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Title: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: XortioN on 04:05:01 AM / 18-Nov-12
So let me give you guys a little introduction;

I'm from Belgium and 24 years old (or do I say young). I've been a Japanese car fan since I was about 14 years old and I've always been crazy about the AE86 (don't shoot me). About 6 months ago I had the opportunity to buy an original Nissan Silvia S12 (CA18ET engine) from my best friend. So that's exactly what I did :)

This car will get a full restoration and later on also a new engine (CA18DET is already sitting in my garage).

So now the pics (or it didn't happen):

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/foto%201.jpg)


Step 1: cleaning the car
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/afstomen/foto%201.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/afstomen/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/afstomen/foto%203.jpg)


Step 2: buying an engine
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/CA18DET/foto%202.jpg)

and putting it on an engine stand
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/CA18DET/foto%204.jpg)

and removing all the tubing etc.
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/CA18DET/foto%205.jpg)


The car is now sitting in a garage me and my nephew are hiring:
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/s12-garage.jpg)

The car in the back (Mercedes 170s) we'll also be restoring :)


Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: cutter67 on 07:08:15 AM / 18-Nov-12
nice car to start with just wondering what you had to pay for it
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 12:13:23 PM / 18-Nov-12
@Thx, Has quite some rust though. My friend bought it for around €1500 ~ €2000 (equals 1100 ~ 1500$), the price I paid for it was a real bargain so not really representative for its current value :P

So today I removed the front fender flares, the passenger side is damn rotten and ready for the junk jard. The other side was in pretty good condition! :)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/body/foto%201.jpg)

Underneath is a pretty solid body except for the underside, that has some holes and will need to be cut and welded. Don't worry about the fenders though, I've got a solution ready which I'll be picking up this week at one of the local JDM shops.

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/body/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/body/foto%203.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: cutter67 on 12:22:05 PM / 18-Nov-12
do you think you could take a picture of the turbo decal on the door and but a tape measue above it so we can tell the size of it i really like it
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 12:30:11 PM / 18-Nov-12
I'll do that this wednesday and post it here :)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: Fhu on 02:48:37 PM / 19-Nov-12
Salut XortioN
Jolie projet, un swap CA18DET ( Je suis entrain de faire le mien...)
Tu devrais trouver pas mal de pièce sur le forum France

Nice project with a CA18DET swapp (I'm swapping mine...)
You should find a lot of parts from the France forum

Ed
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: sunny1600 on 04:48:03 PM / 19-Nov-12
So you are getting a Grand Prix repro kit from the tuner shop in Belgium?

Where are you from in Belgium? I am from Eindhoven (Netherlands) just a little part from the Belgium border.
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 11:18:55 AM / 20-Nov-12
@Fhu, Thanks for the forum. I'm already a member there since a couple of weeks but haven't introduced my project there yet. But I'll do that one of these days! :)
Good to know that you're also swapping a CA18DET in your S12 (which looks very nice by the way, like the rims!).

@sunny1600, I'm indeed getting a repro Grand Prix kit :)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: VG30DETT on 08:11:49 PM / 20-Nov-12
oooooooh, gp kit and det swap. subscribed!
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 11:20:53 AM / 21-Nov-12
So I've picked up the body kit today but wasn't able to test fit it yet because a couple of bolts holding the front bumper are stuck (aka rotten :D):

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/body/foto%206.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/body/foto%207.jpg)


@cutter67, My nephew wasn't there so it was kinda hard to take some decent pictures while holding a tape measure against it. So i'll try to do that this weekend when we're both working on our cars.
I can tell you the sizes i've measured:

TURBO letters are 5cm high and 15cm wide.
The banner behind 'Turbo' is 9cm high. But as I said, i'll try to take some decent pictures this weekend.
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: cutter67 on 11:31:19 AM / 21-Nov-12
i dont think guys from europe should be able to post on here.....he ran down to his local speed shop and picked up a GP kit....i think they just post on the site just to tease us  :yes:

but great build going on cant wait to see how the kit fits
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: turbo-s12 on 02:01:47 PM / 21-Nov-12
^ +1
i dont even want to know what the shipping would be to get that gp kit here....
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: Fhu on 02:21:23 PM / 21-Nov-12
We found that
http://www.avb-sports.be/nissan/180sx-200sx-240sx/1984-1988/bodycomponents/bodykits/22427 (http://www.avb-sports.be/nissan/180sx-200sx-240sx/1984-1988/bodycomponents/bodykits/22427)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: cutter67 on 02:25:04 PM / 21-Nov-12
Fhu i have tried contacting them exchanged emails at first they gave me the price and i emailed back how did ythey want payment and when could they ship no response been a month. that is why i contacted you i was hoping i could pay someone to get me one and ship it for me
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: Jeremy A on 05:25:35 PM / 21-Nov-12
Oh my God that Grand Prix kit!  This is so tits!  It looks phenominal.  Really cool,  will this be the first kitted Grand Prix S12?
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: Prolowtone on 06:52:40 PM / 21-Nov-12
Fhu i have tried contacting them exchanged emails at first they gave me the price and i emailed back how did ythey want payment and when could they ship no response been a month.

I think my friend dkdsilver has the same problem. I sent him a link to it a while ago and they didnt get back to him
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 01:36:02 AM / 22-Nov-12
I've bought other stuff there before for my previous car (Honda Prelude) and always received answers. But as everyone already said, the problem is shipping costs.
He ships them from Poland to Belgium (at least that's what he told me) and that's why shipping to you guys would probably just make the kit too expensive :(

Reason why I made the decision is because he could lower the shipping costs for me since he also had to ship other stuff from that same guy (or girl?).
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: sunny1600 on 03:52:43 AM / 22-Nov-12
Oh my God that Grand Prix kit!  This is so tits!  It looks phenominal.  Really cool,  will this be the first kitted Grand Prix S12?

No there are several more. One of them is Shaun (s13eater) with a crazy FJ setup from the UK.

The owner of the shop told me that he had a Groupbuy going on with some S12 owners from the States. But that was months ago. I also don't like the way he commicates by PM, in my case he did respond but I didnt like the way he said things.

Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 03:21:35 PM / 24-Nov-12
So what did we do today:

- Removed the spoiler (cause it's a spunge!)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/24nov12/foto%201.jpg)

- And cleaned it

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/24nov12/foto%202.jpg)

- Then I removed the air intake

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/24nov12/foto%203.jpg)

- And cleaned it

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/24nov12/foto%204.jpg)

- And gave it a respray

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/24nov12/foto%205.jpg)

- Then I removed the front bumper, and one of the headlights, also removed battery, coolant reservoir and window-clean reservoir:
Removing the bumper was a real pain in the ass and took me 3 hours because off all the rusted bolts :o

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/24nov12/foto%206.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: silverton on 06:36:12 PM / 24-Nov-12
Very cool build!  I'm definitely keeping an eye on this.  I think I like the "injection" pinstriping just under the hatch lip more than the turbo sticker.
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: VG30DETT on 12:13:54 AM / 25-Nov-12
I want those tail lights! Why did we get the ones that Nissan found in the utility parts bins? Euro cars always had the best shit!
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 04:25:02 AM / 26-Nov-12
Very cool build!  I'm definitely keeping an eye on this.  I think I like the "injection" pinstriping just under the hatch lip more than the turbo sticker.

I measured the Turbo striping and took some high def pictures, I'll post them this week. I'll also measure the injection striping and take some good pictures, I'm still thinking of maybe using one of these stripings on my new color scheme.

@VG30DETT, we get the taillights but you guys get the better engines! Which of both is the easiest to replace? :D :D :D
Do you only have the "Six pack" tail lights?
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: BattleFairy on 05:40:34 AM / 26-Nov-12
I want those tail lights! Why did we get the ones that Nissan found in the utility parts bins? Euro cars always had the best shit!
(http://troll.me/images/indiana-jones/really-bitch-please-thumb.jpg)
and why we dont get SE´s? and other uber cool crap taht nissan only sold in the states?

oh wait we even dont get the fucking 510.....so stop crying around about llights, cause we dont get even six packs and other nice stuff
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: sideways_s12 on 09:36:40 PM / 26-Nov-12
Lol I don't know why somone hasn't come up with a parts exchange site between europe and the states it's obvious they have stuff we want and we have stuff they want....

Ontopic: Nice find and I love the decal down the sides it's awesome keep up the good work...
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 03:15:04 AM / 29-Nov-12
Indeed, the only reason I can think about is maybe because they wouldn't have a lot of profit unless they find a way to lower shipping costs :)

Yesterday i was able to remove the passanger-side front light and also the hood

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/testfit1/foto%202.jpg)

This gave me the opportunity to do a quick testfit of the sideskirt and front fender. Fits quitte good, yet it will require some trimming and modifications to fit perfect. I'm also thinking of modifying the wheel arches on the inside so that I can fit a wide wheel underneath (I really like wide JDM style wheels):

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/testfit1/foto%201.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/testfit1/foto%203.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: methylprop on 03:48:52 AM / 29-Nov-12
I just sent that company a message about full price of the gp kit including shipping to the states. I hope they get back to me.  Very cool s12 by the way. can't wait to see more progress.
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: BattleFairy on 03:56:16 AM / 29-Nov-12
well a buddy of mine was one of the first with that kit long time ago.....he wasnt pleased with the fitment. So did they get better? The Production Company in Poland even try to scam him^^ one of the reasons why iam staying away from this.

I wish they would make normal fender Replacements to safe some weight
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 03:26:36 PM / 08-Dec-12
fitment is far from perfect, will need some trimming, cutting and other adjustments. Passenger side is the baddest, the other side is pretty good (as far as I can see for now).

So what did I do this week:

I cut down the rusted bolts that were stuck so I could finally test fit the other side:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/8dec12/foto%201.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/8dec12/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/8dec12/foto%203.jpg)

Stripped the engine bay even further

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/8dec12/foto%204.jpg)

Started stripping the rear end

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/8dec12/foto%205.jpg)

And the interior also:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/8dec12/foto%206.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/8dec12/foto%207.jpg)

Also grinded the wheel wells to have a better view on the rust

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/8dec12/foto%208.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/8dec12/foto%209.jpg)

And finally I had 1 minute of silence for my 2 friends that were burried underneath my rear light :p

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/8dec12/foto%2010.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: burritomannn on 09:17:14 PM / 10-Dec-12
This one's gonna be interesting, international funk
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 01:18:50 PM / 27-Dec-12
Update:

Out goes the engine :D

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/engine_out/foto.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: BattleFairy on 03:17:02 PM / 27-Dec-12
I like the look of the CA18et ...........well thats the only good thing about haha
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 01:18:53 PM / 28-Dec-12
Yes, i share your opinion about the CA18ET :P

I'm now cleaning the CA18DET on the outside and then I'm gonna remove the oil-panel so that I can take a look at the crankshaft  :yes:
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: sunny1600 on 05:45:57 PM / 28-Dec-12
See you next year Carole at our Eindhoven meet. Two widebody S12's next to each other.Looking forward to it :)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 02:48:28 PM / 30-Dec-12
Lets hope I'll make it :P


At this very moment I'm cleaning the CA18DET, but I'm still wondering whether or not I'm gonna open this engine. It would be a shame to open an engine that might be in good condition (althought I don't know its' history). On the other hand he's sitting on an engine stand, so this would be the right moment to change some internals if I want to.

What I consider doing:
- New head gasket
- New head bolts (ARP)
- New main and piston bearings. Although I'm afraid of maybe break the crankcase because of the adhesive effect the gasket might have (this happens from time to time).

What do you guys think?

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ca18det_clean/foto%201.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ca18det_clean/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ca18det_clean/foto%203.jpg)

The engine bay also requires some attention :) :)
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ca18det_clean/foto%204.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 12:38:07 PM / 02-Jan-13
Continued the cleaning proces of the engine bay :)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/2jan13/foto%201.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/2jan13/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/2jan13/foto%203.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: I_heart_VVL on 03:03:30 PM / 02-Jan-13
Do a compression test! This will tell you if the entire engine needs to come apart or not. If not, then at the very least I'd pop off the head and check out the pistons and cylinder bore, and take off the oil pan to inspect the bearings for any side to side or excessive forward to back play.

Some things that should be done on ANY motor swap are: Headgasket/bolts, water pump/thermostat, all of the gaskets, and maybe the oil pump depending on the condition.
Do it while you have the engine out! Nothing sucks more than having to park your car just after you got it running.

Good luck man :)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: Arro on 04:18:42 PM / 02-Jan-13
CA18DET, GP wide body kit... I can't wait to see how this turns out! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 12:59:17 PM / 10-Feb-13
Thx! I also can't wait, lol :D

After 3 weeks of too cold weather, temperatures finally went above 0 degrees. So today I could finally continue my project:

Almost done removing all the bits out of the engine bay:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/10feb13/foto%201.jpg)


And also started removing the crossmembers and suspension.

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/10feb13/foto%202.jpg)



I've set the respray of the engine bay deadline to april. Let's see if I can make it :)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: sideways_s12 on 10:58:14 PM / 10-Feb-13
Nice Work So far...
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: pakii-afa on 03:30:36 AM / 12-Feb-13
want to see more on how the kit looks and bolts on, stoked!
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 04:29:20 AM / 08-Mar-13
@sideways_s12, thanks. But still a long road ahead!  :angel:

@pakii-afa, Maybe I'll fit it tomorrow. Fitment on the driver side is pretty good, on the passenger side i'll have to cut and adjust a little bit  :thinking:

So what did I do to my S12 this week:

Out with the crossmembers
Out with the interior
Out with the cables and other bits left in the engine bay

Almost ready with my preparations to sandblast the engine bay and get rid of the annoying rust!  :devilsidesmile:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/7mar13/foto%201_800x.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/7mar13/foto%203_800x.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: pakii-afa on 08:33:34 PM / 08-Mar-13
it does suck that the fitment is bad, for the price id expect little issues, not fitment issues. but then again, it is a replica.
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 02:40:06 PM / 10-Mar-13
True that! But as you said, it's still a mold taken from another GP so mistakes are likely to happen.

So what did I do this weekend:

I removed the gas tank
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/mar13_parts/foto%201.jpg)

Painted the brake booster
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/mar13_parts/foto%204.jpg)


Also did a road trip of 400km for some parts, but well worth the drive!
- ACL bearings
- Refurbished T28 turbo
- HKS filter
- APEXI S13 intercooler
- S13 engine dampers (not in the pics)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/mar13_parts/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/mar13_parts/foto%203.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/mar13_parts/foto%205.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: sideways_s12 on 03:43:28 AM / 18-Mar-13
Where did you find your t28
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 05:56:40 PM / 20-Apr-13
@Sideways, from a friendly Dutch guy trough sxoc.nl forum :)

So what happened the past few days/weeks:

- Bought a welder
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/14apr13/foto%204.jpg)

- Started my epic journey of weight reduction
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/14apr13/foto%203%20(1).jpg)

- Gave my front subframe a second chance in life
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/14apr13/foto%201.jpg)

You dirty boy!
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/14apr13/foto%200.jpg)

And there he was, so fresh and so clean
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/14apr13/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/14apr13/foto%205%20(1).jpg)

Made the s12 look badass for a few seconds
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/21apr13/foto%201.jpg)

Released 4 prisoners from their cage, at least for some days
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/21apr13/foto%202.jpg)

Enjoyed some Japanese art
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/21apr13/foto%203.jpg)

Ready for honing!
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/21apr13/foto%204.jpg)

CA18DET plans:
- New seals
- New oil pump
- New water pump
- New gaskets
- New main & big end bearings (ACL duraglide)
- New head bolts
- New piston rings and oil scraper
- Hone pistons
- Flatten head

And then ofcourse put everything back together :)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: DjayS12 on 06:15:43 PM / 20-Apr-13
How did I missed that thread before? Cool build. It's going to be a very nice car once everything is put together!
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: burritomannn on 09:01:14 PM / 20-Apr-13
Nice work on the subframe! Keep up the good work
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: sideways_s12 on 02:19:15 AM / 22-Apr-13
I was reading on niclub.com you should get the arp rod bolts as well....
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 02:48:04 AM / 22-Apr-13
@DjayS12, thx. Looking forward to putting everything back together  :tongue2:

@Burritomannn, thx

@sideways_s12, thanks for the tip. Do they really make a big difference? I was wondering how these rod bolts are mounted inside the pistons, are they pressed? Or how do you remove/replace them?

Does anyone have any experience with ACL bearings? I have read some horror storries on the internet of wasted crank shafts after putting in ACL bearings. It would have something to do with the fact that ACL only makes them in one size whereas normally they work with color codes to create the right amount of play? Just want to make sure I don't put crap in my engine. On the other hand I always tought ACL was THE brand for quality bearings like ARP is THE brand for bolts. (fyi I was planning on using the Duraglide ACL big ends & main bearings and measuring play with plastigauge).
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: Arro on 06:38:03 PM / 23-Apr-13
I love how truly international our forum is... more than any other forum Ive ever seen for cars! :thumbsup:

ARP anything improves engine stability.

I love your sense of humor... I look forward to more!
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: sideways_s12 on 02:19:31 AM / 24-Apr-13
Yeah the guys on the site say if you wasn't to make any kind of real power that they are needed. that info prompted me to tell my mechanic last minute to get them....
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 04:13:18 AM / 25-Apr-13
@Arro, true! To be honest I registered here because I thought this was THE S12 forum  :yay!:

@Sideways_s12, Arro, Also the head stud kit or only the rod bolts? :P
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 05:35:21 AM / 19-Oct-13
Meanwhile in Belgium:

Out with the rusted crap

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/roest/foto%204.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/roest/foto%205.jpg)

And in with the new metal

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/roest/foto%201.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/roest/foto%203.jpg)




Same story on the passenger side

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/27aug13/foto%206.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/27aug13/foto%2013.jpg)

Done

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/27aug13/foto%205.jpg)



Mhmmm it might have been a liiiiiitle bit crusty

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/27aug13/foto%207.jpg)


Give the metal some protection

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/27aug13/foto%2010.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/27aug13/foto%209.jpg)


And last but certainly not least, give the engine bay some luuuuuuuvvvvvv

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/860918_10152311317464778_1952820750_o.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/856791_10152311356704778_2020266353_o.jpg)


And yes this is one bad ass party tent spray booth ... like a baws  :evillaugh:


I know my build is taking longer than expected .. but I just can't get it over my heart to let a rusty plate stay. It has to be perfect :P
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: 86forever on 02:12:06 AM / 21-Oct-13
very good work man! i am digging the wide body!
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: DjayS12 on 03:42:04 AM / 21-Oct-13
Nice job, quality build always take longer than expected. Take your time and make sure everything is up to your standard!
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 03:51:18 PM / 26-Oct-13
@86forever, thx! :)

@Djays12, I just can't stand it when something is left untouched and not perfect  :angel:


This wednesdey I finally did the last steps in prepping the engine bay and did the respray  (Toyota - Ivory White/New White 041 - facelift AE86 color). I knew painting an engine bay wasn't easy but MYYYY GODDD i took ages (3-4 hours of painting). But the result is well worth the effort.

How she sits at this moment:
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%2013.jpg)


I also made some random before-after pictures which sure do give an idea of the work/prep that has been put in. She was such a dirty girl nobody would want to stick anything in, but now it's probably cleaner than clean dish :D

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%201.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%202.jpg)





(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%203.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%204.jpg)








(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%205.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%206.jpg)








(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%207.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%208.jpg)








(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%209.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%2010.jpg)









(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%2011.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/voor-na/foto%2012.jpg)



Next up:
- Suspension + brakes (S13 swap)
- Engine swap (CA18DET)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: sideways_s12 on 04:27:46 AM / 28-Oct-13
haven't been in here in awhile nice progress and to answer your question get the headstuds and rod bolts if you haven't done so already!
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 06:59:06 AM / 24-Nov-13
Thx for the tip sideways_S12  :yay!:

Small update:

- new brake lines (made them by hand :D)
- cleaned and resprayed some parts (brake booster, whiper engine, ..)
- Installed sub frame (I resprayed half a year ago)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/engine-bay_v1.JPG)


Next up (I hope to finish this by the end of 2013):

- Rebuild brakes (looking for repair kit)
- Rebuild suspension (original S12 probably since the original S13 springs are too wide and the yearly check does not allow tuned springs)
- Build up engine
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: pakii-afa on 06:11:26 PM / 28-Nov-13
i thought the ca18det was a full counted weight crank not just half like the ka24(d)e ?
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 05:00:11 PM / 30-Dec-13
@pakii-afa, uuuuhm is that a good or a bad thing? :D


Time for some update:
- Treathed the wheel wells with some anti-stonechip
- Revised my brakes and gave them some new paint
- New ball joints and outer tie rods
- Repainted the whole suspension + various other bits
- Rebuild the complete suspension (change parts where needed)


Brakes are BLUEEEEEEEEE    :yes:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ophanging%20voor-na/foto%201.JPG)


Well helllooooo there  :angel:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ophanging%20voor-na/foto%202.JPG)



Suspension drivers side, before

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ophanging%20voor-na/foto%203.JPG)

As it sits now

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ophanging%20voor-na/foto%204.JPG)


Same story on the passenger side (that's the annoying thing about suspension, you have to do everything twice ...   :grumpy: )

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ophanging%20voor-na/foto%205.JPG)


After

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ophanging%20voor-na/foto%206.JPG)


Enjoyed some coffee to keep me warm (although I can't complain about the temperature for this time of the year)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ophanging%20voor-na/foto%207.JPG)


The complete front view, before

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ophanging%20voor-na/foto%208.JPG)


After

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ophanging%20voor-na/foto%209.JPG)



Finally after 1 year of hard work, her 4 legs touched the floor again.   :angel:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/ophanging%20voor-na/foto%2010.JPG)



Next up: Engine rebuild
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: pakii-afa on 05:18:08 AM / 12-Jan-14
yea it kind of is, its bad for harmonics at certain rpms.. ka24 usually explodes if you hang around 7200-7300 because it has very bad crank balance at around there. i just thought nissan would have put in a fcw crank for a fairly expensive and technologically developed motor of that time..
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 01:35:57 PM / 12-Jan-14
@pakii-afa, I see! Thanks for that info, I had no idea! Strange indeed!  :yes:

So what has happened the past weeks

- Retape the S12 harness (lots of degrease and tape work   :straight: )
- Mount the S12 harness
- mounting various bits

Some pics before/after

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%201.JPG)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%202.JPG)



(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%203.JPG)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%204.JPG)



(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%205.JPG)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%206.JPG)



(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%207.JPG)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%208.JPG)


Rebuild engine:
- new sealings
- new bearings (ACL race)
- cleaning oil pump
- cleaning pistons since I'm using the OEM ones
- new piston rings
- mounting revised head
- mounting inlet
and some other various bits

Some detail pics of the mid engine & head

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%209.JPG)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%2010.JPG)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%2012.JPG)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%2013.JPG)


As the engine is sitting atm:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%2011.JPG)
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%2014.JPG)


Found a perfect set of blue S2000 seats

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%2016.JPG)

The color is really spot-on, couldn't suit better with the S12 blue!

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/S12/rebuild/foto%2017.JPG)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: pakii-afa on 06:29:29 AM / 13-Jan-14
i actually assumed the the ca18det was fcw crank since it offered so many new technologies back then, i guess not. i like how the car is coming along, i reall want to see the widebody grand prix kit installed :D
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: s12rich on 12:08:34 PM / 13-Jan-14
keep up the good work :yes:
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 05:35:08 AM / 19-Jan-14
@pakii-afa, I will continue body works soon.  :yay!:

@s12rich, thx! :)

Some other small update
Cleaned the alternator and painted it with a little brush (awww yeahhh  :wideeyed:  )

Front done vs back not done
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/19%20jan%2014/foto%201.jpg)

Finished
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/19%20jan%2014/foto%202.jpg)

Installed the water pump, timing belt, etc ... and painted the front in black combined with a polished angle sensor
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/19%20jan%2014/foto%203.jpg)

As the engine sits atm
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/19%20jan%2014/foto%204.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: sideways_s12 on 12:31:53 AM / 20-Jan-14
didn't realize this was an 18det build lol Nice work!
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 02:49:49 PM / 30-Jan-14
LoL, yeah the CA18DET is the perfect solution to give the S12 some more power and to have a lot more after market parts :D

The engine is yelling: 'pleaaaase put me in the engine bay'

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/sfeer%201.jpg)


GP Body kit does need some adjustmens in order for it to fit good, but overall I'm happy with the fitment of the first panel:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/sfeer%202.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: Mr Amber Shades on 03:38:33 PM / 30-Jan-14
Really great work!

When will you work on fitting the seats in?  I'd like to see that as I would like to completely replace the seats but modding the pan/rails will cone up
Title: Re: [Belgium] Reviving my S12
Post by: XortioN on 11:40:37 AM / 31-Jan-14
Thx! :)

I think the seats will be one of the last things I'll do. In Belgium you are not allowed to change the seats unless you use the original rails. Since that's probably not going to be an option, I'll have to adapt the S2000 rails without changing the pan to make them fit because I'll have to put in the original ones every year for technical check up :)
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: XortioN on 05:04:17 PM / 01-Mar-14
Time for an update:

Continued adapting the GP kit in orde to make it all fit, will require some more adjustments

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%201.jpg)

It seems like a wide wheel will be needed :D

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%202.jpg)

Eating some JDM food while cleaning the garage!

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/noodles.jpg)

Valve cover also needed some attention, my god what a mess!

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%203.jpg)

Seeing this made me wonder how it's possible that an engine with this much dirt still ran, seems like it's not a waste of time cleaning this out.

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%204.jpg)

After clean up it got a good sand blast and powder coat.

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%205.jpg)

Which made the engine look even more like ... well an engine
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%206.jpg)

Close up of the wrinkle effect

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%207.jpg)

Disassembled the front lights

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%208.jpg)

And powder coated the frame in high gloss black (actually used for Harley bikes, bling bling :D )

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%209.jpg)

Next I attacked the rust on the window frame

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%2010.jpg)

Which went without a hassle, will be getting some putty to flatten it all

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%2011.jpg)

Subframe had to go in orde to give me some room for the next rust job

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%2012.jpg)

We have a lift off!

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%2013.jpg)

It seems like the previous owner has already touched this part of the car too.. unfortunately!

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%2014.jpg)

As it seems he had juist welded another plate on top of the original rust hole, which has made it all worse over time. People like this should just not touch a car :(

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%2015.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%2016.jpg)

Better get rid of all the rust ..

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%2017.jpg)

.. so I can start from a clean base! :)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%2018.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/1%20maart%2014/foto%2019.jpg)


Has been a good month progress-wise, then again I try to work on it 3-4 times a week (sometimes even until 1-2 o' clock at night).
Since my girlfriend has to work this week and I took a week of I hope I can make some extra progress! :D

(http://pearlsinvinegar.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/aw-yeah-4943_preview.png)

Also collected some spare S12 parts (from several owners/cars):

- Spare blue interior (everything starting from the back seat with panels included)
- Spare rear lights
- 5 front indicators, mine are broken :D
- new engine to open front light
- rear subframe with diff, brakes and suspension .. you never know :P
- Front grill
- Front suspension with brakes included, I'll be using these to create my own coil-overs :)
- some other various bits and pieces

So actually I got like half an S12 in spare parts, that'll keep mine alive! Gooooood :D
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: methylprop on 11:06:03 PM / 01-Mar-14
This is such a cool project. You're making some nice progress.
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: XortioN on 01:43:43 PM / 05-Mar-14
Thank you very much!  :yay!:

Did some epic hours previous 2 days, with this as a result:

Fixed part 1

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/3%20maart%2014/foto%203.jpg)

Closed it so the interior looks good again

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/3%20maart%2014/foto%204.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/3%20maart%2014/foto%205.jpg)

Better than what it used to look like :)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/3%20maart%2014/foto%206.jpg)

Closed the rear of the sill, added some sealer and paint (don't mind the color, just needs some paint so it doesn't start rusting soon)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4%20maart%2014/foto%201.jpg)

In goes the exterior part of the sill

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4%20maart%2014/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4%20maart%2014/foto%203.jpg)

Do I really have to do it all over again on the other side :( :( :(
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: burritomannn on 06:52:35 PM / 05-Mar-14
Wow you're doing great work!! Good luck!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: 8SixS12 on 11:57:38 AM / 07-Mar-14
This is pretty epic!  Awesome job bro!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: XortioN on 06:34:42 AM / 04-Jul-14
Thanks burritomannn & 8SixS12  :yes: :yes:

I've still been very busy in the last few months:

Removed all the rusty pieces from my wheel arche and addapted a Mazda 323 wheel arch to fit in.

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/wielboog/foto%203.jpg)

Created new inner wheel arch, welded it in and painted it all (except for the places I had to weld the outer arch onto)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/wielboog/foto%204.jpg)


In goes the outer wheel arch

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/wielboog/foto%205.jpg)


Current temporary look (will be finishing this when passenger side is also done)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/wielboog/foto%206.jpg)


What the subframe looked like

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%201.jpg)


Taking everything apart. As you can see there is a lot of rust, yet the bushings are in very good condition (wasn't expecting that)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%202.jpg)


Grinding until you drop dead. Maybe a shiny polished subframe would look cool, but nahhhhhh

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%203.jpg)


Give it a good epoxy primer

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%204.jpg)


Then let it all shine (sprayed with industrial 2K paint)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%205.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%207.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%208.jpg)


Since I was expecting some rust I cut away an old 'repair'.

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%209.jpg)


.. A big gift waited for me inside. What a nice repair *ahum*

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%2010.jpg)


The inside/underside wasn't really any better

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%2011.jpg)


So I started to cut away but decided to let some reference points in so I still know where my new plates should end. After welding in the first parts, I removed all the other rusty plates and replaced them by new metal.

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%2012.jpg)


Current look of the repair, still needs some finishing touches but first I want to weld in the wheel arch (I don't like double work)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%2013.jpg)


Seeing from the inside of the car

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%2014.jpg)


And from underneeth

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%2015.jpg)


So now I can start working on this brand new side :D

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%2016.jpg)


Also was able to source some parts (not really easy tough):

Already arrived
- New wheel bearings + dust caps
- New rubbers for suspension

Incoming
- Parking brake cable
- Flex cables


Plans for coming month
- Finishing up welding (wheel arch etc.) on passenger side
- Make underside of the car tidy (grinding away rust + give it some anti-rust chemical stuff)
- New paint + protection on underside
- Assemble subframe + mount
- Brakes

If this is done, the car can finally get back on its 4 wheels and I can go on with the next stuff (engine + GP kit).

Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: sideways_s12 on 07:36:11 PM / 04-Jul-14
That's the only thing I worry about when i get to the UK when I find one hopefully it will be as close as possible to a rust free shell....
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: XortioN on 03:42:39 AM / 06-Jul-14
I think I just might have bought one of the worst s12's around there :P
But I got it from my best friend for a very very good price, then again maybe I had better spent a bit more for a more rust-free one. Would have saved me a lot of time (thus money) in the end  :tongue2:

My best friend bought this S12 about 5 years ago and it was put on grass for 3 years .. That + bad rust repairs resulted in a lot of rust  :cry2:

But I'm in it too far now, I have to finish this no matter what.  :rip:  :yay!:
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: Baby on 10:14:50 AM / 06-Jul-14
But I'm in it too far now, I have to finish this no matter what.  :rip:  :yay!:

Well, it looks like you've figured out most of the hard stuff already! Keep it up...
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: sideways_s12 on 08:38:42 PM / 06-Jul-14
Yeah I totally understand once you're this deep in it's hard to turn back ...
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: XortioN on 04:00:56 AM / 27-Jul-14
Thanks!

To all car owners, please don't overspray your subframe with anti-stoneship stuff! It's really hard to get it all of and hides/causes a lot of rust :D
Just some pics to show what I'm upto. I've had 2 weeks of working on my car every morning until night :)

Subframe before - after (still waiting for some parts though)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/werken%20juli%202014/foto%201.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/werken%20juli%202014/foto%202.jpg)


Close-up so you can really see the difference

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/werken%20juli%202014/foto%203.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/werken%20juli%202014/foto%204.jpg)

Cleaning the underbody (scraping of all dirt and anti-stonechip stuff and grinding down all the rust spots to bare metal, providing it with some rust neutralizer and paint)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/werken%20juli%202014/foto%205.jpg)

Welding in the last wheel arch, what a work to make it all fit (again Mazda 323 wheel arch since I could not find a better one), obviously the rear is not finished yet.

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/werken%20juli%202014/foto%206.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: XortioN on 02:50:45 PM / 29-Jul-14
Last few days I finished my rear passenger wheel arch, so now it's just only some small rust repairs that I have to do (about 6 days of work I guess). Unfortunately I wont be able to work on it the next 2 weeks  :(

Finished the back of the fender/wheel arch and closed it all up on the inside

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/werken%20juli%202014/foto%207.jpg)

Next grinded down all the weld spots and gave it some temporary epoxy primer

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/werken%20juli%202014/foto%208.jpg)

Took a picture to compare to how it used to be 2 weeks ago, very happy with the result! :D

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/4juli14/foto%2011.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/werken%20juli%202014/foto%209.jpg)

And took a panorama of the inside of the wheel arch

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/werken%20juli%202014/foto%2010.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: pakii-afa on 09:47:11 PM / 29-Jul-14
the wheel arch looks a bit wider than the stock s12, i like it! lol
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: XortioN on 02:41:41 AM / 28-Oct-14
Yes they are a bit wider, about 2.5-3 inch (7-8cm) which is perfect for the GP kit :angel:

Since it has been a while since my last post and I have been very busy restoring the S12, I thought the time was right to give a new update.

I have been fixing the last rust issues (only 3 small spots on the top of the car left).
What started as a smal puncture soon turned out to be more than I expected:
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/pre/foto%201.jpg)

But since I rather do it all the way at this point, I removed it all
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/pre/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/pre/foto%203.jpg)

Same goes for this

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/pre/foto%204.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/pre/foto%205.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/pre/foto%206.jpg)

And also for the rusty spot I found on my chassis

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/pre/foto%207.jpg)

Replacing it all the way and providing it with a breather hole to prevent water from getting stuck inside

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/pre/foto%208.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/pre/foto%209.jpg)

After paint, it looks brand new

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/pre/foto%2010.jpg)



Talking about paint, I grinded down the underbody of the car putting anti-rust, epoxy-primer and fresh paint on the spots that needed it.

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/foto%201.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/foto%203.jpg)


Then it was time to mount the fresh subframe which gave me the opportunity to make a nice before-after picture once again

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/foto%204.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/foto%205.jpg)



Finally a chapter that has been finished: the underbody is completely fresh/looking new  :japan:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/foto%206.jpg)


(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/foto%207.jpg)



Next up: assembling the rest of engine (turbo, coolant lines, vacuum lines, fuel rail, ...) and making the puzzle fit. Hopefully I will be dropping in the engine in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: pakii-afa on 06:45:41 PM / 28-Oct-14
wow this is like the next best build lol
keep it up looks great!

what differential are you using, i noticed it has an lsd fin cover
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - GP Body kit in progress
Post by: XortioN on 05:42:08 PM / 15-Nov-14
Thx! :)

I'm using the stock S12 differential (EU spec?), but I think it's an open diff (it will be something to be adressed after the build is finished, got to know what to do every winter right?)  :yay!:

After a few weeks of hard work on the engine/tranny, it's finally in!

Some information that might be interesting for other S12 owners getting the CA18DET engine:

I used 300ZX engine mounts which are more rigid (less vibration/engine movement) combined with te S13 engine brackets on the S12 CA18ET subframe. I am using the stock S12 transmission combined with a CA18DET clutch + bearing (90-... not the pre 90!!!). Engine does sit a bit higher which makes the engine rub agains the hood, so I will probably be using hood spacers and search for a GP hood :)

Brake lines are kinda close to the exhaust and I had to remove the original heath-shield because the exhaust was stuck against it, I will be making a custom heath shield to resolve this issue.

I used S13 steering pump but used the return line of the S12 steering pump, which made it easier to fit the return line.

Setup:
- CA18DET
- CA18ET gearbox
- 300ZX engine mounts + s13 engine brackets
- T28 turbo
- XS power exhaust manifold

What I also did:
- Give the drive shaft some fresh pain
- New clutch
- New brake lines to the rear
- New gasoline-lines
- And ofcourse a lot of engine stuff :)


To the point, pictures:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/15-11/foto%201.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/15-11/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/15-11/foto%203.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 01:49:53 PM / 11-Jul-15
Been awhile since an update hows it coming?
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: XortioN on 05:48:59 AM / 06-Sep-15
Thanks for asking! I had to move the car out of my garage, so I wasn't able to work on it from december - march.

But since then I have been working a lot on the S12. I finally got (almost) everything mounted engine-wise and finished my wiring. I also got the engine running for the first time, which was a glorious moment (started from the first time and ran so smooth):

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjTqBF4-bc

I finished the intake using a K&N kit, Volvo intercooler and some custom piping. In between the volvo intercooler I managed to fit an aftermarket Toyota AE86 twin core radiator with 2x 12" electrical fans and some custom brackets to make it all stay in place. I also did some other various stuff like restoring gasoline tank, new walbro pump, new fuel lines, oil catch tank, retaped interior cabling, ... And fixed the last bit of rust underneath the trunk lid.

I have made a before/after comparisson:

(http://www.xcustoms.be/varia/s12/29%20juni%2015/voor.jpg)

(http://www.xcustoms.be/varia/s12/29%20juni%2015/na.jpg)

A month ago I finally found an MK2 front (bonnet, grille, sidelights, front lip, ..) and some other parts which I had been looking for for the past 2 years. I drove to the UK to pick it up, happy man  :yay!:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/6%20aug%2015/foto%202.jpg)


The reason why I was looking for this bonnet is because it gives more room for the CA18DET (combined with 300zx mounts) and the MK2 front looks much cleaner in my opinion and will really make the GP kit stand out much more.

Comparison in space under the bonnet (white is mk1, red is mk2)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/6%20aug%2015/foto%203.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/6%20aug%2015/foto%204.jpg)


I also painted the rear interior (everything that will be visible behind the floor fabric) 2 weeks ago and I am now preparing everything to mount the GP kit and get him ready for paint (he will be going in in november and will be painted with molded GP kit in januari).

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/sep%2015/interior1.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/sep%2015/interior2.jpg)

It may not seem like a lot has been done, but since I'm doing everything on my own .. believe me there has been a lot done.
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: Cajun1guy on 05:50:51 PM / 07-Sep-15
Your project is most impressive! It is great to see such dedication to this old car, and the effort you make shows. The start video of the engine sounded very good.
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: rednucleus on 06:45:25 PM / 07-Sep-15
That is one clean, beautiful engine bay. Please come to America and do mine!!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 01:05:21 AM / 07-Oct-15
Definitly looking good!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: 8SixS12 on 05:16:39 PM / 08-Oct-15
And I was discouraged? This build is first rate!  Gives me the confidence to carry on!  Any progress?
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: Cajun1guy on 10:41:53 PM / 08-Oct-15
Yes, this build is beyond normal fix it up. You are doing an awesome restoration!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: weitrhino on 08:19:56 AM / 09-Oct-15
I have been thoroughly demoralized by this build thread. Bravo!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: SchizophrenicMC on 10:03:46 AM / 09-Oct-15
Remember, folks: all that's keeping you from having an awesome resto like this is the fact that you're too broke to afford it!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: rednucleus on 11:54:19 AM / 09-Oct-15
Remember, folks: all that's keeping you from having an awesome resto like this is the fact that you're too broke to afford it!
Nope -alot more than just funds. There's alot of skill involved here that some of us shade tree mechanics do not possess. Unless I hire out all the work but isn't that cheating??
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: weitrhino on 06:56:33 PM / 09-Oct-15
Nope -alot more than just funds. There's alot of skill involved here that some of us shade tree mechanics do not possess. Unless I hire out all the work but isn't that cheating??


Your car won't consider it cheating.
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: rednucleus on 08:16:43 PM / 09-Oct-15

Your car won't consider it cheating.
My car would have a seizure!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: Prolowtone on 12:50:39 AM / 22-Oct-15
That is some awesome work you have done, keep it up!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: SchizophrenicMC on 04:18:29 AM / 22-Oct-15
Nope -alot more than just funds. There's alot of skill involved here that some of us shade tree mechanics do not possess. Unless I hire out all the work but isn't that cheating??

Skill can be bought or rented.


I just noticed the quarter panel says INJECTION. I dig that.
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: XortioN on 02:53:16 PM / 09-Dec-15
Thanks a lot for these motivating words, I have read them over and over to get me started working on the s12 again!  :yay!:
Yes it needs a lot of money, but especially a lot of patience because it has been a work of 3-4 years uptil now and will take another year to finish I think (especially money-wise).

We finally finished making an exhaust out of some pipework and 2.5" spoon exhaust.

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/9%20dec%2015/foto%201.jpg)


(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/9%20dec%2015/foto%202.jpg)

Polished
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/9%20dec%2015/foto%203.jpg)


(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/9%20dec%2015/foto%204.jpg)

Car is going in for paint and GP kit next weekend  :angel: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Unfortunately the turbo is leaking oil, so I will be taking that out after paintwork (hope I don't scratch anything).
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: Cajun1guy on 11:58:58 AM / 10-Dec-15
Can't wait to see the finished product, what a labor of love!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 02:31:10 PM / 22-Dec-15
What muffler is that?
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: XortioN on 04:22:12 AM / 31-Dec-15
Thanks! Looking forward as well, finally some work is getting done by someone else (it felt a bit weird leaving it behind at the shop though..).  :rip:

I used a Honda Civic Type R (EP3 K20A2) 2.5" catback with spoon N1 style muffler, I used to have this exhaust on my Type R civic and I loved the look of it. It's not too big and yet gives a subtle race look.

Here you can see the same exhaust on my Civic (which I sold to be able to afford my S12 restoration):

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/26-10/ep3/foto%202.jpg)

The spoon N1 muffler (take in mind that a real Spoon costs about 700$ and a replica 200$ for the muffler itself). You can also buy the muffler without pipework on ebay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M2-MOTORSPORT-UNIVERSAL-SPOON-N1-STYLE-ROLLED-TIP-EXHAUST-BACK-BOX-MUFFLER-Y2839-/271973433511?hash=item3f52e140a7:g:0wYAAOSwpDdVQPxP):

(http://spoonsports.a.cdnify.io/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/82b59602b9fdb10dff000365f75c373c/1/8/18030-eg6-011_1_1_1.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 01:01:19 PM / 13-Feb-16
That's not bad at all! I was thinking of going with a magnaflow unsure tho...
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: XortioN on 06:54:09 AM / 24-Apr-16
Some update after 6 months.  :tongue2:

The silvia is almost ready for paint, althought I will wait another 2 months because this requires some extra money  :yes:

What has been done in the past months:

- Removed windows and several window trim
- Fixed rust: antenna, underneath window, trunk, ...
- Fixed dent in fender and hood
- MK2 lip was adapted so that it fits on the mk1 bumper and GP kit
- GP kit has required a lot of custom work because the fitment was poor and it lacked quality. It has been reinforced also and now fits perfect. We used a allan-screw system so that the kit kan be removed and cleaning behind the panels is possible. It looks a bit like the rockey bunny kits.
- US spoiler was fixed (he was broken during transport) and mounted


Pictures:
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/JEM/foto%201.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/JEM/foto%202.jpg)

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/JEM/foto%203.jpg)

Here you can see the allan screws and perfect fitment
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/JEM/foto%204.jpg)

I also did some fotoshopping to see what it will look like once its done
(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/JEM/mock%20up.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: Cajun1guy on 11:10:42 AM / 25-Apr-16
As always, very impressive! That is going to be one fine machine when you are done!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: pakii-afa on 06:15:56 AM / 04-May-16
I'm jealous, very jealous. Is that kit still available?
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: Nebuchernezzer on 05:05:57 PM / 04-May-16
This is a very nice resto mod!
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 04:23:19 PM / 08-May-16
Are you changing the rear spoiler? IMO it would look better with something more subtle like the turbo spoiler.
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: XortioN on 03:38:35 PM / 25-Jan-17
Well the original spoiler was ready for the bin. :P
So I was able to buy a US spoiler, I would love to have the turbo spoiler but thats just not an option in Belgium (US and turbo spoiler was never sold here).

Paint job is almost ready, I've already uploaded a sneak preview

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/jan%2017%20sneak%20preview/sneak_preview_paintjob.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: Cajun1guy on 09:43:20 PM / 21-May-17
What happened? You left me hanging too long! We need an update.
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 11:00:57 PM / 21-May-17
Yeah whats the dealy-o?
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: XortioN on 09:41:55 AM / 06-Jun-17
I'm sorry for the delay, it has been a hell of ride to get the s12 perfect and painted. Paint is finally done and the new front windscreen, rear windscreen and sunroof are finally fitted. Will be transporting it back home at the end of this week so I can go onto the next step  :tongue2:

(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/06%20juni%202017/voorkant.jpg)


(http://xcustoms.be/varia/s12/06%20juni%202017/achterkant.jpg)
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: Cajun1guy on 02:11:08 PM / 06-Jun-17
That is looking GREAT! Can't wait to see what's next.
Title: Re: [Belgium] S12 - Engine inside :)
Post by: sideways_s12 on 01:56:20 AM / 02-Jul-17
Looks great! any plans to cover the rivets holding the GP kit on?