johnny_boi on 01:27:45 AM / 27-Oct-12
Pics please :)
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 06:50:24 PM / 30-Oct-12
Let's get it started.  First here's a look at the car.  Here she is right after she rolled off the transporter from Cali.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/craigslistphotos034.jpg)
I know it's blury, but this was pre-iphone so the quality on my old celli was poor to say the least.
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(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/200afterbath004.jpg)
After her first bath.....And no, I did not use Armor all on the tires.  That stuff is terrible. 
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(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/200afterbath007.jpg)
First Engine bay pic...notice the mis-matched plug wires.   :woow:
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P Bucket isn't cooperating with me right now so I'll have to post more pics later.
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Post by: turbo-s12 on 11:48:41 PM / 30-Oct-12
nice car looks pretty clean
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Post by: silverton on 01:21:36 AM / 31-Oct-12
Very nice find!  Good luck with her.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:47:54 PM / 31-Oct-12
Now you know what the car looks like, now it's time to let you in on my plans.  Initially, the plan was to swap in a KA24DE but that's just blasphemy!  After all this twelve is an original turbo car so it's gotta have a hair dryer hung on the engine.  So I started researching KA-Ts.  After about a year of research, gathering parts and lot's of planning that idea went straight out the window when I saw an add on craigslist for a SR20DET that supposedly had a spun bearing.  So I contacted the guy and traveled across town to check it out with little expectation. (you'll see why in a bit) I finally make it to this guys friend's house who also had an eclipse project car in the same garage where the engine was sitting on an old tire.  I said to myself "what a colossal waste of time this is gonna be".  So I took a look at it anyway since I traveled all this way.  So I ask if I can take off the valve cover....not bad.  Looks like a motor to me.  Then we flip the motor on it's side so I can take off the lower oil pan and inside was a goey milky mess.  A blown head gasket perhaps?  I turned the motor and it spun okay with no interference. I didn't know for sure so I tell the guy never mind, not interested.  I told him, for $600 it wasn't worth my time or money.  As I started to get back in my truck, the guys says "wait make me an offer" so I said the first thing that came to mind and offered him $300.  He took it! And before he could change his mind it was strapped on the back of lil' man ready to go home. (that's a nickname my brother in law gave my 94' Toyota P/U)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_2459.jpg)
This is what it looked like when I got it home....damn what the hell is up with that color scheme man?
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It was pretty beat and missing a lot of odds and ends but the bones were good....couldn't beat it for 300 funtickets!  I figured even if it was toast on the inside I could part it out and recoup my funds.
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nice car looks pretty clean

Thanks!
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Very nice find!  Good luck with her.

'preciate it!
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 10:23:39 PM / 31-Oct-12
nice clean as fuck!
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Post by: turbo-s12 on 11:30:16 PM / 31-Oct-12
looks like reds car....sr will be a nice addition :)
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Post by: rednucleus on 12:42:08 AM / 01-Nov-12
looks like reds car....sr will be a nice addition :)
lol didn't notice that - must be cuz it's a turbo and has real paint on the hood!
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:57:35 AM / 01-Nov-12
Thanks guys but there's not much real paint left on my hood. It's pretty much faded as a mofo.
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Post by: Arro on 10:26:19 AM / 01-Nov-12
I'm liking the green n' blue theme on the engine.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 03:23:52 PM / 01-Nov-12
Haha What's up Arro?  Sorry bro but the green n blue is long gone.  I just couldn't stand it anymore.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:15:37 PM / 03-Nov-12
Let's back track a little:  The 12 was driven for two years on the CA18ET and I have to say it's not a terrible motor.  The turbo lasted about 8 months so I swapped it out for a ebay unit I got off a guy for like $70.  I almost lasted long enough to pass emissions but, the oil inlet line I had rigged up had fallen on the manifold and spewed oil all over the dyno.  I decided to stop being cheap and bought a brand new s15BB turbo when I was working at Nissan.  It worked great but was obviously too much turbo fo the 18ET. 

Note the size differences: S15BB on the left compared to the ebay t25 on the right 
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/T28bbvst25.jpg)

The only other major problems I had with it was the alternator and starter which are wear items.  There was an oil leak I had tracked to the oil pan so I replaced the gasket.  So no leaks for about three months and then another one started.  It ended up being the front seal and I just wasn't tring to deal with it.  Soon after that I just got tired of putting "band-aids " on it.  I left the 12 alone and started researching the KA24DE-T.  You already know the how that ended up.
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So back to the present....

This thing was dirty as hell!  I started ripping off accessories and what not.  I took the motor to the local coin spot for a pressure wash.

Before:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/049.jpg)

After:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/050.jpg)

I ran short on time so I could'nt really scrub it like I wanted to.  I just wanted to get the major grit off the motor before I tore it down.

Here it is once I got it on the engine stand
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/051.jpg)
Title: Re: My Build Story...The Twelve finally gets some Luv!
Post by: Jeremy A on 07:38:31 PM / 03-Nov-12
I almost lasted long enough to pass emissions but, the oil inlet line I had rigged up had fallen on the manifold and spewed oil all over the dyno.

Dude,  thats pretty funny.


How much horsepower did your ca18et have with the ebay turbo?  Nice SR too.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The Twelve finally gets some Luv!
Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:37:14 AM / 06-Nov-12
Dude,  thats pretty funny.


How much horsepower did your ca18et have with the ebay turbo?  Nice SR too.
I wouldn't know I was at the emissions test station.  The eBay turbo was in need of a rebuild so it would'nt have lasted anyway.
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(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_2471.jpg)
I forgot to mention the lower intake was white.  Still not understanding the color combination.  :unsure:
Title: Re: My Build Story...The Twelve finally gets some Luv!
Post by: 8SixS12 on 02:59:00 PM / 07-Nov-12
First, off comes the valve cover....

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/IMG_2527.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/IMG_2530.jpg)

Doesn't look too bad...
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/IMG_2534.jpg)

The first thing I noticed is that someone has definately been in this motor before and they did a half-assed job putting it back together.   :cantlook:

Next I removed the cams and loose valvetrain parts noting their positions in the head and I got this cool little storage container from Lowes that allowed me to stand the lifters straight up so no unwanted air gets in them.  I'm still gonna bleed them before they go back in regardless.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:06:02 PM / 10-Nov-12
Now let's get the head off and see what's really going on on here:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_2602.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_2603.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_2605.jpg)
I think this thing has the wrong head gasket!  Some of the bolt holes don't even line up.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_2615.jpg)
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...And a little detonation in cylinders 1 and 3:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_2630.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_2625.jpg)

I was a little worried about the chips at the top of the cylinder walls but I guess the machine shop will let me know the good or bad news.  Looks like it's gonna need to be bored .20 over to me though.  If any more than that I will start over with a different block.
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Post by: Johnny_boi on 01:16:26 PM / 11-Nov-12
nice work
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 02:02:36 PM / 11-Nov-12
ThX Johnny.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:00:37 AM / 13-Nov-12
Okay back to inspection...Let's flip this bitch over and see what she's got!
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_2639.jpg)
Damn this guy had a thing for RTV!  The shit is all over the place.  Definitely getting rid of that pan.  That ish is toast!

Wow that doesn't look good...But no worries.  The S13 pick up is getting chucked too.  Getting one from a S14 instead.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_2640.jpg)

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Okay, now with the lower oil pan baffle removed and the upper pan off I can't see any shrapnel.  I busted the rod bolts loose and took out the pistons so I could inspect the bearings.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_2936.jpg)

I could see this thing spinning a bearing with all the milk in this motor...
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/IMG_2939.jpg)

Now it was time to get the crank out and get it to the machine shop...
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/IMG_2949.jpg)
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(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/342.jpg)
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Update...here's the motor after I picked it up from the machine shop!
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/155.jpg)
OEM valvetrain was still in great shape so no adamantium valves and retainers this time Wolverine! This won't be a high reving engine anyways so just needed new guides and a valve job...better than new!
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/165.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/156.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/164.jpg)
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Post by: Jeremy A on 12:48:38 PM / 13-Nov-12
Excellent,  SR-licious!  What did the machine work run you?
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:59:38 PM / 13-Nov-12
Here's the block back on the stand.  It had to be bored .20 over (just like I thought it would) so I'll be using 86.5mm slugs. 
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/435.jpg)
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Excellent,  SR-licious!  What did the machine work run you?

I'll give you a total when I'm done.  I'm not happy with the way the mating surface of the block is looking so I'm pretty sure I'll get it resurfaced.  Before the motor went to the machine shop, I was planning on a standard rebuild so I was just gonna throw a stock head gasket on it...now I'm not so sure.  Right now I'm right at 5 and change.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 01:57:57 PM / 14-Nov-12
Btw, the crank ended up being perfect.  Looks like it didn't have a spun bearing after all.  All they had to do was a micro polish so it will only need standard bearings.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/158.jpg)
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Post by: D-sport S12 on 05:30:37 PM / 14-Nov-12
Bonus!
Going to go with ACl bearings or whats the plan in that department?
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 07:49:07 PM / 14-Nov-12
Sup Jesse? I thought you'd chime in sooner or later. Thanks for putting me up on the S14 pickup. I had no idea it was even an option. 
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Bonus!
Going to go with ACl bearings or whats the plan in that department?
Yup, I've already got ACL race main, rod and thrust bearings.
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Post by: D-sport S12 on 02:13:02 AM / 15-Nov-12
Nice! Yea all you have to get for the s14 pickup is the proper gasket for it which is like $2
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 06:00:31 AM / 15-Nov-12
Already came with the pickup.  This one doesn't use the o-ring.
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Post by: D-sport S12 on 01:51:11 PM / 15-Nov-12
Already came with the pickup.  This one doesn't use the o-ring.

Yup that's right, I think I lost my gasket, or mine didn't come with one. I got mine a long time ago...
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:48:20 AM / 17-Nov-12
So here's a couple of teasers of what's going in the block:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_3633.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_3663.jpg)
Who came up with teasers anyway...i can't stand teaser pics so...


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Here's a shot of the 86.5mm, 8.5:1 CP pistons the machine shop attached to the OEM rods:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/185.jpg)
I didn't even know they were going to put them together but whatever.  You can also see a pack of KrammLoc wrist pin locks.  The circular locks that come with the kit work fine but I decided to get these for a little added insurance.  They have an L shaped arm that snaps into the access hole when installed so they have no chance of rotating which could potentially cause considerable engine damage.  I know it's probably overkill but I only want to do this once.
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Post by: D-sport S12 on 03:09:28 PM / 17-Nov-12
I love being able to see yourself in your pistons, it was a happy day when I got my cp s
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:28:57 PM / 17-Nov-12
Do you get much piston slap when the motor is cold?
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Post by: D-sport S12 on 05:43:37 PM / 17-Nov-12
So far, I haven't really heard any. My brother in law asked the same thing cause he has forged in his v8. Mean while I only have about 100km on my engine
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 01:59:07 PM / 21-Nov-12
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_0157.jpg)
Made a come up on a c-trans out of a 87 XE at the local Pull-a-part.
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(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_0155.jpg)
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Shifts great. But I'll inspect the gears when I do the bell housing swap. 
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 03:27:37 PM / 27-Nov-12
SR Trans when I was about to do the bellhousing swap
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/C05E6342.jpg)
Drain fluid
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_4136.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_4135.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_4134.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/IMG_4121.jpg)
The damned tail housing sealant broke loose so I had to re-seal that too.  No biggie, I wanted to inspect the gears anyways.  I didn't get a pic of that part though.
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Post by: vegasS12 on 03:52:24 PM / 27-Nov-12
I love being able to see yourself in your pistons, it was a happy day when I got my cp s
I thinks its always a great day when you get fresh new sexy pistons!

nice and great come up on that sr!
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PS: I have tomie rocker arm stoppers that came in my SR swap. I ended up buying a set of greddy's. if interested lmk..........
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:28:50 PM / 27-Nov-12
Thx Vegas.  Love your build bruh! 
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Vegas, why'd you get greddy RAS?

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Got the BH swap done but I had to pull the tranny back apart...
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/C6E2A6C0-17B1-4198-9260-50D7DAC02B79-2404-000000B8A7C8D0C2.jpg)
I forgot to put the shift forks into neutral  >:( Might as well inspect the gears....
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/9FE8315E-4F1C-4443-B354-6912B97E038F-2784-000000D1972BC965.jpg)
That's what happens when you have to stop and start and stop again.  Chaps my ass!

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Anyway, the gears all look good so back together with this ish!
Off with the new old gasket residue.  Used a scraper and fine grit wheel on my drill and all the mating surfaces for a tight seal.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/AE028200-9436-4A23-B0D0-9841D0765B56-2404-000000B9921A4B9E.jpg)
Got the damned forks in neutral...
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/1D6F257B-C520-4E9A-A8C0-DD374D4E5872-2404-000000B8E1A02019.jpg)
And back together again.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/6BB706E3-82DC-4B80-BE02-61F48926ACCF-2404-000000B9D8E3D8F2.jpg)
All done!....again
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/0024556D-33BF-4D60-BB9E-653ECABF11EF-2784-000000D18656C507.jpg)
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As most of you probably already figured out from a previous thread about the motor, I decided to change direction on my build ( The CP pistons probably gave it away ).  I was initially going to just get the head / block checked, bored and, honed.  You know the usual crap and then put it all back together with the stock gasket kit.  Then some of the muscle heads I work with started talking major $hit.  I never talk about my car to them but I just couldn't do a "stock" build anymore.  I thought to myself "these kats need a tall glass of shut up juice!"  So a friend kept eggin' me on to "build" the motor so finally, I gave in. 

His interpretion of the build was way different than mine though.  He was all about big horsepower numbers.  IMO, horespower is great but torque gets you down the road.  Yeah, I know SRs are not torque monsters by any means so my plan is to build this car with low to mid range power in mind.  This build will be all about response as apposed to high RPM horsepower and all the parts I've chosen are centered aroound that theory.
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Post by: vegasS12 on 03:34:40 PM / 28-Nov-12
No real reason I went with greddy, Honestly both look the same except one is gold and other is black. The previous owner told me it had a new nismo thermo. and Tomie RAS. I didn't believe him haha.
So I bought all new parts before I toke the SR apart since I knew I wanted a built motor.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 06:38:35 PM / 28-Nov-12
No real reason I went with greddy, Honestly both look the same except one is gold and other is black. The previous owner told me it had a new nismo thermo. and Tomie RAS. I didn't believe him haha.
So I bought all new parts before I toke the SR apart since I knew I wanted a built motor.


Ah ok, cool. I thought there was a difference I didn't know about. They all seem to be the same to me. That's why I went with Circuit sports RAS. They were considerably less than the others out there and serve the same function.  I got them for a little added security although my SR won't see much of anything above the factory rev limits.
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Post by: vegasS12 on 06:47:53 PM / 28-Nov-12
Nice yea my Sr is going to be getting a bit more beat on lol I'm building it to just go nuts and play with.  :yay!:
PS I also have a spec clutch and flywheel if needed. I can sell for a lower price if interested......
http://club-s12.org/retro4/index.php?topic=36111.0
Thats all i have to offer for sale promise lmao
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Post by: D-sport S12 on 07:26:20 PM / 28-Nov-12
And if you want to keep the little baffle on the exhaust side with the ras, you will have to dermal one corner if I remember correctly.
Are you doing cams? Right now for the brief time I drove mine it had a great mid range with stock head and a gt2871
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:42:10 PM / 29-Nov-12
And if you want to keep the little baffle on the exhaust side with the ras, you will have to dermal one corner if I remember correctly.
Are you doing cams? Right now for the brief time I drove mine it had a great mid range with stock head and a gt2871
Yeah, I've seen it done before and yeah I'm doing mild cams.
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And speaking of cams...
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/BAF84405-4ED9-4812-A338-483B7782AAAA-5250-0000018AE7082DD9.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/635A258E-BF01-4251-A28C-D23D89ED5C61-5250-0000018B0841A1CD.jpg)
Crower stage 1 cams FYA!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:32:30 AM / 01-Dec-12
Block back from the machine shop...again.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/92110335-1C51-4B24-A283-1E69C7A5839C-3529-00000109A4CEDE40.jpg)
A buddy of mine works at a machine shop had it square decked and resurfaced.  Looks like new!
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/4589E339-BC87-44C7-95C8-3CDAB29238B8-3529-00000109AD63DDF0.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/717EFDAA-2AB0-4916-BF70-976D0B4DD4FE-3529-00000109B92BC35A.jpg)
Much better!
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Post by: Prolowtone on 07:38:23 PM / 01-Dec-12
that is much better
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 01:14:18 AM / 03-Dec-12
Looks good...
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:38:05 PM / 07-Dec-12
Update to the parts bin:

Here's when my Ishihara-Johnson crank scraper / windage tray came in:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B64D2DC2-040E-4334-AF9A-08309F0D556A-2404-000000B7A64A9477.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/FE380680-67D2-49EE-B96C-AE7E54017FF0-2404-000000B7CE658523.jpg)

This will help with acceleration by getting that excess oil off the crank and free up some power by breaking up that nasty windage cloud that causes drag on the rotating assembly.
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Post by: darryn. on 04:49:28 AM / 12-Dec-12
Liking where this is going man :) SR <3
I was thinking of using BC cams in mine but after a bit of research found the knock pin in the intake cam is out on them some up to 16* needing an adjustable gear to dial it into where it should be. Just a heads up incase you havent heard of it before. I read of people putting them in and loosing power because of it :/
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:31:14 PM / 12-Dec-12
Liking where this is going man :) SR <3
I was thinking of using BC cams in mine but after a bit of research found the knock pin in the intake cam is out on them some up to 16* needing an adjustable gear to dial it into where it should be. Just a heads up incase you havent heard of it before. I read of people putting them in and loosing power because of it :/
Yeah, thanks for the tip but my cams are Crower, not Brian Crower (BC). Totally different cam manufacturers. I wanted to try them simply because nobody has any experience with them that I can tell. Sounds crazy I know but I'm not a bandwagon type of guy.
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 01:23:42 PM / 13-Dec-12
Didn't know crower and brian crower were different companies are they cheaper than bc?
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Post by: darryn. on 02:15:44 PM / 13-Dec-12
Oh yeah, I was always under the impression that they were the same company :P I thought it was strange because I had heard of crower being pretty well known for their good reputation and work/products, then when I read about the timing issue and that they were mass produced china cams it struck me as odd. Glad thats cleared up now haha.

What turbo are you running with the s1 cams? Sorry if Ive missed it in an earlier post :P
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:01:37 PM / 14-Dec-12
This link should clear up the BC / Crower relationship:  http://www.briancrower.com/about.shtml

As for the turbo, I'll be running the s15 dual BB turbo that's on the CA18ET right now but if it's out of spec when I pull it out I'm going with either a Disco potato or the Tomei ARMS M7960 kit.  The T28BB should be fine though because I only ran it for about 6 months.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:45:17 PM / 15-Dec-12
Didn't know crower and brian crower were different companies are they cheaper than bc?
I wish. They are considerably more (probably why not many people run them).  Besides I had access to these and they have a great reputation with the muscle car guys so I figured why not.
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Some more goodies came in:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/2958D949.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/58865C0B.jpg)
ACT HD pressure plate and clutch disc

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Post by: D-sport S12 on 01:43:01 PM / 16-Dec-12
That's a nice feeling street clutch, drove a skyline with one like it, not to agrresive unlike my 4 puck
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:05:37 PM / 16-Dec-12
Yeah, my goal was to be able to enjoy the car. I don't want to feel like I'm working every time I step on the clutch pedal.  Besides, I'm pretty sure I won't be making anything close to the 372ft lb rating anyway.
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I decided to go with the matching streetlite flywheel for the same reasons
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/ABA8A580.jpg)
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Post by: IggyEGuana on 03:13:06 AM / 18-Dec-12
baller parts list adding up
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:29:56 AM / 21-Dec-12
baller parts list adding up
I just want to spend the money where it counts.  I only want to do this once!

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Believe it or not, I plan in using the oem intake and exhaust manifolds to take advantage of the new cam profiles and to save some funtickets in the process.  With that said I wanted to try out this new paint from KBS coatings. They are a new vendor that just got picked up where I work.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/6C113EFC.jpg)
I talked to the reps and they say the spray will withstand about 1200 degrees and it won't peel or flake off.  I sprayed my exhaust manni with it and it looks like it was powdercoated.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/5FAF1A0D.jpg)
I did have to hit it with a wire wheel to get all the surface rust off first and then wiped it down with some TSP to remove any left over oils and dust before spraying it.  Then I baked it in my barbecue grill @ 300 degrees.

I'm not a great painter but this thing has zero runs on it.  I think it came out pretty decent for a spray coating.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/5E4F6C84.jpg)
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I'm thinking of doing the same to the intake manni as well but I'm not sure on the color scheme yet. You can bet it won't be blue, green and white though.
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I'm almost done prepping my intake manifold and valve cover.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/s12pics/CAC11BAC.jpg)
Problem is I just noticed that the baffle drain (Or what ever it's called) on the underside of the VC is broken.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/6E62EC0E-66BB-4410-9E31-41C4C5634D46-70845-000014DFE0E64CB0.jpg)
Not really sure if it matters or not but it kind of makes me uneasy about using it. I found another one though but it sucks that I wasted all that time and energy getting off that ugly blue powder coat. BTW, CRC gasket remover works wonders on powdercoating. Spray it on and let it sit for a few then wipe it off - no BS! I used a platic scraper to avoid gouging the VC.
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Post by: axlegrease on 04:02:11 PM / 23-Dec-12
Nice build thread!!! Looks like its going along quite well! Maybe this will inspire me to get up off my lazy ass and throw the sr in my s12 too....  :yawn:
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:44:46 PM / 05-Jan-13
Nice build thread!!! Looks like its going along quite well! Maybe this will inspire me to get up off my lazy ass and throw the sr in my s12 too....  :yawn:
Thanks for the kind words!  Yeah, getting off your duff is the hardest part.  More updates today....I hope.
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Update: I started pulling off some of the front end trim to get ready to remove the fenders.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/7CD47A7B-AFB8-44E5-9DA7-B8479DDCA6F5-3529-000001062E474BC0.jpg)
Found 26 year old dirt that accumulated behind the mud guards. 
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B3A8DB7D-D8CC-431A-93E4-C03972EFF752-3529-000001064DAB72D0.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/5B8AEE72-C90C-40B7-AD9E-5BD6B1DC3AB7-3529-000001066D9A3E08.jpg)
Fenders and hood off:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/1B347908-5917-48B6-A7FE-AC82DA6FC3FD-40502-00000BE5F97E122B.jpg)
Once that was done, I realized that I needed to turn the car around in order to have enough room to pull the motor.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F9399458-3768-4D85-B211-45A08F857245-40861-00000BFA77C31008.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/56E9B6F6-9D3A-4C71-9482-E55F5854BA21-40861-00000BF9CC80ED09.jpg)
Thank god my CA18ET still runs!
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Last time I'll see the 18ET in the 'ol bay.
Sad to see it go....can we get a moment of silence?.....
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/26E91B56-18C6-450F-8C42-35E4DB21F792-40861-00000BFA15AE210A.jpg)
okay now that I'm over that, I can't wait to get it outta there!
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Post by: Jeremy A on 07:09:42 PM / 05-Jan-13
 :sniffles:
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Post by: BattleFairy on 02:53:03 AM / 06-Jan-13
 :cry2:
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 11:59:51 AM / 06-Jan-13
Bye Bye single cam ca :(
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Post by: I_heart_VVL on 01:55:51 PM / 06-Jan-13
WOOOOOH! Rip that bitch outta there already!!!
:grinwink:
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Post by: Prolowtone on 02:34:54 PM / 06-Jan-13
looking good man!
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Post by: Jeremy A on 07:15:19 PM / 06-Jan-13
:sniffles:
:cry2:
Bye Bye single cam ca :(


.....meanwhile...



WOOOOOH! Rip that bitch outta there already!!!


Hahahahaha,  classic!
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Post by: I_heart_VVL on 10:33:51 PM / 06-Jan-13
Shit people, get excited that another dusty ol' CA is getting pulled!
:P
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Post by: Prolowtone on 10:19:25 AM / 07-Jan-13
If it was a dusty ol ca20 then I would agree hahaha
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I do like the build he is doing tho
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 06:04:41 PM / 07-Jan-13
You guys are f'ing funny.  You gotta give the CA it's respect though.  It got me where I needed to go for 2 years before it started pissing oil. 

Thanks for the touching selection BattleFairy!  :cry2:
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 06:35:02 PM / 07-Jan-13
I love the ca moreso than anyone on this site and everyone can tell you that...lol
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:41:09 PM / 08-Jan-13
Update: A friend from work came over to light a fire under my ass, err help me out....
I decided against wrecklessly evacuating r134a into my neighborhood (I just kept thinking about my 3 year old daughter and the ozone etc.) so we took the twelve out for it's final voyage under the power of the CA motor. We drove it down to let the cool old doods at City Automotive do the evac the right way. She felt extra quick that day.  Maybe because I haven't driven it 2 1/2 years or maybe the 'ol CA knew about it's last day in the car.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/85D0511C-F091-406C-A202-6B1A3DCD65D8-43580-00000CCA4C0EA983.jpg)
After the joyride was over, we started pulling off all the necessary piping, wiring, and hoses.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/D36BB4F0-2573-426E-9D83-B67EDB7FD9AF-43926-00000CDE3A3A5578.jpg)
Frickin' left rearward motor mount bolt head rounded off so I had to remove the bolt at the block side of the bracket.

Ready to go!
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/9C9419BF-0868-475F-8CC0-695EA6095C4A-62968-00001282110D3E1D.jpg)
Well, not quite. I friggin forgot to remove the shift lever  :idea:

Now we are go!
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/266EC932-767D-4760-8208-23E4A55547C4-62968-0000127D041AA9DA.jpg)

With a little persuasion comes success!
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E2511C9E-14B2-41CC-B6CE-B149DE34AEDE-62968-0000127CD267C81B.jpg)
^I let my buddy take this dumb ass pic so he could shut the hell up about it!

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B087D158-8C9B-4E5C-96A9-A809366CCBCE-62968-0000127CAC68A6AB.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F30EA151-7994-4E9C-9188-51B46915348A-62968-0000127CA0700148.jpg)
DONE!!!
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 09:26:21 PM / 09-Jan-13
nicely done do i spy a t25g from an sr on the ca?
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Post by: I_heart_VVL on 11:50:07 PM / 09-Jan-13
I'm pretty sure thats the S15 T28 he's mentioned before.
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 01:49:26 AM / 10-Jan-13
Must've missed that part.....
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Post by: I_heart_VVL on 02:55:03 AM / 10-Jan-13
There's a huge picture of it on the first page hahaha
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:48:07 PM / 10-Jan-13
I'm pretty sure thats the S15 T28 he's mentioned before.
You are correct Sir.
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 11:51:00 PM / 10-Jan-13
There's a huge picture of it on the first page hahaha


Again missed it....
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:22:11 AM / 12-Jan-13
I need to start pulling some of this crap out of the engine bay. I know I'm crazy for saying this, but I think I'm gonna try and pull off a wire tuck.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/26B8D605-0E1C-4559-90DC-A4ECE656016E-62968-00001276C11B7A71.jpg)
I've also been trying to decide what color I'm going to spray the engine bay. Been tossing around the idea of gold or an old school wrinkle gray or something but, IDK.

Anyway, now it's time to get down to business.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/A62010BD-DD80-4239-9016-144EB97188D6-25715-000024CB52674F6D.jpg)

My peeps from from work came through to help me put the bottom end together. They started an organization called YAI Racing. These guys are gonna do big things this year and it looks like I'm going to be a part of some of it in one way or another. We kind of hit it off when we met and the rest is history. Check out thier video here:
http://youtu.be/EiVLQ98ggI4

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/277A2199-A7DB-49EE-9857-0AD5A8B184DB-96301-00001C30CA03045E.jpg)
J
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E2740EA4-391C-454A-82AC-E9CDBBA35111-96301-00001C31405B2121.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E8345B2F-419D-45A9-B043-181AD6DEA3C9-25977-000024D17D661037.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/EA9CA90E-589B-41F9-96E7-C79A0390FCF4-25977-000024D04F35091E.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F8BE8072-F61D-4D07-A356-FBEF78074D3D-25977-000024D0939A9D2E.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/32467B05-C16F-4B70-AF67-4A8A40342943-25977-000024D8812B8545.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/D275D677-14D7-4EC6-A944-7AF23E8DECDE-96301-00001C328037CE10.jpg)
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Ran outta time. I'll post more pics later.
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 10:59:31 AM / 12-Jan-13
NIce Looking good
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:22:58 PM / 13-Jan-13
More pics:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/469A6CE3-DFE6-4C20-A289-08FF30683D6F-25977-000024D0D06206C1.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/76C3EEBE-18AC-4196-BA93-BFCDE8F3541C-96301-00001C329BB42698.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/049C16FE-8DE0-418B-A6E8-285D6894625C-96301-00001C33F81544A2.jpg)
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 10:24:32 PM / 13-Jan-13
Damn I hope my ca looks that good....
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 06:50:07 PM / 14-Jan-13
Thanks sideways, I hope to be putting the head on tomorrow. If so I'll be sure to post pics.
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 06:52:07 PM / 14-Jan-13
Please do!
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Post by: D-sport S12 on 09:31:01 PM / 15-Jan-13
What headgasket are you going with?
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:14:48 AM / 16-Jan-13
What headgasket are you going with?
APEX'I
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Post by: Baby on 07:25:00 PM / 16-Jan-13
Holy shit! That's LEGIT haha. I've always dreamed of doing this... :(
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Post by: s12rich on 10:35:56 PM / 16-Jan-13
may i say(in a eastern europeon accent) VERY NICE HOW MUCH!!?   ...lol awesome build :cool2:
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:01:08 AM / 19-Jan-13
Alot less than some other builds that's for sure. Thanks guys.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:54:16 PM / 21-Jan-13
Update: since the bottom end is finally together, I decided to get the IJ crank scraper/windage tray ready to go in.
First I had to disassemble it to check for clearance.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/25F90D38-F8F3-4E22-A666-19D4D37C41F3-51318-00002C35E312FB4D.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/89619BD1-AF11-48EE-830C-7E09AD2C8FB1-51318-00002C35D1BB576E.jpg)
It's supposed to be installed with 1mm of clearance. I sat it on the girdle and it needs a lot of adjustment. The cut outs for the rods might need some filing but nothing major. I'll post more pics tomorrow when I plan on getting a lot done.  I hope to be setting the head on after the upper and lower oil pans are on.
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 10:55:26 PM / 21-Jan-13
what is it and whats it's purpose?
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Post by: turbo-s12 on 11:08:04 PM / 21-Jan-13
i thinks its supposed to stop oil foaming and keep oil off the crank....and i think it helps with oil starvation under heavy breaking etc
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:22:33 PM / 21-Jan-13
From crank-scrapers.com:

·       Less rotating mass for the engine to accelerate because of the removed oil
·       Less loss of power because of excessive drag caused by the windage cloud
·       Helps reduce engine damaging oil-foaming
·       Helps avoid oil starvation by keeping the oil in the pan during hard braking and  turning as well as during off-road driving
·       Helps to cool critical engine parts by quickly returning heated oil to the sump
·       Helps to prevent the cylinder walls from being overloaded with oil
·       Can help with fuel efficiency
 
Theoretically these benifits will contribute to improved engine response.
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Post by: turbo-s12 on 11:28:27 PM / 21-Jan-13
ehh i was kinda on track lol
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never heard of windage cloud
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:51:22 PM / 21-Jan-13
ehh i was kinda on track lol
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never heard of windage cloud
Nah bro, you were spot on.  I just wanted to add some other points from the website.
Here's an explaination of what a windage cloud is for those that are interested:
http://www.crank-scrapers.com/What%20is%20a%20crank-scraper.html
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 11:52:37 PM / 21-Jan-13
From crank-scrapers.com:

·       Less rotating mass for the engine to accelerate because of the removed oil
·       Less loss of power because of excessive drag caused by the windage cloud
·       Helps reduce engine damaging oil-foaming
·       Helps avoid oil starvation by keeping the oil in the pan during hard braking and  turning as well as during off-road driving
·       Helps to cool critical engine parts by quickly returning heated oil to the sump
·       Helps to prevent the cylinder walls from being overloaded with oil
·       Can help with fuel efficiency
 
Theoretically these benifits will contribute to improved engine response.

Thanks for the info I have never heard of this that's why I asked...Benefits sound good...
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Post by: turbo-s12 on 01:20:45 PM / 22-Jan-13
Thats pretty cool...tea leaf paradox lol
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:44:05 PM / 22-Jan-13
I been trying to get the clearances right on this thing all day. I finally got it but I still need to recheck everything and then add a little loctite to the threads and button it up then I can put on the oil pump, pickup and upper / lower pans.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/5EDA58FB-3293-4440-A6B1-A7E0C1B7E802-53308-00002CDBE5ACD87E.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/00CB945F-63A4-43B4-ABAA-C824769390B7-53308-00002CDC1F5254F0.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/A525DFF5-8A33-46AB-9660-ED9C1BF63BCE-53308-00002CCFE8D5A22D.jpg)
I really want to get this part of the build done so I might get some work done while everyone's sleeping. Looks like its gonna be a long night. I'll sleep tomorrow.
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^Yeah that went well. I once I got something to eat and a cold one, I was out like a light. Well, today's another off day so I'll be at it again.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:42:03 AM / 24-Jan-13
While I search for "free" time, I thought I'd post a little gem I came up on via eBay a couple months ago:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/7AC191EF-B8E8-460C-9B35-6BA1673A3E35-40502-00000BE5A548468E.jpg)
Brand new in the box with installation instructions and all!
It'll go great wih the rest of the kit parts I have accumulated over the years.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/9A06B2AF-2AD3-4822-AE54-9AEE22F4CD04-40502-00000BE5C6418AF0.jpg)
Yeah, I know people are probably gonna say that's what everybody is doing but I think these cars look so much better with the SE kit.  I have all the hardware and bracing. I think one or two peices need repair but I am still on the hunt for replacements. 
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Post by: night_s12 on 09:45:43 AM / 24-Jan-13
You lucky ass bastard!!! In box flaps ggrrrrr!!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:30:01 PM / 24-Jan-13
I couldn't believe it either. I also couldn't believe that no one on CS12 got them before I did. 
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 09:42:24 PM / 24-Jan-13
Who had them?
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:34:29 AM / 26-Jan-13
Who had them?
Some random guy on eBay. I think he had z31 in his username.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 12:56:51 AM / 27-Jan-13
ahh ok
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:51:55 PM / 27-Jan-13
Well, the weather is supposed to be real nice here on Tuesday so I plan on getting the block, head, upper oil pan, intake manifold and, trans painted up. Im going to paint it all back aluminum so nothing crazy here. I decided to wait on putting the head on because I've got my friend making a thread chaser for me out of an old head bolt at the machine shop. The theads were chased but I'll feel better once I do it one last time before I finally thread in the head studs.  I'll link up with him after I get off work tomorrow and get the head on once the paint dries.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 11:32:43 PM / 27-Jan-13
Pics when finished please lol
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:07:14 PM / 29-Jan-13
Time to get the block ready for paint so I armed myself with the necessary tools to get it clean.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/6BFBCAB5-EC6E-48B8-AA00-802E4E13D97B-70823-000031F50B773DBA.jpg)
We were out of the engine stand drip tray I wanted at work so I made my own.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/400CF8D6-C38A-4161-8C3E-EC173D655AFB-70823-000031F53B47180A.jpg)
I met up with my boy from YAI today who made a thread chaser for me out of an old head bolt.  The cuts are a little janky but the concept is the same. Plus, I didn't have an M11x1.50 die just laying around so it'll do.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E96F3C14-9571-4B46-B474-D1ADED28F47D-70823-000031F18B07A4B5.jpg)
With life and everything else it took me most of the day to clean the block and prep it for paint. I'll post pics after the primer goes on.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/89FB8B57-8571-4DD2-963F-D7E87C75C84B-71936-0000323E0032BCEF.jpg)


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Primer:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/1E8B5447-AFDB-440C-A0C0-34999E9C256C-71936-0000324AF3A7A252.jpg)
Paint:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/8E84E918-1314-4A1F-B55D-31A653170AA4-72657-0000326E4E8393C8.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/2C39552B-CD01-44AA-B565-09067E545534-72657-0000326E583B3FAD.jpg)
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: night_s12 on 11:57:51 PM / 29-Jan-13
Looking super nice
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Post by: s12rich on 12:42:55 PM / 30-Jan-13
someone isnt slackin on the little details...this is nice to see ...nice work
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 03:41:42 PM / 30-Jan-13
Quit fucking around an start the car! lol
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:49:29 PM / 04-Feb-13
Thanks for the compliments guys. Hell sideways! I wish I could start this shit!  Anyway tomorrow is another off day so back to work on the motor. Should have the head painted and ready to go by the end of the day.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 09:02:43 PM / 04-Feb-13
Sweet!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: turbo-s12 on 09:14:51 PM / 04-Feb-13
Lookin super fresh
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:48:35 PM / 05-Feb-13
Okay I finally got the head and upper oil pan primed and painted to match the block.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E3A55CBB-9BCC-42B8-9741-FAFF1B700BE3-3094-000000E1B23788E7.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/02FB1969-C267-4C90-8E4B-9AC80C589346-3094-000000E183A0246A.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/70F20E26-FF96-4D9D-ABCD-3FA1A2ECC1A2-3094-000000EF3DC571EA.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/7F1B5F42-C2E4-44BA-B665-A198A1A9DA79-3094-000000EF1E199C9A.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/5F7066E0-F995-482A-8CA4-A0DA41C6652A-3094-000000F1F432CAC9.jpg)

The only other major thing I have to get done tomorrow is throw a set of wheels on my daily. Sounds easy right?  Yeah it would be if I didn't have to adjust the ride height for bigger wheels. That shit is normally a SOB to get right. I would put it off but I'm riding on Maypops and I'm just asking for a blowout on the way to work or even worse a blowout with my daughter in the car. If that doesn't take all day then the head and block will be joined together in holy matrimony!  I know that shit was corny but I'm high on duplicolor!
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No head games today. Too much going on. I did manage to get a couple more parts painted though.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/C21EA719-FBE1-4904-9FE4-E1060ADF39E8-6026-000001D5A9B404EA.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B6C8BBC6-0C9C-4E0D-8242-7C4D4DDDFC31-6026-000001C445F1B1F4.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/D3B1DB81-999A-4027-9DC0-80BD765A3BCE-6026-000001E3190FB4ED.jpg)

It won't be long before this motor is together. That is if I can keep from obsessing over every little detail.  :grinwink:
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: s12rich on 05:45:33 PM / 08-Feb-13
The details are why we keep looking ....keep it up bro
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 07:22:18 PM / 11-Feb-13
Getting ready to put the head on.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/EAFE1873-95C7-4DAA-B7D4-74A1437C43AB-11817-00000393FF227CE2.jpg)
The mating surface has to be super clean for the MLS gasket so I spent some quality time with the head, block and some lacquer thinner until my rag wiped clean.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/53749626-4578-4518-9DEB-310E9E6F7317-11817-000003980907FD23.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/7CC8CBA2-0834-4237-918C-FE9034D9E302-11817-000003968AC26DCB.jpg)

Even though it's been in a bag, you'd be surprised what kind of gunk gets stuck to the deck just sitting around...the head goes on tomorrow for real!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: Jeremy A on 07:49:08 PM / 11-Feb-13
Goddamn
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:29:27 PM / 11-Feb-13
Goddamn
Jeremy man, lol what was that for?
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: Jeremy A on 09:18:41 PM / 11-Feb-13
Haha,  that SR just looks,  amazing.  For the love of machines!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 07:34:51 AM / 12-Feb-13
Lol, Thanks for the love Bro!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: s12rich on 03:29:04 PM / 12-Feb-13
wot wot!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:04:23 AM / 15-Feb-13
Installed the water and oil blowby tubes with a little loctite to keep 'em sealed.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/CC5C50A3-C7C0-430A-88AD-4E1821048B34-15975-000004B6F0157AD4.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/02452630-C58D-4657-BC42-CE0E9A690006-15975-000004B733332F34.jpg)
Then it was time for the good stuff....
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/EAAB62E3-0B22-40EA-A560-4263B69527E3-15975-000004BAE1C70835.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/4BC80F2C-87CF-4F8D-8978-755D7F0035E7-15975-000004BF0DF0DA91.jpg)
I've been doing a lot of research on this motor and what people are doing.  I ran accross a thread on nico I think an a guy named hijacker seemed to have some good info on rebuilds.  He actually installs his head studs the opposite to what ARP suggests. He puts the head on and then the studs. He says it eliminates any chance of the head getting cocked on the studs.  I figured I would give it a try....
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/EB46A74A-E039-49EF-ABA4-0926DD6A832E-15975-000004BC565833D3.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/A7DCF9BA-01D9-4399-96F3-6BAA8D27D04D-15975-000004BC99B24905.jpg)
Turns out he was right up until the #7 stud in the torque sequence didn't thread in by hand too well so I had to take the head off anyway. Gonna call ARP today to see what's up because I cleaned the shit out of the threads and the hole. I even tried an old head bolt and it went in smooth as ice. More to come.....
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 12:31:39 PM / 15-Feb-13
I threaded in mine like that to, way less headache
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 02:09:00 AM / 16-Feb-13
So I spoke with ARP and was told that the tensil strength of the material and the way their theads are cut sometimes makes it hard to hand tighten some of the studs. I think he said the difference was square cut threads vs. ball cut threads.  It kind of makes sense because even though it was hard to turn, the threads on the stud didn't get boogered up when I backed it out and when I chased it no metal shavings came out.  So, it looks like I'll just re-check the torque on the head studs and start dropping in the valve train next.

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I threaded in mine like that to, way less headache
I thought it would be an issue getting the head back on with the studs in place but it slid right on with no problem.

DSport, did you put RTV on the front half of the head gasket and the top of the front cover?
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:28:16 PM / 18-Feb-13
Update: With the valve train going in tomorrow I need to figure out how I'm gonna measure valve stem / shim heights without "the tool". Some people make them out of an old lifter but I don't have any extra ones laying around.  I'll think of something though. I wouldn't even be thinking about checking this but It's been so long since I got the head back from the machine shop that I forgot I had a valve job done on it. Even though I kept all the rockers, lifters, shims and guides organized when I tore down the motor I still want to check everything just to be sure.
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Today was a pretty weak. I didn't get hardly anything done. It turns out that I'm going to need new rocker arms, guides and shims. I never really had a chance to closely inspect these when I took them out but as I was cleaning everything up today I found this...
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/A6B4A8E9-CC76-4907-8837-D2B8C5F776A4-5915-000001C0A3FF4750.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E437B528-840A-4936-88E1-2AA640A864B1-5915-000001BF0D0CB2A1.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E843987F-F0F6-46A4-8715-FDA859849F18-5915-000001BE90513D9F.jpg)
The one on the right in this pic is one if the better ones, but it still has lots of wear toward the edges. You can see it better below.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/5E21C500-971E-4585-A0C9-2163DD8D4AFB-5915-000001BFC7F442C2.jpg)
Well, yet another delay. Oh well, I guess it comes with the territory when you're building a car.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:44:41 AM / 23-Feb-13
Since I have to wait for the new rockers to come in, I started removing some of the BS out of the engine bay....
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E44A0CEC-7947-4AF8-8030-5FA666F62970-8114-000002622EEDA75F.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/A8E2BF57-38C2-47EB-816E-78B2B15808B3-8114-0000027278E8D6F5.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/141716D7-FD5F-46EF-90CD-422959B986A3-1954-00000091569C3408.jpg)

That shit got boring so I started to mock up a potential spot for my intercooler.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E18A35E3-6F02-4E7D-A814-AF26BC5C52A0-8114-00000273F3F710DD.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B998CE70-0FD4-437A-8E74-E11D70B0245E-8114-000002742B347FE2.jpg)
I was trying to see if I could do a high mount setup so I removed the center rad support to gain a little more clearance. 
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B4FC28FD-4AD3-42A7-9A12-83782AA2339C-8114-00000275010E9872.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/5B5897D7-DC7F-44ED-8A38-7C5890A91955-8114-00000275240F668C.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B876FDB8-0C51-4732-804B-E22A34AD94D4-8114-0000027ADD1EEF85.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/2AB42CB1-52EC-4250-8092-3DC2B045AEBF-8114-000002764E86C473.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E79609C5-9607-4768-B25F-0B03464A898C-8114-000002767160D683.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/2A275697-F71A-4856-8B36-88ACFBFFEE32-8114-0000027B69DCD916.jpg)
Looks like I'm gonna have to move the headlight motors down to the frame and use some carb linkage rods to extend the reach. That way I can mount the IC underneath the radiator support and use some 90 degree silicone couplers. That should keep the IC piping nice and short. 
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 06:40:04 AM / 01-Mar-13
I still need a way to get the shim measurements. I tried some things that I rigged up but there was too much play when I moved the dial indicator to the adjacent valve.

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This worked but it was just not repeatable. The measurements changed too much. 
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/77FFA40A-7B95-44C5-A9D2-A4FB11558BDE-12657-000003A847CA2F43.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/C1882860-7E9F-48CF-B9EF-49FCD2D2B2C3-12657-000003A91A0DC694.jpg)
I'm gonna call my former co-worker to see if I can borrow the kent-moore nissan dealer shim plate kit.  This crap is really chapping my ass. 
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:06:34 PM / 04-Mar-13
Small update.  I got ahold of the Nissan dealer shim plate!  Only thing is that the damned kit is incomplete!  Anyway I think I can make it work. Stay tuned!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:15:08 AM / 08-Mar-13
I finally got all the measurements for the correct shims so I ordered all the needed sizes along with all new guides. Unfortunately the guides are on back order until late next week so I won't be putting the cams in this thing for at least another couple of weeks. I figure now would be a good time to prep the engine bay and run the wire harness. The weather is supposed to break here pretty soon so I should be a le to make some really good progress.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 12:24:03 PM / 08-Mar-13
Doing my wiring to, still unsure why they route that wiper control box where it is.....
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:41:34 PM / 14-Mar-13
I layed out my harness and it looks like I'm gonna need a new TPS connector.  I was also thinking about running the ECM harness through the firewall like Arro's KA hatch.  Still debating on what color to paint the engine bay.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 02:47:54 PM / 29-Mar-13
I've been sick as hell the last few weeks with a sinus infection so I haven't even touched the car.  I did manage to push the car out of the garage and spray off 27 years of grime in the engine bay just before all that. I used some POR15 marine clean. Looks like some POR15 rust paint is in order to neutralize some of the rusty areas.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/0B2FAFDB-CAB2-4ABF-81B9-E6604D281C37-6431-000001C0E0F09350.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/6E705C2E-332B-4AE9-A716-2A0DE6B6C180-6431-000001C1A0AA82B8.jpg)
I still need to get in there with a bucket of simple green and get some of that grease out of the nooks and crannies.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 03:03:45 PM / 12-Apr-13
My new rockers and shims came in a couple of weeks ago but I'm just getting around to checking everything.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/1AF003EB-82A5-4031-9BFC-AD51F28DE021-26127-00000780E8F7F191.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/87B1CB70-6261-4B2B-B5A3-E252DA11C53C-26127-00000780F43854B1.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/5D77A09E-DAA1-4695-91F5-587884A7E4E5-26127-00000780FA85AB48.jpg)
Everything double checked and all good.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/84DE81FD-C80A-455E-9EED-91B468CDD1DD-26127-000007811DB5BA39.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/EE234654-925B-4485-8C87-E05FEF69553A-26127-00000781450B33A1.jpg)
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 10:43:31 PM / 15-Apr-13
Nice! When's your deadline to get it fired up?
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:48:35 PM / 15-Apr-13
That date has already passed!  I keep running into stupid little problems that cause me to back track. I plan on painting the engine bay and one of my 2 valve covers (I might polish one) tomorrow and then finishing up the rest of the motor when my helicoil kit comes in. I ended up breaking the head off a thread chaser in the block right before I was about to install my timing cover.  Needless to say I was heated!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 02:27:07 AM / 22-Apr-13
Lol I know that feeling nice progress your making tho... Keep it up lol I'm still waiting on the machine shop to finish up mine before it can be put together...
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:53:32 AM / 24-May-13
Damn I got sick again. This time with shingles!!! They stared flaring up while I was in Vegas a couple weeks ago so I could'nt do anything for a week or so.
Well, a small update anyway: I finally got the head, cams, and timing components on the motor on Wednsday. I also managed to get the s14 oil pump strainer installed over the crank scraper and windage tray but I ran into a fitment issue when I test fitted the upper oil pan. One of the curved baffles is making contact with the windage screen so it won't mate with the block.  I'm pretty sure if I remove some of the washers it'll clear but I'm gonna call Kevin at IJ today to make sure I don't need to trim / grind the pan baffles instead.
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(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/AF3C7E1B-9571-41C2-90E2-97FD5D1DC153-37583-00000A924B106958.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/C993DC8D-54CB-440D-ACBA-68DCF7E92D4B-37583-00000A91CA20BEB2.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/4E87F2DA-73C4-4ECC-A624-9A8714BA4A08-33450-0000096F038D7184.jpg)
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 08:45:12 PM / 25-May-13
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: turbo-s12 on 12:11:52 AM / 26-May-13
.....
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: rednucleus on 12:24:18 AM / 26-May-13
She will be asking for the S12 keys before you know it
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 01:45:42 PM / 01-Jun-13
Small Update.  I figured out the the upper oil pan fitment issue but haven't had enough time to spend on it.  I did however get a couple more things on the engine in the mean time. 
Since I've been searching for a decent OEM crank pulley for months I decided that I would fix the one I broke during the initial tear down.  I wish I would have taken a before photo but I did'nt think about fixing it until the last minute.  I was using one of those 3 claw pullers and broke a 1/2 inch chunk out of the second lip from the back of the pulley.  Here it is after I filled in the missing steel with my old friend JB weld.  I sanded, primed and painted it along with the CAS cover.  I'm still not sure I like it though.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/94A78372-17E2-40D9-B83C-1EC760AC052F-53929-00000F054AEF9F6B-1.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/94A78372-17E2-40D9-B83C-1EC760AC052F-53929-00000F054AEF9F6B-1.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/BC24C4D7-500B-4A96-8EC7-F55412012B97-53929-00000F060D5C8BDA.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/BC24C4D7-500B-4A96-8EC7-F55412012B97-53929-00000F060D5C8BDA.jpg.html)
Once I installed it thought it looked too plain so I added some swag :idea:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/C89BF7CC-394E-4570-9387-FE41A135E151-53929-00000F056A904C28.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/C89BF7CC-394E-4570-9387-FE41A135E151-53929-00000F056A904C28.jpg.html)
I might do the rest of the pulleys this way or I might get black lightweights later but I really don't think they help enough to justify the cost.  30 minutes here. 30 minutes there...this is taking way too long!  I want to get this thing done! :glarestraight:
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 07:26:04 PM / 11-Jun-13
Latest update. I finally had a few hours to work on the motor.  I got the last bit of clearance I needed to get the upper pan on.  I went ahead and test fit my shinny new lower oil pan.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/DBE1D772-C6B6-4088-8ECB-333FA86CC95D-81705-00001706802EB126.jpg)

Too bad for me that Moroso machined the bolt holes too far outward.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/D3504553-15E9-4BE6-A18E-6D6038270282-81705-000017099BEAC73B.jpg)

I couldn't even get any of the nuts over the studs on the back of the pan.  :glare:

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E9EBA423-3956-449E-A5EE-F30FE1F9BFBD-81705-0000170A3C0F615D.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/C0A221E7-2792-43A4-9247-B64357751F5A-81705-000017065D728714.jpg)

And the bolts on the front fit so close that they were gouging the side if the pan!  WTH man?

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/3E3E3FC9-9012-497E-921D-5086F175F396-81705-0000170FDD00470D.jpg)

Wow. What a letdown. I'm defiantly not going to modify a pan that costs this much. It's going back on Thursday.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: AlEx_RaCiNg666 on 08:38:37 AM / 13-Jun-13
just put sepated nuts and washer...should be good
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:52:36 PM / 13-Jun-13
I did consider using some bolts instead of the studs but the washers still would'nt sit flush inside the machined area and they would be cocked once the nuts were tightened and I just didnt want to deal with a potential leak. Thanks but I already took it back today. Besides, I already had a new OEM pan that I ended up using instead.
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I might try a Canton racing pan later if I decide to track the car seriously but for now it's just gonna be a stout street car.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 07:17:54 PM / 17-Jun-13
The new OEM pan is on and sealed up tight. I hope. All I have to do is paint one or these valve covers up and then start hanging the accessories on this thing. I might even get to paint the engine bay tomorrow. 
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/EA820378-487D-4D2E-B640-26B9207A95B1-96232-00001B153AB46516.jpg)
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One of my customers said he would polish one of these for me but I'll have to see how the one I plan on painting turns out.  I have this idea I want to try.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:40:36 AM / 26-Jun-13
Well, epic fail on the painted valve cover.  I wanted a wrinkle silver finish so I used some wrinkle black spray paint.  The whole thing went south during the last coat.  So now I will probably start on the polishing process on the other one since the person that was gonna polish it for me is MIA.  I might try a brushed aluminum look or just sand it smooth and rock it like that with a nice clear coat. 

Went to work on the engine bay and cleaned it some more and also got some other things out of the way for paint.  So now I'm debating on weather I'm gonna rattle can it or get a touchup HVLP gun and single stage it the right way.  I'll have to see how many funtickets it will be compared to the just spraying some bed liner in there and calling it a day.  IDK. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 07:55:24 AM / 15-Aug-13
It's been a long time since I updated this thread but I finally scraped together a day to work on the car again. Removed some more of the harness and shot some paint on it.

Before:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/9F58FD6C-3992-4D84-957A-89A93426155E-18778-0000056A0167B5B1.jpg)

After:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/ED435CE3-7989-4F05-88ED-9A209E4CF0D6-18778-0000056A14267826.jpg)

This was my first attempt at using a HVLP spray gun. I used rustbullet since I didn't feel like the hassle of mixing activators and what not. Another reason for the RB that it is grey metallic which was the color I was shooting for and it stops rust. A nice 2 for 1 deal.

not sure if it's supposed to but the finish has sort of a texture to it which is nice. I think it gives the bay a vintage feel. I still have to touch up a couple of tiny spots but all in all I think it came out pretty good for my first time.

Now I can start fooling around with the wiring once the RB cures.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 12:25:14 PM / 16-Aug-13
Looking good man
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:33:24 PM / 23-Sep-13
I got in touch with the guys at rustbullet and it turns out that the textured finish was caused by little pockets of solvent that got trapped under the finish. Me being the super anal guy I am ended up flushing the paint gun after every coat with solvent...super overkill!  I had too much solvent mixing with the R.B. I should have just dipped the tip in the solvent to keep the rustbullet from clogging the gun. Anyway I had to sand it down until smooth so I'm hoping to lay down another couple of coats tomorrow and hopefully move on to another important part if the build. I also got a chance to hang the oil filter block and mock up the alternator. I'm gonna need a new adjuster bolt because this one is boogered up real bad.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/1EF8FB8D-DEBD-4267-BF13-83EA23B3292E-16350-000004C480326617_zps35b63b30.jpg)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/38813D27-923E-430F-8415-CBC5A7D47FF9-3058-000000C6310BEE26_zpsd580dae6.jpg)
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: remi_uNderdog on 01:55:55 PM / 24-Sep-13
Looks great man. Like that touch a "swag" added on the crank and engine bay looks great!!!!!! Bet you can't wait! so close!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:37:45 AM / 25-Sep-13
Thanks for the props!  Yeah man I can't wait to just start running the harness. Once that happens its all downhill from there...in a matter of speaking.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:31:37 AM / 19-Oct-13
Small update:  started putting more accessories on the engine. I mocked up the intake mani and fuel rail.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/5CCB227A-D1E1-4827-9C3B-CC755DA97260-17282-000004D086F83264_zps7d912d9c.jpg)
Fuel rail is bent as hell so I either need to source a new used one or go top feed. Any suggestions?

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I'm missing the secondary line that routes back over the rail and back down between the number 1 and 2 intake runners. Anybody have a rail they want to part with?
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When I got the car it had a nasty master cylinder leak so it f'd the paint in the booster (http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/8250F58D-0766-4C6A-88B2-B7F9173CC0C3-10167-000002DE4B85ED29_zps14791aea.jpg)
So you know I'm not putting it back in like this
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I think I might polish it...sike!  Too much work.
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I sort of made a come-up on a steering wheel. I found this a few weeks ago while helping my sister move. It used to be in her Volvo 740 wagon back in the day.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/2FAB1E6A-ED46-4E80-B1A5-C8DC24075A87-3058-000000CCF094B12C_zps3e16d5c1.jpg)

At first I didn't know if I liked it because of the wood in the center so I flipped it over and found three screws on the back and...
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/A06C4A2F-FA1C-4028-866D-D2EDE462A4D3-3058-000000CCF80FAE5D_zps3e95078b.jpg)
Super JDM tightness yo!  Well, not really but I think it might be cool for free.  Maybe get a different horn button. I do have my eye on another wheel since my work just started carrying Sparco.  This could definitely save me some fun tickets though.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:08:16 PM / 22-Oct-13
Got a couple more things cleaned up and painted.
My alternator was looking real dirty next to my clean engine so I just hat to throw some paint on it. 
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/A5CCF43B-6159-477E-9C45-54CD05D6BD39-39743-00000F7C8582AD31_zps86a13743.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/505EDD2A-9C5B-4B95-B242-7057A683B595-39667-00000F669C911951_zpsab114492.jpg)
And I finally decided to paint the PS pulley. I started sanding the alternator pulley and I kind of like the raw look. Still not sure if I'm gonna leave them this way or just get new lightweights. Opinions welcome.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/87CE3F3E-C8F2-49C2-8433-51864C818B53-39667-00000F6523E8EBE4_zpsdbb4bfb7.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/110352ED-AE0D-4674-BE04-8756F954E8C5-39667-00000F65A5918452_zpsa3cc7602.jpg)
I'm really tired of painting. It's time to hang some more $hit on this motor. 
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: IggyEGuana on 10:54:08 PM / 22-Oct-13
keep the wood Grant and its original horn button. old school wood Grant swag!

project is coming along great too. and holy shit that rustbullet is a genius idea. you can buy it in pint cans?
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:40:30 PM / 22-Oct-13
Yup. You sure can!  Thanks again for the props Waylon!
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I had a stupid idea last night and just realized how stupid it really was this morning. I just wish I would have slept on it first. I did get a lot done in the process. I'm off again today so I'll just sleep the rest of the day.
So here's what I was doing all night:

Fitted up the power steering pulley and put on the manifold gasket. BTW, the cometic 3-layer gaskets have a figment issue.  I had to bend the top left corner to clear the upper water neck mount point. There's a rivet to hold the layers together there. Theres another one on the opposite side of the gasket but it fit with no clearance issues. I think this should only be listed to fit the FWD SRs. I think I'll give Cometic a call on that one.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/E4F6A50B-35FF-4C14-B3CF-FE747FC2DD31-39984-00000FC8340CC100_zps7db73a07.jpg)

I bolted the turbo on the manifold and attached the oil feed lines and water line fittings. I used 2 14mm X 1.50 to -6 for coolant and 1 7/16 x 24 to -4 with built in restricter orifice.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/723EF4CC-6139-44DA-8AC5-C566A6A7D5BC-39984-00000FC93472805C_zps1adda3a3.jpg)

I had to flip the waste gate actuator rod in order for the -6 90 degree fitting to clear. I just hand tightened theses two in order to measure how much braided line I'll need.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F5B82A37-F884-41C8-ABF1-EDF59409CB2C-39984-00000FCA032BAF98_zps7e26481d.jpg)

Block fittings in, 1 14mm X 1.50 to -6 for the coolant feed line and one 12mm X 1-25 to -4 for the oil feed.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/EBDFB6E2-7BFB-498F-8CF4-D7C42A1EC342-39984-00000FC6F7672C83_zps656ef4dd.jpg)
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Manifold and turbo mocked up for coolant line measurements.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/7D4D7190-6B36-4511-BD94-9ED4229EE4B9-39984-00000FCD97F072CE_zps8bce82d4.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/962FACFE-A1EB-45ED-8B80-A3EEE5FF62F0-39984-00000FCCA5C33A68_zpsc216df25.jpg)

I'm almost done with the hot side of the motor.  Next I have to cut the braided line and assemble the coolant hoses.  Then bolt on the AC bracket.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:21:58 PM / 04-Nov-13
Finished making up the coolant lines....
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/30DF7858-7747-411C-97F6-36C1BF0FA104-7430-0000044D893ED547_zpse553d5a3.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/4FAC9CAD-D25D-41FA-956D-C4454D08F4D1-8527-000005425C322750_zpsd9169694.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/DD8B6E78-1689-4408-A697-AB5136E25C41-8527-00000542F551993C_zpsa57a592b.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/7B1145FF-BC5C-40BD-90C5-273499F3B32B-8527-0000054359CC2CE4_zpsf9a6c0fd.jpg)

Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 08:58:32 AM / 05-Nov-13
Very nice!
Ever think about running a s14 coolant neck, that way you don't have to run the coolant line around the back of the head
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:59:06 AM / 17-Nov-13
Very nice!
Ever think about running a s14 coolant neck, that way you don't have to run the coolant line around the back of the head

Yeah I did consider that but it's an unnecessary added expense considering I couldn't find a used one anywhere and new ones are severely overpriced. I just can't justify getting one just to simplify one coolant line.
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Post by: pakii-afa on 05:22:42 PM / 17-Nov-13
just a thought but shouldnt oil returns from turbos be fed back to below the turbo since it is purley gravity forced?
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 10:13:58 PM / 17-Nov-13
Lol @ dipped the tip...

Looks good it's coming along nicely whats the estimated finish date?
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:49:16 PM / 17-Nov-13
just a thought but shouldnt oil returns from turbos be fed back to below the turbo since it is purley gravity forced?

Correct, but I haven't done my oil return line yet.
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Lol @ dipped the tip...

Looks good it's coming along nicely whats the estimated finish date?

Shooting for X-mas...again this year.  I PM'd you my cell. You should have called me, I was in Vegas for SEMA. I would have liked to have seen your 12.
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 11:21:34 PM / 17-Nov-13
I never got it or I would of... my bad
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Post by: pakii-afa on 12:06:36 AM / 19-Nov-13
im an idiot  :cantlook:..i thought your coolant line was your oil return, it looked very odd but now i understand why lol
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 02:50:03 PM / 26-Nov-13
Started replacing the old rubber hoses on the intake side.  This has to be the closest replacement hose out there.  Much closer than the part number recommended by a post on Zilvia.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/6A1CDA7E-6431-4C50-BDAA-1E338568BAF7.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/6A1CDA7E-6431-4C50-BDAA-1E338568BAF7.jpg.html)

Had to match up all the others as well...Thanks to the guy at O'reiley's for being patient with me :thumbsup: The counter people at my local AutoZone get the gas face!  :glarestraight:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B7CD1FC8-A0EA-44E6-AF5C-714976A36908.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/B7CD1FC8-A0EA-44E6-AF5C-714976A36908.jpg.html)

They fit pretty good with some trimming.  I reused the OEM clamps simply because they work and I despise worm gears but I'll use them if absolutely necessary.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/24D742F1-153B-4122-822A-90629A202AA2.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/24D742F1-153B-4122-822A-90629A202AA2.jpg.html)

I have to check the 180SX FSM to see what I'm missing and the next time I get a chance, the intake mani and TB get bolted in place...getting closer by the day. Stay tuned.
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Almost forgot.  I came up on a new elbow for 50 funtickets!  Gotta love craig's list!
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F20FC1D3-9401-427A-A68A-B6AD787D3C96.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/F20FC1D3-9401-427A-A68A-B6AD787D3C96.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/129F78DF-C70D-4917-AF4E-642F22FA80E0.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/129F78DF-C70D-4917-AF4E-642F22FA80E0.jpg.html)

I bought it off a guy who's swapping a LS1 into a 240Z. I think I made a new friend.  He gave me a bunch of other stuff to boot. 
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Post by: IggyEGuana on 11:13:11 PM / 26-Nov-13
looking great. is that turbo elbow the one with the smooth divider inside?
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:31:54 PM / 27-Nov-13
Thanks Iggy. No dividers here though.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B4F0718E-8CD9-473A-92DF-B79D23792F1C.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/B4F0718E-8CD9-473A-92DF-B79D23792F1C.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/633EEC7E-B64D-43F5-9E85-65E7D5E6D30B.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/633EEC7E-B64D-43F5-9E85-65E7D5E6D30B.jpg.html)

My old ebay special elbow has a divider.  The outlet pipe diameter was cool for the 18ET but too small for what I'm doing now. 

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/CEDE5043-E208-4A2D-A169-5B14D95A1EDA.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/CEDE5043-E208-4A2D-A169-5B14D95A1EDA.jpg.html)(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/5E51B6E2-DF90-4023-BDBA-135FC44EB2DB.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/5E51B6E2-DF90-4023-BDBA-135FC44EB2DB.jpg.html)

The comparison of the two is like night and day.  The welds on the ebay elbow look like doodie and the Tomei's look like a perfect stack of shiny dimes.  I guess it does make sense to shell out the funtickets for better quality sometimes. 
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 04:18:03 PM / 04-Dec-13
Today I decided to re-spray my engine bay since the weather was nice for a change. The first coat was just like before so it looks like I'll just have to live with the textured finish because I'm not about to sand it down again. Besides rustbullet isn't cheap. It's about time to see if the first coat is dry. If so then the bay will be ready for the wiring harness in about 5 days. ThTs about how long it should take to cure properly. I guess I'm just not cut out to be a paint and body man. Oh well I figure the RB will be a couple of steps up from a rattle can anyway.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:57:09 AM / 06-Dec-13
A shot of my makeshift paint booth
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/9BD6967C-1553-40C7-9ED2-F16FC556F870.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/9BD6967C-1553-40C7-9ED2-F16FC556F870.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/AFF604FF-D1C4-4C84-81A2-0B4077A73732.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/AFF604FF-D1C4-4C84-81A2-0B4077A73732.jpg.html)
Last coat is on waiting to cure
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/5EA4A59B-23CF-4947-ABA7-D3B15CDD0D89.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/5EA4A59B-23CF-4947-ABA7-D3B15CDD0D89.jpg.html)
A close-up of the finish
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/66A933CE-D9E2-4710-94FE-CE1D027E8D95.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/66A933CE-D9E2-4710-94FE-CE1D027E8D95.jpg.html)

Next:

Re-wrap and install the body / engine harnesses
work out a few more hoses on the intake side for the throttle body and whatnot
Install new water temp sensor and gauge sensor
Install water neck on the exhaust side
Oil dip stick and tube
Figure out what to do with this valve cover
Run the fuel lines and filter
Install the turbo elbow
Drop this ish in!

Damn, I still have a lot of work to do!


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Had some RB left over so I did the front sway bar
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F6997919-6D98-4DA4-A3C4-9B413D986B54.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/F6997919-6D98-4DA4-A3C4-9B413D986B54.jpg.html)
Came out much better than the bay IMO
Too bad I finally figured out how to spray this stuff once I did this, Oh well no turning back now! 
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: IggyEGuana on 01:01:34 AM / 07-Dec-13
super pro paint booth. pretty much how i'm gonna do it. and for the valve cover

FULL POLISH

it'll pop so hard with the bay color
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:34:01 AM / 14-Dec-13
super pro paint booth. pretty much how i'm gonna do it. and for the valve cover

FULL POLISH

it'll pop so hard with the bay color

Yeah I think so too. Now I just gotta get a fire under my friends ass to finish up the polish job on my other valve cover. This guy is a perfectionist. I can't really complain he's doing it for free.  The one I have sitting on the motor now is a spare. I may have to paint it up if I don't get the other one back in time for the first fire up.

I started cleaning up the harness the other day.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/Mobile%20Uploads/2013-12/3C4AE505-D7AD-4F70-9ED4-1463E0B068D2.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2013-12/3C4AE505-D7AD-4F70-9ED4-1463E0B068D2.jpg.html)

I bought this wire wrap from work and tried to get an idea of how it was going to fit.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/823A6638-5D81-4A78-A8C2-C38AE212CEBF.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/823A6638-5D81-4A78-A8C2-C38AE212CEBF.jpg.html)

It fits like a glove so it looks like I won't need many zip ties.
It should turn out nice and clean!
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/C46090B9-3406-4EBD-A99A-3C036C342C8A.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/C46090B9-3406-4EBD-A99A-3C036C342C8A.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 02:00:30 PM / 15-Dec-13
That braided loom looks so much better than the shitty plastic loom. Good choice
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 06:38:41 PM / 07-Jan-14
Been awhile since I've touched the car. I was supposed to get some stuff done today since the holidays had me tied up with family. Unfortunately temps here have been in the teens today so even my "bat mobile" booster style garage heater won't keep the garage warm enough.  I did take off all the plastic around the bay so now I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to run the harness.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F42B7008-0973-4B45-857E-7567EEE4DEFA.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/F42B7008-0973-4B45-857E-7567EEE4DEFA.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/334A6BB2-762D-4117-AFDF-3889AE0AC60F.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/334A6BB2-762D-4117-AFDF-3889AE0AC60F.jpg.html)

I really don't want to run it over the engine. I'd like it to be cleaner without actually trying to attemp a full-on wire tuck. 

I finally found a OEM fuel rail and hard line on ebay for 8 bucks! (mine was whooped!) Two more hoses and the engine is finally ready to go in.  I guess I'll install the injectors and rail once the motors in.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/0E29301B-5643-4BB9-83E2-CC33D256CDD8.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/0E29301B-5643-4BB9-83E2-CC33D256CDD8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: vegasS12 on 12:11:30 PM / 17-Jan-14
GEEZ! I can't believe I haven't followed this thread.
Great work my friend keep it up!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:57:13 AM / 18-Jan-14
Thanks Vegas. Your build is quite epic.


Well the pressure is on! My wife got a new position / transfer to Charlotte NC so I have to get the motor in and running by the middle of March.  I don't care much about leaving my job because they're a bunch off asshats anyway. I've been wanting to start my own business for a while now anyway so now would be a great time.

Anyway since my last post I got a couple more little things done in my spare time.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/56ED09F9-0F2C-400E-88E9-A9ADCE9B092A.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/56ED09F9-0F2C-400E-88E9-A9ADCE9B092A.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/9A8B1B86-5871-497E-86AB-B6F7199EB694.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/9A8B1B86-5871-497E-86AB-B6F7199EB694.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/573A1666-0C72-4718-B2D3-CF9E9B98BC8B.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/573A1666-0C72-4718-B2D3-CF9E9B98BC8B.jpg.html)

Now I gotta start cleaning up the rats nest once I finalize how I'm gonna route everything

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B85231E2-1A4B-4C2B-B6E3-329881862A9A.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/B85231E2-1A4B-4C2B-B6E3-329881862A9A.jpg.html)
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Once I got the clutch master cylinder back in I realized that I'm gonna need some new plastic clips that hold the lines to the firewall.  I tried to order some from a few places on ebay and a couple of stealerships but not one of them can actually come up with the parts. So I'm going to try and get a hold of some s13 / s14 clips and compare them to the old broken ones. I will be passing a Nissan dealer today in Austel GA that might have them but I haven't had good luck with their parts dept. in the past.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/43D4BF11-7814-44D4-9CCB-567B41281749.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/43D4BF11-7814-44D4-9CCB-567B41281749.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 01:26:27 AM / 19-Jan-14
Looking good bro can't wait to see the final results when it's all together!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: s12rich on 03:39:07 PM / 19-Jan-14
another s12 going east coast F*$k Yeah!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 06:02:40 AM / 26-Jan-14
Finally got around to the throttle body water lines. 
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B2C543E5-3FAD-4DEF-938A-BD498CBD39F2.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/B2C543E5-3FAD-4DEF-938A-BD498CBD39F2.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/BD5ABA8C-E535-4E8B-ABA1-6B75B4C79E98.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/BD5ABA8C-E535-4E8B-ABA1-6B75B4C79E98.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/6DD19C46-D8F1-4A1A-8EE3-941B959BDD5C.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/6DD19C46-D8F1-4A1A-8EE3-941B959BDD5C.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/9129ACB4-4F7B-4BB2-8321-B4C58F8182D4.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/9129ACB4-4F7B-4BB2-8321-B4C58F8182D4.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B6C9FDB2-7B3A-48F5-BA1B-4A81B0A15E11.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/B6C9FDB2-7B3A-48F5-BA1B-4A81B0A15E11.jpg.html)

I ran out of time....again so I didn't get to finish up the last line althought I might make the lower line longer anyway. I don't think I'm happy with the tight curve it's making the way it is.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: superDorifto on 07:37:45 AM / 26-Jan-14
I think I remade my coolant lines on my ka-t 2-3 times each.  No one is ever going to look at them, but I wasnt happy.  For what it's worth I think they look good.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 06:52:52 PM / 27-Jan-14
I think I remade my coolant lines on my ka-t 2-3 times each.  No one is ever going to look at them, but I wasnt happy.  For what it's worth I think they look good.
Quote

Thanks for the second opinion.  I needed that!  Might try to finish up the other one tonight.  I also picked up some new vaccuum hose today so I'm hoping to get a few of those done too.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:13:47 PM / 29-Jan-14
Last throttle body water line done:
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/1E5AAA0F-860E-498C-AC3F-33F946F01D54.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/1E5AAA0F-860E-498C-AC3F-33F946F01D54.jpg.html)
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Next is vacuum lines.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:06:10 PM / 04-Feb-14
Been busy getting my house ready to go on the market. Two more days of work left and all my free time will be packing up the garage and finishing the rest of the build... Well at least enough of it to get it running.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: Infinimax96 on 10:50:13 PM / 04-Feb-14
what are you using to sleeve those hoses? Looks amazing. I'd like to do something like this when I clean up my engine bay.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: Jamaican_Drifta on 12:10:54 PM / 05-Feb-14
Nice, this project is coming together like sex looking real good man love to see more S12s getting restored like this.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:01:02 AM / 07-Feb-14

what are you using to sleeve those hoses? Looks amazing. I'd like to do something like this when I clean up my engine bay.
Thanks!  They aren't sleeved though. They're  actually 6AN (5/16") Summit Racing premium hoses. I'm using it for all my 5/16" stuff that can be seen including most of the fuel lines in the engine bay.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 07:48:08 AM / 25-Feb-14
This moving stuff has consumed all of my time so I've had zero time to work on the car. Looks like all I'll have time for now is getting the suspension and brakes back together so it'll be easier to get it on a trailer.  I'm planning on getting the motor in too but it's. It looking to promising at this point so it looks like the 12 may be in storage for about 5 or so months while the new house is being built. Oh well looks like one more summer without my car.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:03:45 PM / 04-Mar-14
I'm just about all packed up for the move
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/32356231-2220-4983-AC72-D93972B47479.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/32356231-2220-4983-AC72-D93972B47479.jpg.html)

In the meantime I put the brake booster and master back in along with all the lines. This way it'll be a little easier getting the car on and off the trailer.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/0A15E094-75D8-47FB-B6C0-9F0B972B5A7E.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/0A15E094-75D8-47FB-B6C0-9F0B972B5A7E.jpg.html)

And the motor mounts.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/2C1D55E4-EADD-47E8-83CC-27C6E21BFE89.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/2C1D55E4-EADD-47E8-83CC-27C6E21BFE89.jpg.html)

Looks like I'm gonna have to reuse the brake line clips since I can't find any new ones.
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I had to pull off the turbo and manifold in order to fix a stripped out stud. I had been putting it off for a while so I just went ahead and got it out of the way. It was so f'd up I had to install a helicoil. I don't know why but helicoils used to freak me out but since I've put so many in this motor I've had lots of practice.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/5043F972-FA98-4A0A-8A9C-59DFFC45DD77.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/5043F972-FA98-4A0A-8A9C-59DFFC45DD77.jpg.html)

All done and torqued to spec.
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Next I need to install the check valve for the brake booster and bleed the system then she should be ready for the trailer.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:54:22 AM / 07-Mar-14
Turns out I couldn't find anything to cap off the check valve so I couldn't  bleed the brakes.  Oh well my friend is coming to pick up the car either today or tomorrow. 
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Can't wait to fire this $hit up!
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Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 10:49:15 AM / 09-Mar-14
Looking nice, makes me wish I painted my manifolds. Really makes it look a lot cleaner
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:23:03 PM / 06-Jun-14
Small update...my freakin' seats finally came in after 3 months.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/321FE132-8325-43A6-8DAA-CAF805C188AD.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/321FE132-8325-43A6-8DAA-CAF805C188AD.jpg.html)

And we got the closing date locked in for the end of August on the new house. Here's where my twelve will call home from now on once it's done.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/66C7C2A0-8DBE-482F-ADAC-1CC3DA437CAA.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/66C7C2A0-8DBE-482F-ADAC-1CC3DA437CAA.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/C926B399-B726-49EB-BC5A-1FF4DDD3C4EF.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/C926B399-B726-49EB-BC5A-1FF4DDD3C4EF.jpg.html)

In fact I thought about documenting my garage / shop build and setup in this thread.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 12:43:33 AM / 08-Jun-14
Whats the third mishimoto box for in the hatch?
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 07:10:08 AM / 09-Jun-14
If you mean the small box, its the rad hoses. The other big box is the aluminum fan shroud kit.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: Van_Denton on 02:54:43 AM / 26-Jun-14
just read whole thread, this is going to be killer! subscribed!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:36:48 PM / 26-Jun-14
just read whole thread, this is going to be killer! subscribed!

Thanks for the compliment Van!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:18:42 AM / 07-Jul-14
No new updates. Been trying to sell my daily to buy a truck / tow rig.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 12:26:19 AM / 13-Jul-14
I didn't know they had rad hoses or I would of bought them as well I got the rad and fans with shroud
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:37:48 PM / 13-Jul-14
I didn't know they had rad hoses or I would of bought them as well I got the rad and fans with shroud
Yup. I got the whole mishimoto cooling system setup. I almost got the aluminum top hose kit but it costs more than the silicone hoses. Besides, the aluminum hose doesn't look that great installed.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 12:22:16 AM / 14-Jul-14
Makes sense. I gotta say the mishimoto set up is nice and with the 115 - 120 degree out here it holds up pretty fucking well and never get past the halfway mark.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 04:48:35 PM / 14-Jul-14
Awesome that's good to know.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 04:07:48 PM / 03-Jan-15
It's been a long time since I've updated this thread. The move to Charlotte has been crazy along with my new job. The 12 is still in Atlanta and I've since sold my daily driven GS for a Silverado. Unfortunately some chick in a SUV decided to try texting and driving simultaneously and ended up causing a four car accident resulting in a smashed up roll pan for me and my truck. Not to mention damage to the bed. So no trailer hitch. No trailer. No 12. In the meantime though, I'll be getting the lab ready for part 2 of my build.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/74ECF535-D1B4-4FCA-BF53-78C7745CE8DB.jpg)
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(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/1D5E28E8-173B-40B3-931E-D0F7E5591FFB.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/1D5E28E8-173B-40B3-931E-D0F7E5591FFB.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F8A90621-6C3D-4328-8F31-5A3EEB823115.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/F8A90621-6C3D-4328-8F31-5A3EEB823115.jpg.html)

If all goes as planned I'll be building my work bench tomorrow.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 10:55:28 PM / 09-Jan-15
Nice clean work space.
I need to clean mine
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 07:51:04 AM / 10-Jan-15
Nice clean work space.
I need to clean mine

Thanks Bro, my last garage was a pig sty! I could never find anything. I spent more time finding the right tool than working on my car!  This time I'm gonna do it right...everything in it's place and put back when finished. Labeled tool box drawers and whatnot. No more wasted frustration and energy. My workbench should be done tomorrow. I still have about 6 cuts to be ready to assemble this thing then I can add my vise and bench grinder. After all that I'll start organizing all my tools again.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 01:56:05 PM / 10-Jan-15
Nice, that's the way to do it. Always looking for things sucks. I'm re organizing my shop once my car leaves for a cage
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:10:22 AM / 26-Mar-15
Built my work bench
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/1DB378E9-C8A5-4D23-A7BD-F31D3B87EA8E.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/1DB378E9-C8A5-4D23-A7BD-F31D3B87EA8E.jpg.html)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/932FCFAA-90DF-43D3-B6AD-E8CB5C6849B8.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/932FCFAA-90DF-43D3-B6AD-E8CB5C6849B8.jpg.html)

And added some much needed lighting
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/D2FCEAA8-0103-4FBA-8847-A668D3CD43E7.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/D2FCEAA8-0103-4FBA-8847-A668D3CD43E7.jpg.html)

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/0DCD8241-F005-407B-8A00-63DA5E28954E.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/0DCD8241-F005-407B-8A00-63DA5E28954E.jpg.html)

Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:53:08 PM / 05-May-15
At last a proper update! Now that my truck is out of the body shop, conventions, honey-do list activities  and the lack of a must-attend car show, I finally had a hot minute to install the trailer hitch. With that said, the next logical move before anything changed was to make the 4 hour trip to Atlanta to bring the s12 back to Charlotte.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/50F0AD08-C70A-4D55-BF67-F5E5A9476C79.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/50F0AD08-C70A-4D55-BF67-
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(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/8BB34F5D-CB10-4533-8402-F65245DC941E.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/8BB34F5D-CB10-4533-8402-F65245DC941E.jpg.html)

So after eight hours of driving and one 5 hour energy I made it back home last night with the shell in tow. I was able to back the trailer up close enough to the garage to roll the car right into it's new spot using the e-brake.

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The new garage is small compared to the last one so I'll have get everything around the car off the floor in order to have room to work. Can't wait to get started again!
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Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: IggyEGuana on 09:05:47 PM / 05-May-15
awesome! saw your post on FB. nice to put a face with a club s12 name
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: rednucleus on 09:25:15 PM / 05-May-15
Congrats! The worst small garage in the world is far better than the best biggest driveway - esp in the rain!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 06:52:49 AM / 06-May-15
Thanks guys! I'm so ready to get started I can't even concentrate at work. I need to snap out of it though, I have a car show to plan.
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Congrats! The worst small garage in the world is far better than the best biggest driveway - esp in the rain!

Indeed sir, indeed.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 11:34:27 PM / 06-May-15
Glad to see you got it back in the garage. Can't wait to see some progress
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:41:21 AM / 09-May-15
awesome! saw your post on FB. nice to put a face with a club s12 name

Yeah, If I could I would just change my screen name to my real name on here. Not really feeling the whole S12 in the name thing anymore.  Oh well, it is what it is.
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Thanks Guys!  I'm Itching to get back to work on it. I'm gonna have to back track a little on some of the prep because the car was sitting so long but it shouldn't take to long. I'm just gonna have to commit an hour or two every night or so to get this thing done!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:45:56 PM / 20-May-15
Decided to take off the upper and lower pans tonight to fix a problem I've been putting off.  I ended up going too far into the upper pan when I had to drill a hole for a helicoil and over compensated when I was putting the motor together. Instead I found a puddle of assembly lube at the bottom of the engine bag.

I'm not sure where it's coming from so I didn't want to pull anything off yet until I find the leak. I cleaned it off and hopefully I'll get a drip tomorrow from wherever the problem is. It's pretty odd since the pan is brand new. Thought it might have been that lower pan bolt hole I made for the helicoil but there wasn't any oil around the bolt holes. I still want to get that hole welded up to avoid any stupid leaks later on.

In other news, it looks like I'm gonna have some touch up to do in the engine bay. It looks like crap from sitting outside for a couple months. Note to self; Rust bullet does not like rain.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/1243D791-6AD4-4994-BF0E-E2B1AA048106.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/1243D791-6AD4-4994-BF0E-E2B1AA048106.jpg.html)

The finish is pitting in some areas and its driving me crazy so I thought about trying to match up the rust bullet and rattle can the whole thing because Rust bullet ain't cheap! Besides I just want this done already and I'm not about to set up another makeshift paint both again. I don't know though I may end up getting a pint of RB and use a brush for the touch up. Who knows I'm tired.
Anyway I'm waiting for some more goodies to come in the mail. I'll update when they get in and hopefully I will have figured out where this assembly oil is coming from.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: Modulus Two on 08:16:21 AM / 21-May-15
That bay is looking great!
I'm thinking of doing something similar in the winter time.
I just want to get the engine in and running right now while there's still some summer left to drive.
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:46:13 PM / 22-May-15
Thanks Modulus! I'm a perfectionist which is probably why this build is taking so long.

Turns out the assembly lube was in the bottom of the bag when the valve cover was off, etc. dodged a bullet!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:33:04 AM / 26-May-15
Got a few more goodies from the UPS guy on Friday. Not really neccecites, these were more "wants" than anything else. Although I guess they do serve their own purpose.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/D33F668E-9A55-403E-A2AF-8D30282B6DB9.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/D33F668E-9A55-403E-A2AF-8D30282B6DB9.jpg.html)

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After all, I sell performance parts for a living. I can't have some pink ricer kid come to one of my cruise ins and show me up lol!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 11:40:15 AM / 26-May-15
Those circuit sports lines look pretty good. Never realized they were crimp in fittings
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 03:53:39 PM / 26-May-15
Those circuit sports lines look pretty good. Never realized they were crimp in fittings

That's one of the reasons I picked this kit. I figured the crimps would be a lot better than my ability to assemble my own hoses. The spin-on adapter kinda makes me a little uneasy. I would have preferred a Tomei style block.  I haven't heard of any horror stories so we'll see. The hoses in this kit  kinda deviate from the color scheme of my other ones on my engine but it is what it is.  Function over form right?...most of the time anyway.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:18:25 AM / 02-Jun-15
Installed my bling yesterday...
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/4D239D36-A2A4-495D-944B-20E4AAF300A7.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/4D239D36-A2A4-495D-944B-20E4AAF300A7.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/D26CA4E6-7B84-4F8C-B2EC-49946196D71D.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/D26CA4E6-7B84-4F8C-B2EC-49946196D71D.jpg.html)

Unfortunately that's all I had time for.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 05:07:51 PM / 02-Jun-15
As long as you keep chipping away at the to do list
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:44:19 AM / 13-Jul-15
Finally put my tools in some type of order.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F51D5A99-0B9E-4478-91EC-2AC15A013EBF.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/F51D5A99-0B9E-4478-91EC-2AC15A013EBF.jpg.html)
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Wasting time trying to find the right tool was killing my productivity.
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Set up the old desktop in my shop area to make accessing Sterling's swap guide a lot easier haha!
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And picked up some colored wire for the harness extension. I was about to just get some trailer wiring, but this kit was about $5 more on eBay. Figured the colors would make things easier. I've been debating some level of tuck to clean up the wiring clutter but that'll take way too long. I'll probably just do what Sterling did to Arro's and leave it at that.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/8F859CFB-87B5-4C1B-9FB8-C71CADC68059.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/8F859CFB-87B5-4C1B-9FB8-C71CADC68059.jpg.html)
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The wife and kid will be out of town next week so I should be able to get a lot done after I get off work.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 01:45:51 PM / 05-Oct-15
I finally made a little time today to get started on a couple of things that have been bothering me. A hole I made accidentally when installing a heli coil in the upper oil pan is hopefully sorted. Then I managed to tweak my lower pan trying to free it. I hammered it back as best I could so hopefully I didn't create another potential leak.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F511D3AF-1E80-4C9B-9D5D-0646B465EA7C.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/F511D3AF-1E80-4C9B-9D5D-0646B465EA7C.jpg.html)

That hole on the bottom right shouldn't go all the way through so I patched it.

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/FED23901-8D09-40EA-9483-30C177AE3009.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/FED23901-8D09-40EA-9483-30C177AE3009.jpg.html)
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I got bored with the technical bits so I decided to test fit my steering wheel.

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It's got this cool removable center garnish.

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In the move my engine mounts came up missing. So it looks like new mounts are in my future. So tired of dropping unnecessary cash on this project. I don't mind buying things I want (those rare times when I have extra cash) but buying basic stuff twice sux! It's really starting to get annoying. I just want to drive my car already! I gotta move my ass on this before I
loose interest.

Anybody ever use JGS tools mounts? KA and SR mounts are exactly the same right? And why are these places online selling OEM style KA mounts with the same part number for the left and right? I always thought L/R were slightly different.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 08:51:02 PM / 05-Oct-15
Ka/sr are the same. I have s13 cs mounts in mine
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: SchizophrenicMC on 09:18:47 PM / 05-Oct-15
Like D-sport said, KA and SR mounts are identical, both to each other, and with respect to left and right, which is why both engines are slightly tilted in the engine bay. CA mounts are slightly different, and aren't strictly compatible with KA/SR mounts. Which is why the CA is slightly tilted in the engine bay.

Nissan, it seems, isn't a fan of level engines.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:21:01 AM / 06-Oct-15
When I put the first set on the cross member I just matched them up by the engraved markings. That's what made me think there was a slight difference. I thought  one side had more rubber that the other. But if they're the same then any mounts for a KA should be fine left or right are interchangeable then? I just need something. I don't really want solids or polys. This is a second DD and the wife will drive it too so I'm considering getting some oems off ebay or the rubber version of these toward the bottom of the page: 

http://www.jgstools.com/turbo/mms.jpg

What do guys think?
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: SchizophrenicMC on 09:15:59 PM / 06-Oct-15
Just get the Nismo KA/SR mounts. They're the product of actual materials engineering, which makes them simultaneously stiff against engine torque and soft against engine vibration. Most engine mounts, you get one or the other, because that's not a mechanical design problem, it's a chemical design problem, and small aftermarket companies don't have the budgets to do materials engineering.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 12:41:02 AM / 07-Oct-15
only thing I don't like is the steering wheel. Not a fan of the wood grain look in our cars, but that's just me! Keep pushing dude you'll get there!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:36:56 AM / 08-Oct-15
Thanks Bro. The steering wheel is sort of a sentimental thing. Good to see you're still around Sideways!  You still have the CA18DET?
 SchizophrenicMC, I'm gonna quit whining and get some NISMO mounts. They're actually cheaper than new OEMs.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 05:10:28 PM / 08-Oct-15
Wondering has my old car but i have another one lined up with an 18det!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:20:10 PM / 08-Oct-15
Wondering has my old car but i have another one lined up with an 18det!
Sweet! Can't wait to see it.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: Cajun1guy on 10:39:53 PM / 08-Oct-15
Great to hear Sideways! I knew you would get back on track. How's the little lady doing? In good health we hope!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 02:33:19 PM / 11-Oct-15
She doing better than she was, Thanks for asking!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 01:32:09 PM / 31-Dec-15
Ok back again. This time with more than enough time on my hands since I got laid off from work. In the meantime I've managed to get the engine mounts in place for the second time since my old mounts came up missing in the move so I ended up getting some Nismos a few months ago.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/FD3AAF98-4A4E-4203-BD7A-EC011A1FCFB1_1.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/FD3AAF98-4A4E-4203-BD7A-EC011A1FCFB1_1.jpg.html)

Next I just need to get the oil pan back on and finally get down to harbor freight to pick up my engine hoist. Clutch, flywheel, mate the tranny and then I can set the engine into place. It's on!
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 07:33:51 AM / 01-Feb-16
Well, I got the oil pan all buttoned up and decided to clean up the firewall with some new brake line clips. The dealer could only source a couple of them (most are no longer available). The ones pictures are from the s13 or s14 and were referenced from old s12 part numbers. They don't fit perfectly like the original clips but they work. Notice that they only have provisions for three lines instead of four. The fourth line being the evap canister which I think I will relocate elsewhere in the engine bay without the OEM hardline. I still need to replace a couple more clips on the frame rail that lead to the front calipers.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/54D7C93D-3690-4EEC-BA17-E15BA6CEC471.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/54D7C93D-3690-4EEC-BA17-E15BA6CEC471.jpg.html)
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While the engine is still out, I replaced the factory power steering high pressure hard line and hose with a steel 14x1.5mm adapter to 6AN line. This will mate up to a -6 banjo bolt on the PS pump. This saves me from having to worry about what line to use on the SR pump and it looks cleaner too.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/15C8F876-7FAF-481F-A0CF-9FBC064FD320.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/15C8F876-7FAF-481F-A0CF-9FBC064FD320.jpg.html)
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Initially I was going to use the -10 oil return outlet flange I had when the s15 turbo was on my 18ET and just make a new line to the block fitting but the orientation of the outlet in relation to the block is awkward. I had to get a ISR drain pipe to make it work. I didn't want to spend 40 bucks on the OEM rubber hose so I went to NAPA and bought a foot of 5/8" 2-ply oil resistant hose for $4 and wrapped it in some left over DEI gold heat resistant wrap I used on the brake line heat shield.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F38F2BBC-990A-4CF2-B6F1-69DF4C401F7B.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/F38F2BBC-990A-4CF2-B6F1-69DF4C401F7B.jpg.html)
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Here's the heat shield.
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While waiting for pressure plate bolts to come in I changed the rear transmission oil seal. I removed the old one and used it along with a block of wood to tap it in as far as the outer lip. Then I used an old output shaft holder I got from a new 350z transmission when I worked at the dealer. I think they were used to hold the shaft in place and protect it from damage during shipping. The holder along with the old seal allowed me to tap it all the way the way in.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/DADE2C7E-1C76-493D-9FA0-6E71CA769E6D.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/DADE2C7E-1C76-493D-9FA0-6E71CA769E6D.jpg.html)
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I got around to finishing the flywheel access cover. I still need to trim it a little at the bottom though. It's just some carbon fiber scrap with a couple bolt holes. It was laying around so I figured I'd use it. The peice was so small I wouldn't have been able to use it for anything else.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/9FF8FF6A-E41C-4AF8-8DE8-5EB5BC05ACBC.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/9FF8FF6A-E41C-4AF8-8DE8-5EB5BC05ACBC.jpg.html)


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I finally got the engine off the stand. What a PITA when your working alone.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B2602AAF-9B18-4F76-827E-44C4829162D2.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/B2602AAF-9B18-4F76-827E-44C4829162D2.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/67FDC3E7-C714-4724-8AA2-E9AC1C2CF92E.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/67FDC3E7-C714-4724-8AA2-E9AC1C2CF92E.jpg.html)

Note to self: find better lift points when the engine and trans go in! I'm so used to lift brackets. Need to make some.
I think I'm gonna use a third strap for leverage.
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The pilot bushing was destroyed but the tools I rented from the zone worked great.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/B15A1936-E606-4169-A1BB-0D364CA4CAC9.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/B15A1936-E606-4169-A1BB-0D364CA4CAC9.jpg.html)
It didn't come peacefully though. It took a few tries and I had to dig out some pieces.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/5E0DD01A-70D9-4CE1-8DAE-6169A9D2D6F5.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/5E0DD01A-70D9-4CE1-8DAE-6169A9D2D6F5.jpg.html)

Installed the new bushing per the FSM and cleaned up the face of the crank as much as I could.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/8072ABB3-C301-4D8C-A65F-8DA15D79FA5B_2.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/8072ABB3-C301-4D8C-A65F-8DA15D79FA5B_2.jpg.html)

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Next the fun stuff!
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Cleaned up the flywheel with brake cleaner and torqued it down to ARP specs. I used the Ford 4.6 L bolts for the added length and the fact that ARP didn't make FW bolts for the SR when I bought these.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/8DB7ED81-7D14-4D41-B791-C32CC43F6D69.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/8DB7ED81-7D14-4D41-B791-C32CC43F6D69.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/9EF6B256-1F70-4573-9628-2A5DB71A62AA_2.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/9EF6B256-1F70-4573-9628-2A5DB71A62AA_2.jpg.html)
I kept losing my place when torquing down the bolts so I numbered them. So much easier when you don't have anybody holding the pry bar for you.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/385637BA-6717-469B-99C7-C317BF013C8D.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/385637BA-6717-469B-99C7-C317BF013C8D.jpg.html)


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Clutch disc on deck
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Pressure plate installed with ARP bolts made for the RB26. I didn't want to chance reusing the old bolts. These are the exact same underhead length but cost a lot less than OEMs. Plus you get the washers too.
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I had to order a new release bearing holder and spring. Now I just need to source a clutch fork and the transmission can get bolted to the engine.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: D-sport S12 on 07:39:16 PM / 01-Feb-16
What I did to hold the flywheel was using a small piece of chain and bolt it to the block and flywheel. Worked awesome since I was doing it alone aswell
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 03:16:03 PM / 02-Feb-16
Hmm I never thought of that. I could have used one of the 12mm tranny bolts and and one of the old PP bolts. I guess I'm just trying to get it done. I did try using a left over bracket but I couldn't get the holes to line up.
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You should have seen me Jesse. I was spread out over top of the engine with one hand on the pry bar and the other on the torque wrench lol! I wish I somebody was there to get some snaps! It was awkward to say the least but it worked. Thats why I numbered the bolts because I didn't want to have to think about which one was next. I was way too worried about the pry bar slipping.
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I just got my release sleeve and retainer spring. When I ordered them form Amazon I thought they were run of the mill aftermarket replacements but they eneded up being OEM!

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/Mobile%20Uploads/8D3B8038-49EB-480F-9A99-62B169B97761.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/Mobile%20Uploads/8D3B8038-49EB-480F-9A99-62B169B97761.jpg.html)

All I need now is a clutch fork! So close!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: my12 on 03:43:29 PM / 03-Feb-16
So Nice! Can't wait to see on the road.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: Redneck on 12:01:36 AM / 04-Feb-16
Just got done going through this whole build thread and...wow. This thing is gonna be sick when it is done. Love your s12 too, the black on black exterior/interior combo is awesome and from what I have seen pretty rare as well. Soooo wish I had black interior but I got stuck with the blue interior. Your a lucky guy haha. Also, it looks like you used the B tranny with the C tranny bell housing? I did the same trick too so I didn't have to cut up the center console after installing my ka-de (or make a new trans mount) but am curious how it handles all that extra sr power once you get it going. Looking forward to seeing you get this on the road soon!
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 08:14:02 PM / 06-Feb-16
Just got done going through this whole build thread and...wow. This thing is gonna be sick when it is done. Love your s12 too, the black on black exterior/interior combo is awesome and from what I have seen pretty rare as well. Soooo wish I had black interior but I got stuck with the blue interior. Your a lucky guy haha. Also, it looks like you used the B tranny with the C tranny bell housing? I did the same trick too so I didn't have to cut up the center console after installing my ka-de (or make a new trans mount) but am curious how it handles all that extra sr power once you get it going. Looking forward to seeing you get this on the road soon!

Thanks Red! Took me a while to find this color combo. I used to think bk w/ bk interior was a unicorn! As far as the the tranny I'm actually using a C trans with the SR bell housing. I'm pretty sure I'll have to make a custom trans mount but I won't have to cut the floor. Other than the fact that they're almost 30 years old, I'm not sure why people think the C trans is so much weaker than S13 transmissions. From what I can tell they are virtually the same internally just shorter. Hopefully I'll have my clutch fork and retainer spring by the end of next week. 
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Post by: Redneck on 09:39:35 PM / 06-Feb-16
As far as the the tranny I'm actually using a C trans with the SR bell housing. I'm pretty sure I'll have to make a custom trans mount but I won't have to cut the floor. Other than the fact that they're almost 30 years old, I'm not sure why people think the C trans is so much weaker than S13 transmissions. From what I can tell they are virtually the same internally just shorter.

Yeah I wasn't sure if you were using the B trans or C trans with your SR housing since you have an 86 and that was the weird crossover year they went from the B to C tranny. The s12 C trans, like you said, internally is the same as the s13 trans so your solid. Plus this build is way to nice for you to be rocking the inferior B tranny  :laugh:
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:50:55 PM / 08-Feb-16
Yeah Red no way I'd use the B trans. I got rid of that when I sold the CA18.

I was bored the other day and put the heat shield on.
Ehh, could have left the heat tape off but it's on there now. I spent most of the day trying to find the right screws though. I wish I would have been more organized with the fasteners. Oh well.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/6AC9D664-133A-4646-9D04-D5A40B4DC150.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/6AC9D664-133A-4646-9D04-D5A40B4DC150.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 01:35:29 PM / 12-Feb-16
Nice Progress! Looks good what's the time frame look like on it running?
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 07:55:31 PM / 12-Feb-16
No time frame. It seems like every time I set a deadline something comes up so I'm just trying to get done as much as possible while I'm looking for a job so hopefully sooner than later.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 12:53:20 PM / 13-Feb-16
That makes sense, I totally understand lol life happens whenever we try to plan something... I got a new project myself as well go check it out it's called Project Phoenix...
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 03:03:14 PM / 03-Mar-16
It's been a couple weeks but I've gotten a lot done. I finally got ahold of a clutch release fork. Man, I never thought it was going to be this hard to find one of these things. I figured I could find one used but I couldn't find one anywhere. Not on any forums, FB, I mean nowhere. I eneded up breaking down and ordering one from Nissan along with the retainer clip and a couple more needed brake line clips.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/BDDC7B1C-F559-4269-9D63-B65D4B0E3514_1.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/BDDC7B1C-F559-4269-9D63-B65D4B0E3514_1.jpg.html)

So with that it was time to mate the C trans/SR bell housing combo to the engine. Since I've got a slipped disk I often have to get creative when dealing with heavy stuff so I came up with the idea to use my relatively new creeper to get the transmission close enough to bolt up. It worked great but I eneded up ripping the cushion. Oh well a small sacrifice for a good end result.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/D4339F5E-2CE0-43A6-8F4D-E1111C5CD425.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/D4339F5E-2CE0-43A6-8F4D-E1111C5CD425.jpg.html)

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Ready to go in.
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Getting into position.
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The toughest part was getting the trans at the right angle so I had to force the end of the case down into the tunnel area.
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And then once I found the sweet spot between the transmission and lower oil pan I had to raise it back up and down again to just kiss the radiator support. Once there I could slide it forward toward the tunnel, clear the lower pan and it was time to line up the engine mounts. I left the mounts loose so they'd be easier to reposition once the engine was in place.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/40BCB1B9-7DEA-4382-8E62-864C1897632E.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/40BCB1B9-7DEA-4382-8E62-864C1897632E.jpg.html)
After some wiggling and finessing it was in!
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Success! I can't believe it's in! I took the rest of the day to just look at it actually sitting in the engine bay.
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Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: S12_Lifer on 07:09:32 PM / 03-Mar-16
Absolutely mesmerizing.  Job well done on your project!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: iceageg on 07:13:17 PM / 03-Mar-16
WIN!!!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: weitrhino on 09:15:35 AM / 04-Mar-16
Yeah, huge win! Let me know when you can come over to my place and do the same things.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 09:30:15 AM / 04-Mar-16
Filled up the tranny with 4-1/4 pints (2.125 quarts) of MT90.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/57CF8A74-6BDE-46EC-ACA8-34F786C7488E_1.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/57CF8A74-6BDE-46EC-ACA8-34F786C7488E_1.jpg.html)
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My plan is to use the lower half of the OEM shift lever and the too half of an eBay short shift lever that came with the s13 trans that came with the swap since aftermarket kits that have a top plate don't line up with the mounting holes in the C trans.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/BFA0134E-F1AC-4F92-B49B-631F7C279929.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/BFA0134E-F1AC-4F92-B49B-631F7C279929.jpg.html)
I did a test fit and the shifter height seems high for my tastes so I'm probably going to cut about an inch and a half off the bottom half.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/6DF13E90-5A84-4DF2-A487-6E2F5754D8F4.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/6DF13E90-5A84-4DF2-A487-6E2F5754D8F4.jpg.html)
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Yeah, huge win! Let me know when you can come over to my place and do the same things.
If You weren't so far away I'd take you up on that. Then you could help me finish mine! Besides I've got lots of time on my hands these days.
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Fabbed up a Keith Locklear Edition transmission crossmember.
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Added some washers instead of the rubber grommets from the OEM trans mount and some primer and paint to resist rust. Then after a few height adjustments I coated all the bolt heads and exposed threads with grease to reduce corrosion.
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Credit for the mount goes to Keith. Thanks for the help!
http://club-s12.org/retro4/index.php?topic=35964.0
Keith also helped me to realize that both the mk1 and mk2 front drive shafts are virtually the same. You just have to knock off the collar. I found that it's easier to do this with the drive shaft off the car (thx again Keith) since it's got a spot weld in each side. The dust collar is on the tail shaft of the C trans so this one had to come off to fit.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/F70E2CF7-DA14-46C7-921C-38D4CE76CA9A.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/F70E2CF7-DA14-46C7-921C-38D4CE76CA9A.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/9271B8B6-DBD2-45C7-91BF-6BA3E3385DEB.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/9271B8B6-DBD2-45C7-91BF-6BA3E3385DEB.jpg.html)
Mk1 left. Mk2 on the right. The removed collar is off to the side.
So with that information I decided to just use the mk1 front drive shaft so I won't have to worry about balancing issues. However when the center bearing takes a dump on this one I'll just swap in the mk2 piece since it's all nice and clean.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:01:35 AM / 28-Mar-16
If you were to look around my garage it may not look like I've done much lately but, I've been hard at work planning how I'm going to route the engine harness. Knowing that the bulk of it is on the right I layed out the SR harness on the engine. After visualizing what wires could be ran around on the drivers side through the the fender, I decided to drill a hole in the passenger side of the firewall. I measured the size of the grommet and drilled the hole to match. I looked at my options about a hundred times and figured this is by far the cleanest route with the least amount of harness in the engine bay without the hassle of trying to do a wire tuck and it will allow me to mount the ECM in the glovebox for easy access. 
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/65418D39-DAC6-426F-857A-FE021BFFFCF1.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/65418D39-DAC6-426F-857A-FE021BFFFCF1.jpg.html)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/2A6E172F-1AEE-45B3-9CEC-91F88CA0843F.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/2A6E172F-1AEE-45B3-9CEC-91F88CA0843F.jpg.html)
Then I moved the grommet further up the harness so that the ECM connector, ignitor chip and other EFI splices would run inside the car and back out the drivers side fender to the engine bay. The extended MAF and O2 sensor wiring will run through an existing hole next to the brake booster which ends up right where they need to be.
My finger is where the grommet used to be.
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/nine5ive/9C576EAC-35BA-4F1B-88CC-FBADD9FF1173.jpg) (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/nine5ive/media/9C576EAC-35BA-4F1B-88CC-FBADD9FF1173.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:33:46 AM / 13-Jul-16
Finally worked out the heater hoses and finalized the radiator placement. No pics yet tho. Stay tuned.
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 06:32:10 PM / 13-Jul-16
Is that a new trans? That thing is clean!
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:16:51 AM / 05-Aug-16
Nah bro. I just power washed it, primed and painted earlier in the build thread.
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 08:11:17 PM / 05-Aug-16
ahh I must've missed that...
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 10:16:46 AM / 13-May-17
Well, my family and I moved again. This time to Birmingham Al. So again the project was put on hold because of all the ins and outs of the move , a transfer with my job, a promotion and just life I'm just about ready to get this thing running! Since the last time I posted I've installed the new fuel pump, rail and finished up some wiring(I hope). I just have a few more boxes to unload  and some other things to put away in the garage. I did get to rebuild my workbench which is now a more usable 8 feet wide x 4 ft deep! Also bought a shop press for bearings and what not. Can't wait to get started!
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Post by: kelso840 on 11:54:07 AM / 13-May-17
Man, firing up your project car in your new house courtesy of a promotion is going to be one hell of a feeling.... Good for you dude.
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Post by: weitrhino on 12:46:16 PM / 13-May-17
I've been wondering what happened to you. Now I'm expecting regular progress reports........with pictures of course!
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Post by: Cajun1guy on 07:18:16 PM / 15-May-17
Hey, now your in Keith's territory, get together with him, he's  real good to know! Go check out Barber Motorsports Park as well, it's awesome.
Title: Re: My Build Story...The 12welve gets some Luv! (Project High Response)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 12:17:36 AM / 21-May-17
in for the updates!
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Post by: 8SixS12 on 12:17:34 PM / 13-Jan-18
Well, works been crazy! I’m pretty much a glorified baby sitter with a company car. Anyway I finally got started on the car again. I may have or continue the thread on Facebook since I’m having a hard time finding a free site that’ll host my pics. Photobucket is smoking that real good stuff for what they’re charging. Anyway the bumper is back off right now so I can start mounting the intercooler.  I’d like some advice from any of you that’s done it before with s13 piping.
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Post by: babybrother3294 on 02:17:54 AM / 27-Jun-18
how is this project going? would love to see progtress

u can post pictures to a facebook album and use the links to post pictures on here.