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Title: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 10:27:28 PM / 14-Apr-05
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/IMG_0320.jpg~original).................PAGE 13 FOR PIX DUMP!!!I'm starting this thread to document adding a rear mounted turbo to a 88 SE VG30/5SPEED..The conversion consists of adapting the 1986 300zx turbo/ECU/INJECTORS/IDLE parts over to the 200sx SE..I started mounting the remote mount turbo today.I have it positioned where the muffler was mounted.The muffler hangers and brackets were reused to support the T3 300zx turbo.The turbo exhaust is angled similar to the stock look. The inlet flange is already hooked up to the exhaust.It looks a little bulky but I think its because the car is still up on the ramps.Once the car is lowered down, it will probably look better.Spray it with some flat black high temperature paint and it will blend in some.There is plenty of room for a AFM and a cone filter as well.Right now these run along side the left rear tire, so maybe a dirt shield of some kind will need to be added....tomorrow I might start fitting the pressure side piping back up front to the throttlebody.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Magnum on 09:34:04 AM / 15-Apr-05
what are you using to pump the oil to the turbo?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Joel07 on 09:58:48 AM / 15-Apr-05
Good luck with it, I\'ll definetly be interested to see how it works out.  I\'m still thinking it\'s gonna be kinda laggy though...
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:23:05 PM / 15-Apr-05
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/IMG_0424.jpg~original)..i'm going to be picking up a Tilton electric differential oil pump....it has been used by others with good results....it's a little pricey but everything else sofar has been cheap good junkyard stuff.....I test fitted the pressure pipe up to the T/B and it fits up the drivers side of the engine with no problem.Plenty clearance past the steering shaft as well.I 'd post pictures but Ihave no luck linking them up.I can e-mail if someone else wants to post them.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: westside27375 on 03:59:47 PM / 15-Apr-05
You can get an account at photobucket.com for uploading and then posting pics.

Works great for me.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jsvob03 on 11:25:53 PM / 15-Apr-05
thats gotta be one SWEET oil pump. its gotta move some serious lubrication. Also, are you going to be using any sort of MAP sensor/different ECU?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Keith on 11:37:52 PM / 15-Apr-05
I hear they have kits like this for F body camaros, trans ams, and firebirds.  Sounds interesting....but I would have to agree.....I would think it would be kinda laggy....but you never though.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jsvob03 on 11:42:27 PM / 15-Apr-05
I read through the STS website, and all the other goodies, and they claim that its no more lag than that of a stock air intake.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:14:44 AM / 16-Apr-05
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thats gotta be one SWEET oil pump. its gotta move some serious lubrication. Also, are you going to be using any sort of MAP sensor/different ECU?
Summit sells the pump for a little under 200....right now I plan to reuse the 300zx ecu/afm[n/a from a 86 car]...a couple people on Z31.COM state there cars run fine on the stock ecu and injectors when they converted to a turbo...we\'ll see.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: JasterM5 on 12:31:44 AM / 17-Apr-05
any pics?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:52:38 PM / 17-Apr-05
I worked on fitting the air cleaner and afm on the turbo today and it fits great...I used the bottom housing of a 300zx air cleaner assembly and fit it in between the gas tank and rear differential pumpkin...there is enough room to pivot the housing in any direction,I decided to have it face down to drain any water that might get thrown its way...its a better location than before where it was adjacent to the left rear wheel..tomorrow I\'ll start on the inlet oil line.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Joel07 on 06:28:20 PM / 17-Apr-05
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I read through the STS website, and all the other goodies, and they claim that its no more lag than that of a stock air intake.


You have to understand though, that these kits they sell are for very large displacement V8\'s, with small turbos and low boost.

Hopefully it\'ll work good with the larger VG30 at low boost, but I am definetly excited to see how it turns out!!!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 08:25:53 PM / 17-Apr-05
I think thats why its important to keep the exhaust pipe diameter small.  No more than 2 inches at most.  I wonder what effects it could have on a blow off valve?  I imagine since the overall boosted volume is large, its forgiving.

What happened to the other thread?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Joel07 on 07:59:22 AM / 18-Apr-05
We lost the other thread in the big crash we had last month.  We lost everything all the way back to 10/04.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: JasterM5 on 09:03:51 AM / 18-Apr-05
I went and I checked out MC\'s project and its awesomeness. My only concern is for that air intake. I think you\'re gonna have to rotate it up or something because as it is now. If you drive in rain its screwed.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:05:31 PM / 18-Apr-05
Yeah Jaster,I agree[btw... any problems on the return drive??].... but this car will probably be driven in decent weather only...I can tilt the air cleaner angled forward for easy ram effect  or tilt toward the rear to keep rain from blasting in[or face it at 12]...today I was able to connect the oil supply line from the engine and back to the turbo...the oil banjo fitting connects to the block right by the rear of alternator[just remove the old plug bolt]...I used one long length of brake line tubing and snaked it along the undercarrage....its zip tied for the time being.....i have to call Summit to order the pump so i can start the return oil line and figure out extending the AFM harness..not much to go.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:11:27 PM / 19-Apr-05
....I worked on extending the harness today...went to Home Depot and bought a large spool of 12 guage wire and soldered in 6 wires to reach the AFM in the rear..made a harness with zip ties and covered that with plastic flex tubing...looks really nice..anyone sell me a AFM HARNESS WITH CLIP??[holding up the project]....ordered the pump today as well.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 08:00:45 PM / 19-Apr-05
What happened to the one on the car? If you are extending the harness why don\'t you just reuse the one you have?

Clip the connector off and solder the wires in place of it. Then relocate it to the rear of the car.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: JasterM5 on 08:01:47 PM / 19-Apr-05
Nope had no problems on the way home except that everytime i got to NYC i remember why i hate driving there. I was so scared I was gonna bend the lips on my new rims. Anyways I posted my Wiring diagram notes for my swap online so if you need to dl them heres the link:

[url]http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/i/h/ihk100/200/wiring%20diagrams.zip[/a]
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:08:26 AM / 20-Apr-05
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What happened to the one on the car? If you are extending the harness why don\'t you just reuse the one you have?  

Clip the connector off and solder the wires in place of it. Then relocate it to the rear of the car.
....I made a adapter from a old afm so I can easily take it apart in the engine compartment.....i need another for the back .
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 03:04:40 PM / 20-Apr-05
gotcha.....now it makes sence     :)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 10:56:53 AM / 21-Apr-05
Try using image shack
(http://img181.echo.cx/img181/9074/turbo12wj.th.jpg)

[url]http://www.imageshack.ws/</a>
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:11:51 PM / 22-Apr-05
thanks for the link......I didnt get much done today because I missed the UPS delivery of the pump....The AFM harness should be delivered tomorrow,so I should be able to get that out of the way.Today i cut off the drain tube from the turbo becauce it is too large .I replaced it with a 3/8\" nipple that will hook up to the pump.I also modified the oil filler screw on cap too accept a 3/8\" nipple so the oil can be pumped back into the engine.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:56:30 AM / 23-Apr-05
I was finishing up the wire harness today, when I realized one of the AFM wires is a silver shielded wire.I cut a piece open and its silver/aluminum colored stand wire covered with insulator within another spiral of silver wire/insulator.The other 5 wires were copper strand wire.Crowbar, can these two inner/outer wires be soldered as one and connected with a length of copper wire?????Or is shielded wire needed for this connection because it has to be separate??THX
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 02:34:20 PM / 23-Apr-05
Its shielded.  The internal wire carries the signal.  The shield captures spurious noise and runs it to ground.  They are never to connect.  You will blow something if you do.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:30:05 PM / 25-Apr-05
Thanks....I finished the harness with a shielded wire.UPS dropped off the pump so I scouted out locations on where to install. I\'m going to try the rear drivers side for now.Its next to the turbo so the oil lines are a easy hook up.Picked up some  hard 3/8\" line to run the oil back up front...... also have to look into where to tap into the ignition electrical for the pump.I got a boost/vacuum guage and found a port on the intake to mount the nipple...almost there.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Cavi Mike on 07:01:08 PM / 25-Apr-05
E-Mail me the pics or hit me up on AIM, I\'ll host the pics for you. I was thinking remote turbo myself, I\'d like to steal..er..see your idea. :wink:

*edit* Sh!t, check out [url]www.dragNY.com[/a] while you\'re at it, you\'re from NY. We like members with intelligence and creativity.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 10:11:06 PM / 25-Apr-05
Why not have a separate oil tank for it? Seems to me it would be better, being cooler oil and all and you wouldn\'t have to run it ALLLLLL the way back to the engine.

Just a thought.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Cavi Mike on 10:16:52 PM / 25-Apr-05
I was assuming that\'s what he was gonna do, and get a nice little cooler(like the rx-7 one that kid is selling on here) yeah baby.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:32:30 AM / 26-Apr-05
It was suggested before[CROWBAR] about the rear oil storage but I decided to go with mostly hard lines from and to the engine. I laid them out on the inside of the frame rails.I was running out of locations to mount a reservoir in the back anyway....CaviMike,I sent a picture.thx.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Cavi Mike on 02:22:58 PM / 26-Apr-05
(http://mike.dragny.com/remoteturbosmall.JPG)
Clicky for bigger picture[/a]
I wish html worked on here.

That flex tubing is gonna leak like a bitch, I don\'t think you\'re gonna get any pressure. (http://mike.dragny.com/remoteturbo.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:47:41 PM / 26-Apr-05
I\'m hopeing the flex pipe holds up...if not, I\'ll drive it to a shop and have them follow my pattern...we\'ll see soon enough.....Today I drilled the 4 holes needed to mount the pump and its now in place.Connected the turbo drain out to the pumps inlet with high pressure/temp 3/8\" hose.I started on the pump outlet with  some custom bent hard line to get it over the differential and down to the frame rail....its a pain in the ass....finish that up tomorrow.[hopefully].
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Drfsta on 01:16:03 AM / 28-Apr-05
:D lol - I had to read this thread at least a couple times before I understood what the hell you were doing!! Um, WHY? excuse my ignorance, I\'ve never seen a VG before. Is it because lack of room? Can I see your exhaust manifold. Haha - this is wicked!! I still don\'t get it ~
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Joel07 on 02:23:37 AM / 28-Apr-05
It\'s mostly because by doing it this way, there\'s a minimal amount of custom parts that need to be made.  No custom manifolds, no serious hacking of engine bay components, and if you ever need to sell the car, it\'d probably take about an hour to take the whole turbo system off and turn the car back to stock.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Drfsta on 06:51:54 PM / 28-Apr-05
So let me get this straight.. Your adapting a turbo to the end of a really thin exhaust to minimise lag, extending the harness and mounting induction behind the diff?
I still dont get how it works, wheres your intercooler? and return to throttle etc :|  is it just me that thinks this is weird? good job tho - its definatly interesting
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:03:52 PM / 28-Apr-05
I finished up the return oil line today. Bent the hard line\'s so it runs over the rear and comes down and follows the passanger side frame rail and up to the oil cap filler.I spent some time readjusting the exhaust hangers to give alittle more clearance around the AFM. I have to pick up some header wrap to cover the exhaust where it runs near the AFM. Tomorow I  have to run 12v to the pump.I have a relay from a oldfan controller.Any suggestions for the switched lead??Also,what is the best spot on the firewall to pass the tubing through for the boost guage???
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 07:52:01 PM / 28-Apr-05
I don\'t know the diameter of the lead for the gauge, but if it were me I\'d use the hood realse gromet if the lead is small enough. It\'s easily accessable and high enough if you want to run it to the A-pillar.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:27:25 PM / 30-Apr-05
Thanks for the grommit idea...it works fine.Finished the installation last night.Started it up today.Fast idle works decent.No   major oil leaks or wierd intake/exhaust noises.Retarded the timing to 10* just to be on the safe side and had to reset the idle speed because it dropped down.Driving it Feels great.The power comes on gradually and the sound of the turbo spooling is too cool.....driving around normally feels just like before I did anything....I have to get a better quality boost guage because this one is reading close to 30 on vacuum and that is 5 -7 lbs higher than on my good Sears vacuum hand pump.I\'m getting 2-3 lbs boost with this guage[ i\'m glad I have the 5 speed]....i have to pick up a manual boost controller and read up....its been raining here hard all day so I cant really get on her but the rain hasnt been a problem with the air filter in the back....it doesnt sound to bad without a real muffler.....the electric oil pump is noisy and i\'ll be looking into ways to quite the hum.....remote mount complete.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Alex Frost on 04:39:46 PM / 30-Apr-05
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..i\'m going to be picking up a Tilton electric differential oil pump....it has been used by others with good results....it\'s a little pricey but everything else sofar has been cheap good junkyard stuff.....I have a 5 speed so hopefully I can compensate for any lag[we\'ll see]....I test fitted the pressure pipe up to the T/B and it fits up the drivers side of the engine with no problem.Plenty clearance past the steering shaft as well.I \'d post pictures but Ihave no luck linking them up.I can e-mail if someone else wants to post them.

 I can host them for you.  Please send the pics to [a href=\'mailto:frost.racing.05@gmail.com\']frost.racing.05@gmail.com[/a] 8)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:12:17 AM / 01-May-05
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I can host them for you.  Please send the pics to [a href=\'mailto:frost.racing.05@gmail.com\']frost.racing.05@gmail.com[/a] 8)
////Picture sent...thx.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 06:03:25 AM / 01-May-05
When I post pics here I use my yahoo geocities site. I post the pics there and then do a copy and paste the get them here. Works like a charm, just can\'t be huge pics.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Joel07 on 06:27:28 AM / 01-May-05
Awesome!  Glad to hear it\'s running!  Looking forward to some more driving impressions, and then maybe some dragstrip times!!  ;)  So is the flex pipe leaking?  I\'m guessing not if you\'re getting any boost at all...


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I still dont get how it works, wheres your intercooler? and return to throttle etc  is it just me that thinks this is weird? good job tho - its definatly interesting


Yeah, we actually had a fairly in-depth conversation (or argument? :mrgreen: ) about the setup before the big board crash.  In theory, there\'s no need for an intercooler, because the length of pipe leading from the turbo all the way back up to the front of the car and to the TB will act like one.

I too, have thought that these setups are weird, but there\'s a company (STS) that sells setups like this for late model cars and trucks (mostly large cubic inch V8\'s though).  That\'s where the idea came from IIRC...
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:22:15 AM / 01-May-05
The flexpipe seems fine....its a marine grade stainless steel type..I am only using regular hose clamps on the end\'s of the pipe[three in a row] and they seem to be holding what little boost it has made....the return pipe to the t/b never gets that warm so I really dont think a intercooler is necessary at this time.....The spooling sound is priceless.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 01:01:01 PM / 01-May-05
Is the wastegate adjustable?  Also, what kind of BOV are you using?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:13:42 PM / 01-May-05
...its a stock internal T3 wastegate and no BOV yet....i am looking into a eclipse bov for now[cheap/reliable] and than a manual boost valve...took it out for a drive and was able to hit 5 lbs boost with this guage....it feels good.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Blaze420 on 12:21:58 AM / 03-May-05
I cant believe someone actually did it... hows the increase in performance? After everything said and done what was the total cost of the project.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 11:53:34 AM / 03-May-05
If you are lucky enough to get a ball bearing type turbo, you could save even more on a project like this.  A ball bearing turbo would not need the expensive electric pump that mc bought.  It could use a stand alone type system built around a diesal fuel pump and use a lighter lubricant like jet engines use.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Joel07 on 12:04:10 PM / 03-May-05
Yeah, but most ball bearing turbos would offset the cost of that pump quite a bit...  ;)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 12:36:46 PM / 03-May-05
Well, If you go to \'pick-em-apart\' type junkyards, you can get pretty lucky.  I have found everything from superchargers to CD collections to weapons to expensive electronic diagnostic eqpt (which I just walked out with and claimed it was my own tools).
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:54:14 PM / 03-May-05
It killed me to spend 180 bucks for that pump...damn car only cost 350!!!anyway, I\'m happy with the results....i spent today taking the turbo back off and installing a better inlet flange as well as repositioning the turbo so it sits up higher...removed the muffler\'s heat shield and you gain alot more room...it allowed me to tilt the turbo more so the oil outlet is facing further downward[better drainage]....it looks better back there now[not so obvious that a turbo is hanging off the ass]...i might follow Crowbar\'s suggestion and downsize the inlet pipe to 2\" from the 2.5\".....and i need to pick up a cheap bov.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Cavi Mike on 04:11:38 PM / 03-May-05
I started a post like an hour ago, but it timed out and I lost everything I typed and I got REALLY ****ING PISSED, but I\'ll sum it up quick without quotes and I\'ll give you my quick advice;

Intercoolers are NOT necessary

MC, when, I emphasise when you run a hard pipe from the turbo, use 2 inch pipe. Less lag, less pressure loss.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 06:21:03 PM / 03-May-05
In the \'lost\' thread, I had a link to another project car (not STS but someone like mc) and its actually best to go with a smallish exhaust (2\"-2 1/8\") and a slightly larger output pipe (2.25-2.36\").  Over the distance from cat to turbo, it makes a difference in overall volume/velocity of the exhaust gases.  And the exhaust gases are running the turbo.  Decrease the exhaust pipe, get better response.  It is probably a good idea to go stainless for the exhaust pipe.

I never for a second doubted that this would work.  As long as you do not go ape-sized on the turbo, and keep the pipes small, you will get performance.  I bet even better mileage.  I would not back the timing back that much.  Somewhere between 15-20 degrees would be about right.

I have BOV and other turbo parts.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 06:44:20 PM / 03-May-05
What is your total outlay for parts at this time?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:31:35 PM / 03-May-05
T3 turbo with oil lines/fittings/ tb inlet pipe 100.00.....Mocal pump 180.00.....stainless steel flexpipe 25 ft 50.00....3/16\" brake line 25 ft roll/fittings  25.00...12/14 guage wire 10.00...clamps/hangers/brackets 15.00....shielded wire 5.00....hi pressure 3/8\" return hose 5.00....more or less this is everything.....i have enough extra to do another car.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:30:58 PM / 03-May-05
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In the \'lost\' thread, I had a link to another project car (not STS but someone like mc) and its actually best to go with a smallish exhaust (2\\\"-2 1/8\\\") and a slightly larger output pipe (2.25-2.36\\\").  Over the distance from cat to turbo, it makes a difference in overall volume/velocity of the exhaust gases.  And the exhaust gases are running the turbo.  Decrease the exhaust pipe, get better response.  It is probably a good idea to go stainless for the exhaust pipe.

I never for a second doubted that this would work.  As long as you do not go ape-sized on the turbo, and keep the pipes small, you will get performance.  I bet even better mileage.  I would not back the timing back that much.  Somewhere between 15-20 degrees would be about right.

I have BOV and other turbo parts.
Crowbar, i set at 10* figuring thats what the 88-89 turbo cars used....i think they had similar higher compression than the earlier turbo cars but used a t25 instead of a t3....i\'ll bump it up to 20 and see how it responds....i\'m using a 86 300z n/a ecu/afm which is a little richer so it should help out more now. I have enough leftover 2\" pipe to replace the 2.5\" to try and see if it will get a better response.If you have a BOV mounted on a 2\" pipe, i am interested.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 11:19:50 AM / 04-May-05
I am beginning to wonder if a BOV is even needed.  Mainly because of the extremely large volume that is being pressurized.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: bartc_j on 11:26:57 AM / 04-May-05
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I am beginning to wonder if a BOV is even needed.  Mainly because of the extremely large volume that is being pressurized.


the larger the volume the more a bov is needed if you want to reduce lag between shifts and damage to the turbo
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 04:25:23 PM / 04-May-05
The basic STS kit does not include a BOV
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:12:22 AM / 05-May-05
I was reading in the Chilton book on the 81/82 280zx turbo cars use a device called VCV[vacuum control valve] or deceleration control system.Seems this would be a easy way to add cheap bov benefits....it threads into the 280zx intake but I would install before the t/b....its similar in size to a pcv....any thoughts???..........i up\'d the initial timing to 15* and it feels great and smoothedout the idle to rock steady....pulls 25hg/vacuum at 850rpm.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Cavi Mike on 09:25:39 AM / 05-May-05
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the larger the volume the more a bov is needed if you want to reduce lag between shifts and damage to the turbo

That doesn\'t make sense. The more area to pressurize, the longer it takes to pressurize it, therefore the pressure build-up won\'t be as violent. And about lag, if the turbo is still building up pressure, it\'s gonna release all of it directly into the intake as soon as you hit the gas. Atmospheric blow off valves aren\'t good for performance in the first place, recirculatory bypass valves are.

About the STS, is it a draw-through system?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 02:12:39 PM / 05-May-05
Its volume but yes its acting like a big spring.  Unless mc finds an adjustable wastegate that starts upping his boost levels, I would wait till other developments like the smaller exhaust tube, timing, etc.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Joel07 on 03:03:13 PM / 05-May-05
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About the STS, is it a draw-through system?


No, it\'s exactly like mc\'s setup more or less...
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:40:50 AM / 07-May-05
I was in Home Depot today and noticed they sell a ceramic type thermal wrap for insulating hot and cold application[pipes/heat ducts,etc]..much cheaper than header wrap..its good for up to 180*.Anyone think this will hold up to after the cat convertor up to the turbo??
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:49:02 AM / 07-May-05
Just wanted to post that if you have A/C system there is plenty of room  for this mod.The t/b feed pipe would clear the back of the compressor with no problem.Also it would fit on the auto cars.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 08:07:57 AM / 07-May-05
Man....after you get all the bugs worked out you need to get this thing on a lift and take some good pics.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 09:26:04 AM / 07-May-05
The CAT generates heat in addition to the normal exhaust temp.  In the summer it would get plenty hot.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 10:27:25 AM / 07-May-05
an interesting home project

[url]http://members.shaw.ca/toymr2/Handcrafted_Air-to-Water_IC_Project.htm[/a]

An interesting \'cool\' product..wrap around intake pipe?

[url]http://www.techniicealaska.com/instructions.htm[/a]
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Alex Frost on 11:16:20 AM / 07-May-05
Sorry it took me so long to post this for you...
 
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/teamfrost/IMG_02031.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Keith on 12:05:51 PM / 07-May-05
Got any complete pics yet?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 01:32:47 PM / 07-May-05
Is turboed air going into the valve cover?  What effect will this have on the PCV?    I suppose it will \'feel\' it on both sides but the additional piston \'draw\' will make the difference?

I like the fact that for the blown air theres a much wider path to take those final turns.  It actually looks better than many stock cars intake path.

Perhaps some heat wrap for the intake near the exhaust?  I would not want the steady state exhaust heat to get to the intake pipe.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Alex Frost on 07:32:25 PM / 07-May-05
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Is turboed air going into the valve cover? What effect will this have on the PCV? I suppose it will \'feel\' it on both sides but the additional piston \'draw\' will make the difference?

I think the CA18ET is setup the same way isn\'t it???
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Dan0myte on 07:57:25 PM / 07-May-05
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I think the CA18ET is setup the same way isn\'t it???
No. If you\'re talking about the PCV Valve, that takes air from the crankcase (through an oil seperator) and blows it back into the top end. What I think Crowbar is talking about is the line running to the crankcase ventilation port. On the CA18ET, the tube from the ventilation port is is routed to the intake tube, before the turbo. The vacuum of air rushing into the turbo helps evacuate gases from the top end.
 
Don\'t run your engine with this current setup MC. You\'re forcing air down into the crankcase and increasing the windage losses by the pistons and crankcase. Plus, you may start blowing oil seals depending on how much boost you run. Put a K&N breather filter on there instead and plug off that port on the intake tube.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jsvob03 on 09:06:50 PM / 07-May-05
...or find some sort of 1-way check valve?!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:16:57 PM / 07-May-05
Thanks for the tip on the crankcase hose mistake....i'll block it off for the time being....i guess i could run a vacuum line to the back and connect to before the turbo
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:54:59 PM / 07-May-05
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Is turboed air going into the valve cover?  What effect will this have on the PCV?    I suppose it will \'feel\' it on both sides but the additional piston \'draw\' will make the difference?

I like the fact that for the blown air theres a much wider path to take those final turns.  It actually looks better than many stock cars intake path.

Perhaps some heat wrap for the intake near the exhaust?  I would not want the steady state exhaust heat to get to the intake pipe.
yeah some wrap placed there would help......though,that pipe gets barely warm....no need for traditional intercooler.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 10:33:03 PM / 07-May-05
Hey Dan, that\'s metered air too.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 11:51:09 PM / 07-May-05
The 300zxt pcv diagram shows that its tapping air before the turbo also.  It is metered air and its always best to get that after the MFU and before the turbo.  A one way valve could also be used.  Basically its pushed closed when theres boost.

The 300zxt also has a pop off type unit tapped into the manifold.  Its a round device Ive seen on them.  Basically it protects in case the wastegate gets shut.

The PCV works by drawing air into the crankcase and then sucking air/gases through the PCV under certain vacuum conditions.  Is Dan saying the flow path is otherwise?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Dan0myte on 01:32:08 AM / 08-May-05
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The PCV works by drawing air into the crankcase and then sucking air/gases through the PCV under certain vacuum conditions. Is Dan saying the flow path is otherwise?
Woah, hold on. You\'re thinking in reverse. PCV does not draw air INTO the crankcase. It draws air OUT OF the crankcase. A rubber tube takes that excess pressure that has built up in the bottom end of the engine and allows it to pass upwards into the intake manifold.
 
In the CA18ET\'s case, the air passes through a large oil stopper mounted on the oil filter housing. This stops oil from plugging up your intake manifold. Then the clean air goes up from this to the little \"L\" on the intake manifold, then routes to the PCV valve, which allows this gas to escape into the intake manifold.
 
But anyways, that\'s off topic. We\'re talking about MC pressurizing his oil passages by routing post-turbo air into the vent hole.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 11:15:20 AM / 08-May-05
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No. If you\'re talking about the PCV Valve, that takes air from the crankcase (through an oil seperator) and blows it back into the top end. What I think Crowbar is talking about is the line running to the crankcase ventilation port. On the CA18ET, the tube from the ventilation port is is routed to the intake tube, before the turbo. The vacuum of air rushing into the turbo helps evacuate gases from the top end.  
  
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I am talking about this statement.

The \"vacuum of air rushing into the turbo helps evacuate gases from the top end\".  Thats not correct.  The air is drawn into that pipe normally.  It flows into it and through the crankcase and then through the pcv into the top end.  You seem to imply that the flow is reversed.

In any case, it doesnt matter.  Didnt you call this rear mounted turbo technology garbage in the \'lost\' thread?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Dan0myte on 12:23:00 PM / 08-May-05
Yep, I did.There\'s no doubting that it works, but it\'s still extremely ghetto and there are a lot of safety concerns doing a turbo setup this way.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 01:00:53 PM / 08-May-05
So, its gone from \'garbage\' to \'ghetto\'?  Are these Canadian engineering terms?

It does work and any \'ghetto\' factor can be written off as just personal opinion.  

Maybe you should alert the company that is selling this product about your safety concerns.  Better yet, tell us what you think they are.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Dan0myte on 01:30:27 PM / 08-May-05
Ok, give the tough guy attitude a rest for a while. This is what happened in the last thread, and it\'s headed that way again. So just stop.
 
All I want to say is congratulations to MC for completing his project and all the best of luck in the future. Hopefully it works out for you.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:05:29 PM / 08-May-05
I have a couple extra brake booster one way valves  laying around.....would these work alright???auto part stores carry these in differant sizes???Yup.. its ghettolicious!!!whatup are the safety concerns???...besides my shizzle gettin ups to speed two fast!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200SXXEnotchbck86 on 03:13:06 PM / 08-May-05
So, uh, those vise grips.  Is that your Dizzy clamp?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 04:22:56 PM / 08-May-05
Its a shnizzy dizzy ghetto-clamp
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:58:32 PM / 08-May-05
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So, uh, those vise grips. Is that your Dizzy clamp?
....TOO FUNNY...instantaneusosly rightjously adjustable...extra fizzle...its chromey,my homey!!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200SXXEnotchbck86 on 06:19:55 PM / 08-May-05
I thought thats what it was for, I didn\'t notice it there right away.  Those things come in handy don\'t they.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:05:57 PM / 08-May-05
YEAH...I snapped the hold down bolt.PIA.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:45:59 AM / 09-May-05
Could someone tell me which of the following vacuum lines are ported or full time vacuum....charcoal canister top hose?egr hose that runs down along the rear of engine and disappears from easy view?also if you can say where they are actually hooked into would help[before AFM or after,...t/b.,etc]..i\'ve lost track with my custom set up and trying to make sure its right.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 10:43:13 AM / 09-May-05
[url]http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=407098&page=1[/a]

Another fascinating discussion

[url]http://www.lextreme.com/tt.html[/a]

twin turbo lexus remote?  chemically intercooled?

[url]http://www.snowperformance.net/[/a]
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:09:38 PM / 09-May-05
I rerouted the 2\" pressure flex pipe that runs up to the t/b from the turbo...i was able to eliminate a foot of pipe...not much.. but i\'m sure it will help build boost alittle faster....i ordered a real t3 inlet flange which I will downsize the exhaust from 2.5 to 2 after the cat\"....i\'ll be wrapping this pipe with heat wrap....i\'m hoping this change will build boost sooner overall....manual boost controller arrived today...nothing fancy....basic.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:36:46 AM / 10-May-05
Crowbar...do you think all the vacuum lines running off the t/b[egr,fuel pressure solinoid,charcoal canister,etc] should have one way valves installed???Iblocked off the mistake line that was attached to the crankcase but was now wondering about other lines.thx.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 05:03:33 PM / 10-May-05
They dont appear to have anything like that on a VG30ET.  If you wanted to \'valve\' the egr, just activate the solenoid and it \'crimps\' that charged air from getting to the egr.  Same for the fuel pressure regulator.  Will have to look into FSM for turbo cars.

The Pressure Control module (not the ecu) controls this for the fuel pressure regulator.  If these modules are the same for turbo/non-turbo, I wouldnt worry.

The charcoal can gets full blast (no solenoid).
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 10:19:31 PM / 10-May-05
I predict overall drivability will be better once you go to a smaller exhaust.  It will help low end non-boosted as well as mid range/top-end.

On a stock turbo, the actual volume of \'exhaust\' is usually very small in comparison to the intake volume.  You have it reversed.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:17:18 AM / 25-Jun-05
Its time for a update on this project.....I finally got around to using the proper T3 flange with a 2\" mandrel curve fit on the turbo...i picked up some copper impregnated header wrap and installed that from the back of the cat to the turbo[mostly anyway]....THE heat wrap works great and the AFM is better protected now as well...it gained a little more punch on the bottom end from these changes.....it is still running great...pulls 20.5hg at a steady 850rpm.... good oil pressure....fast idle has been fine....I\'m looking into a better fuel pump or maybe a add on in line pump  as well as RRFPR to add more fuel under boost...I still have to dig out the timing device[VC200] and take some 0-60 runs.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Keith on 08:35:52 AM / 25-Jun-05
how about some pics............. ;)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 09:07:31 AM / 25-Jun-05
You should try the throttle body potentiometer pot trick if you have one.  KA24e throttle bodies have rotary pots as well as TPS.  The pot can be made to trick out the cyl head temp sensor.  As the throttle is opened, the rotary pot in parallel will change the sensed chts (seeing a cooler head).  The ecu will jump up the fuel and timing as if the car was cold.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:54:43 AM / 27-Jun-05
....thanks for the tip....your talking about the TPS which has the extra wire/connection attachment???splice this TPS connection between the stock CHTS and harness???
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 06:10:34 AM / 27-Jun-05
Yes its the extra connector that many KA24e have.  But I am specifically using a Stanza KA24e early 90s throttle body.  The TPS is a limit switch setup and the potentiomer is a rotary varying resistance.  An interesting thing is that California 300zx (at least the 88 ) have potentiometers as well as TPS.

On my potentiometer, there are three wires running to the connector.  The wires are red, white and black.

If you have a chts that works, you will want to have a switch that interupts this connection when the car is cold started.  This is because the ecu needs to see a high resistance from the chts when its cold.

If you have a multimeter, measure the potentiomers resistance looking into the red and black wires as you move the throttle.  You should see a varying resistance as a function of throttle opening.  I will measure the resistance and how it interacts with the chts negative response thermsitor characteristic but I am only basing this on my own throttle pot resistance range.  Measure resistance between red and black, red and white, white and black and do it at idle and full throttle for all cases.

The trick is that the ecu will respond to the \'chts\' resistance as it varys with throttle opening.  The ecu is fast enough to take this into account.  As the throttle opens, the fuel curve will be set for a cooler head temp.  The timing will also be advanced.

Another trick with TPS is to get one for a auto tranny car (if you have a stick car of course) and use the throttle position switch (TPS) signal for full throttle position (stick cars TPS have only off idle switch not full throttle).

The full throttle position can then be made to trick out the fuel temp sensor.  The fuel temp sensor is similar to the chts in that its a negative going resistance with heat rise.  You would want to \'trick\' this sensor by making the resistance seen to be \'hotter\' than it actually is.  The ecu compensates for hot fuel by enrichening the pwm of the injectors.  I imagine this can also be done in parrallel with the parallel connection only being made under full throttle.  A resistor sized to appear (or make the parallel connection appear) \'hot\' gets kicked in.

This is all simple stuff and can be done for pennys.  The one thing you do not want to do is have a break or discontinuity in resistance seen.  This will trigger an error signal.  The ecu must be fooled that somehow resistance has changed and it must respond according to its program.

Edit:  I will post a wiring diagram
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 08:12:04 AM / 27-Jun-05
This is the temp response of the chts thermistor.  If you unplug this and measure into it you should see these resistances under these temp conditions

20 C 68 deg F (2.3Kohm-2.7 kohm)
50 C 122 deg F (770-870 ohm)
80 C 176 deg F (300-330 ohm)

Note the resistance goes down as the temp goes up.

If your car is \'cold\' and the temp outside is around 70 deg F, then your measurement should be in the 2.3-2,7Kohm range.  Drive your car and get it up to temp.  Unplug and measure again.  It should be around 300-330 ohms.

If its open (Megaohms) or nearly zero (short) then you have a bad chts.  They are a pain to change.

I run without it.  I wire the leads directly into the throttle pot. At idle my car thinks its getting 770 ohms or around 122 F.  At full throttle it thinks its about 40 below.  To start my car, I give it a slight 1/4 throttle opening (increases resistance and car sees \'cold\') and it fires.  I use the black and white wires.

When I wanted to get an emissions test, I layed a 500 ohm resistor across this in parrallel.  Car passed easy.   This made the \'seen\' resistance around 300 ohms pretty much across the throttle opening range.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 06:53:06 AM / 29-Jun-05
Notice that chts also impacts how the injection is controlled.  So does RPM and starting.

But if you can trick out the chts sensed by the ecu, you can make the FI pulse width modulation change earlier.



[url]http://img72.echo.cx/img72/8784/fi2ap.png[/a]

NOTE: this is from the 88 300zx field service manual.  It may not apply to earlier 300zx or 200sxse cars.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 11:28:35 AM / 30-Jun-05
chts:
I just read that chts are different on different 300zx year models.

For 1987 and later 300zx, the chts is the same as the 200sxse.  Its output resistance follows what I posted above.

1986 and earlier have a different chts response.  A few guys here run 86 300zx ecus.  So I suppose they should use a correct chts for that ecu.  The 87 and later is just a narrower range of resistance response.  More than likely, there is no need to change.

fuel pressure regulator

The 300zx vg30et has a spec for a higher fp once the throttle is mashed.  I suppose that means the fpr is different for a turbo.  The 88 300zx turbo also has a surge tank somewhere in the fuel system.  It gives capability to flow more fuel under boost.

It might be worthwhile to investigate the vacuum line control to the FPR in turbo cars.  It appears to be different than a VG30e.

A neat trick would be to just have a means to cut vacuum to the FPR as a function of boost.  This is done by feeding the voltage to the solenoid controlling the FPR vacuum.  It just pinches off the vacuum.  As the vacuum goes to zero, you get max fuel pressure.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:57:26 PM / 01-Jul-05
Crowbar...nice job posting the 300zx turbo similarities/differances....looks like my current set up with the latest pipe/ flange/wrap/clamp changes starts making boost in second gear at 2800rpm and pulls strong to redline....i havent upped the boost because its going to lean out with this n/a set up....its to much fun to brake something now.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 07:51:57 AM / 02-Jul-05
A simple test would be to just disconnect the vac hose to the FPR and see if it feels better with max fuel pressure while running around.

Another cheap test would be to measure the fuel temp resistance and then parallel a similar sized resistor.  More than likely, the fuel temp resistance will be about 2 Kohm or so.  Find a 2 Kohm resistor and just wire it in from the connector to ground.  The seen resistance will be about 1 Kohm (meaning hotter gas temp) and the ecu will enrich the mixture.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:02:26 PM / 02-Jul-05
i\'ll try disconnecting that vacuum line to the FPR.CROWBAR, does the 300zx turbo fuel pump drop into the 200sx tank???
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 06:33:30 PM / 02-Jul-05
[url]http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2559/gas7im.png[/a]

The 200sx has a fuel pump and level float built in.  The 300zx has a seperate sending unit.  It might be possible to just strip out the electric motor part if you get a turbo fuel pump.

[url]http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7833/surge9vk.png[/a]

This pic shows the surge tank for the FPR.  It actually seems to direct pressurized air back against the FPR.  I wonder if boosted air can damge the FPR unless a system like this is used.

In any case, this vacuum control solenoid is different.  And perhaps the control from the ecu for it.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Crowbar60 on 01:36:36 PM / 18-Jul-05
The VG30ET AAV does appear to be the same as the non-turbo IAA unit.  I have two of these by the way.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:16:47 PM / 02-Sep-05
Sorry I havent posted any updates on the remote turbo project.....its still running and boosting.....someone else try this upgrade...i'm really disappointed the board banned Crowbar.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Blaze420 on 09:26:20 AM / 08-Sep-05
i am putting my SE up for the NY winter comming up and am seriously thinking about doing this mod along with the pathfinder intake manifold conversion.  One question i do have is where did you run the pipe from the turbo bake to the intake manifold, did you have to cut a hole in your fire wall? Also the intake piece that you use how much custom fabrication went into that?  I think i would run 2\" piping back from the cat to the T25 turbo with possibly 2\" back, think i should go smaller running it back up? Ive been researching it alot it would be cool to have 2 remote turbo SE\'s running around.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:57:42 PM / 11-Sep-05
....it was fitted past the steering column/engine up to the z31 turbo intake connection[2\" diameter]...turbo flange was welded up at a muffler shop[just bring them the correct flange and a mandrel bend pipe which has been measured and position orientated for your set up....simple stuff once the turbo is hung in place back there.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Ju_S12_Turbo on 06:20:01 PM / 29-Nov-05
Do you have any videos of the car running]? and how is the lag?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:56:24 AM / 30-Nov-05
Sorry no video...i can send some pictures....just ask what part you want to see...there is a little lag but boost builds strong in second gear[5-6 lbs] around 2500rpm.....presenty i\'m working with a x-member Crowbar adding a 7th injector[need to enrich the fuel mixture] as well as a water/alky injection set up....i\'m also planning on changing the rear and or tire height to get a better gear ratio so the boost builds earlier.....the car runs excellent under the stock ECU..starts on the first try..never stalls...stays at fast idle[1200rpm] and idles down to a rock steady 700rpm...very responsive...revs smooth...sounds nasty...gets the same gas milage/sometimes better[no joking]..if you want to turbo the 3.0 its the fast and easy and cheap way to go[i have actually remounted the turbo higher so it looks a little better....trust me, even a \"rear turbo\" turns the car into a ANIMAL.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Ju_S12_Turbo on 12:47:19 AM / 04-Dec-05
That is so bad ass, the thought of it is cool and knowing someone has done it makes it that much cooler. good work on it and not going halfway then stoping
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:23:46 AM / 01-Apr-06
Last couple posts were lost in the crash so its time for a update...i added a rising rate fuel pressre regulator,BEGI 8025,it works by upping the fuel pressure when it detects boost which in turn makes the stock injectors flow more fuel....second upgrade was a cheapo water/alky injection set up...used a spare stock 200sx windshieldwasher reservoir/pump and mounted where the stock airbox used to be located...the system is triggered by a Hobbs boost switch ...a McMaster-Carr misting nozzle is installed in the elbow thats before the throttebody.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:52:59 PM / 03-Apr-06
I had to get it to a safety/emission inspection today[expired].I was a little concerned it might  fail the tests due to all the upgrades.It passed with no problem at all.The car was run with the 1986 300zx non-turbo ECU/AFM............................. HC LIMIT .80 RESULT .64     CO LIMIT 15.0 RESULT 3.9   NOx LIMIT 2.00 RESULT  .48 ....ITS GOOD FOR ANOTHER YEAR!!!...next upgrade is a turbo 300ZX ECU and larger injectors.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 09:04:40 PM / 03-Apr-06
very cool.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 11:11:14 PM / 03-Apr-06
Use photobucket.com and post pics please.

 
For what it\'s worth, this is what I feel is the BEST choice for an SE owner who wants boost.
 
As an added idea, you can heatsink the sides of the pipe if you\'re worried about heat, but frankly, from the V8 guys who\'ve done this quite a bit, it doesn\'t need it.
 
Like I said, get pics. And get a list of things you did, i.e. parts list, costs, basic project steps (not actuall \"how to\" steps, just more like \"1. Run pipe to back, 2. make turbo mounts, etc.)
 
PICS PICS PICS!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jsvob03 on 10:10:57 PM / 04-Apr-06
im jealous....its either remote mount, $6000 for NA V6 power, or Turbo 4 swap...crap!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 10:30:57 PM / 04-Apr-06
Umm 6K sounds a bit steep to me, the thunderbird 4.6L v8 guys are doing it for a shitload less.... and those cars are trickier.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jsvob03 on 08:33:25 AM / 05-Apr-06
im just throwin out a number, but to achieve 400 NA horsepower from the VG, would require quite a bit of work.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:45:54 PM / 06-Apr-06
Anyone who wants to see a picture just e-mail me want you want...  you can post them here...i cant seem to figure that out...I might be moving the turbo closer to the rear axle and getting a dump/outlet flange to make room for a muffler.I\'d like to try and quite it down abit.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:46:21 PM / 07-Apr-06
no offense taken...i\'ll figure it out one of these days,years,ect!!!...i picked up a 90 degree bend 2\" diameter silicone hose today....pretty nice....its going to allow me to raise the turbo a couple inches higher.My turbo ECU from a 1986 300zx should be delivered tomorrow as well.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 12:18:07 AM / 08-Apr-06
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no offense taken...i\'ll figure it out one of these days,years,ect!!!...i picked up a 90 degree bend 2\\\" diameter silicone hose today....pretty nice....its going to allow me to raise the turbo a couple inches higher.My turbo ECU from a 1986 300zx should be delivered tomorrow as well.

Hahaha there\'s nothing to figure out! Just go to the thread, it\'s ALL PICTURES! LOL
 
DO IT, we want this thread WITH PICS!!!!!
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!!!!!!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:51:59 PM / 18-Apr-06
i installed the 90 degree bend today and then decided to try and reconfigure how the downpipe faces....i spun the turbo so the two pipes feeding in /out of the turbo are on the left and the downpipe is now on the right...this will allow me to install some form of a muffler on this setup...a straight bullet type muffler should fit and quite in down.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:58:50 PM / 21-Apr-06
i picked up one of those Ebay T3 oil inlet flanges to help me reconfigure the oil feed...much better than the old leaky prior set up.....i ordered the muffler through JC Whitney..its a tube design with 3\"in/out and 4\" at its widest.its going to fit between the gas tank and the rear apron[hopefully?]....it should mellow out the turbo spooling noise that was getting annoying....i took some more pix and will get around to posting.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:25:08 PM / 07-May-06
Mounted up that tube muffler I purchased from JC Whitney....it fits fine where i mounted it between the fuel tank and rear apron..it now sounds more like a throaty muscle car ...alot more enjoyable to drive now.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:01:47 PM / 03-Jul-06
Not to much new to report...I decided to rewrap the pipe from the cat to the turbo...its now heavy insulated wrapped to retain the exhaust heat.I then wrapped the "wrap" with heavy foil HVAC tape to keep the exhaust wrap weatherproofed from driving in the rain...its holding up fine in this hot NY summer so far!!I picked up a set of 300zx turbo injectors to match the turbo ECU....I bought a spare upper intake and port matched it up to the 60mm Stanza throttlebody.I used a Dremel tool and carbide bit and easily opened up the inlet.I need to get these parts installed ASAP!!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Joel07 on 02:53:28 PM / 04-Jul-06
Well, let me just say thanks for the updates, and if I haven't said it already, congradulations (been a while since I posted in this thread).  For all the doubts that we all had, you made it work, and seem to be enjoying the fruits of your labor.  This is a setup I never would have considered on anything other than a large cubic inch V8 car, but I have to admit, I've had thoughts of doing the same thing with my Maxima now.  Makes it a lot easier because there's no permanent modifications you have to do, and if you don't like it, it'd be easy enough to swap out for the stock stuff.  I'll be sure to update you all if I actually go through with it!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:48:18 PM / 04-Jul-06
Quote from: Joel07
Well, let me just say thanks for the updates, and if I haven't said it already, congradulations (been a while since I posted in this thread).  For all the doubts that we all had, you made it work, and seem to be enjoying the fruits of your labor.  This is a setup I never would have considered on anything other than a large cubic inch V8 car, but I have to admit, I've had thoughts of doing the same thing with my Maxima now.  Makes it a lot easier because there's no permanent modifications you have to do, and if you don't like it, it'd be easy enough to swap out for the stock stuff.  I'll be sure to update you all if I actually go through with it!
Thanks for the support...i noticed its the most popular thread here,its closing in on four thousand views!!.Definitely give it try on a Maxima[what year???]...i'd love some other vg30 installations of this mod....i really love driving it now since the muffler install.The pump was annoying initially but i figured it needed a free floating mount to make the vibrations /pump hum diminish.It can be such an inexpensive project if you look for the right parts/people.The Mocal pump can be replaced with a much cheaper Shurflo model[i'm happy with the Mocal though]...Ebay and Crowbar made this project happen.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:51:53 PM / 08-Jul-06
I spent the past two days tearing down the upper intake,cleaning out the gunk,painting and replacing the injectors with the turbo set...installed the turbo ecu and it fired right up.It pulls so much harder now..Anyway, it is holding a rock steady idle and pulling over 20 on the vacuum guage.i need to adapt a couple more of the 300z turbo parts[idle and fuel ] to finish.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: silvia love on 11:57:30 PM / 10-Jul-06
pics?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: EightySix200SX on 04:02:48 PM / 11-Jul-06
can u email any pics you have to eightysix200sx@yahoo.com thanks in advance id love to see how this project is going.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: silvia love on 04:26:07 PM / 11-Jul-06
Quote from: EightySix200SX
can u email any pics you have to eightysix200sx@yahoo.com thanks in advance id love to see how this project is going.
yeah then you post them with photobucket
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: EightySix200SX on 07:13:17 PM / 11-Jul-06
Quote from: silvia love
yeah then you post them with photobucket

yea ill do that... when there sent
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:26:01 PM / 11-Jul-06
Quote from: EightySix200SX
yea ill do that... when there sent
pix sent ...thx,mike.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: G-E on 04:00:23 AM / 14-Jul-06
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chts:
I just read that chts are different on different 300zx year models.
For 1987 and later 300zx, the chts is the same as the 200sxse.  Its output resistance follows what I posted above.
1986 and earlier have a different chts response.  A few guys here run 86 300zx ecus.  So I suppose they should use a correct chts for that ecu.  The 87 and later is just a narrower range of resistance response.  More than likely, there is no need to change.
fuel pressure regulator

actually the 87+ ecus have a failsafe so that if the chts is out of range (ie stupidly low or high) they will ignore it, unlike earlier ecus which will enrich accordingly to readings

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The 300zx vg30et has a spec for a higher fp once the throttle is mashed.  I suppose that means the fpr is different for a turbo.  The 88 300zx turbo also has a surge tank somewhere in the fuel system.  It gives capability to flow more fuel under boost.
It might be worthwhile to investigate the vacuum line control to the FPR in turbo cars.  It appears to be different than a VG30e.
A neat trick would be to just have a means to cut vacuum to the FPR as a function of boost.  This is done by feeding the voltage to the solenoid controlling the FPR vacuum.  It just pinches off the vacuum.  As the vacuum goes to zero, you get max fuel pressure.

that's wrong, the vg30 fpr and I would assume most others uses vacuum or boost to soften or stiffen the fpr diaphram, as boost builds it increases fuel pressure by exactly that amount, and as vacuum increases fuel pressure drops..... except that it has a solenoid to prevent vacuum from making it too lean under certain circumstances, the solenoid isn't used during normal driving and the fp is always a fixed psi relative to the manifold

oh and z31 turbo and non-turbo fuel pumps are identical
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:06:05 PM / 14-Jul-06
Quote from: G-E
actually the 87+ ecus have a failsafe so that if the chts is out of range (ie stupidly low or high) they will ignore it, unlike earlier ecus which will enrich accordingly to readings
that's wrong, the vg30 fpr and I would assume most others uses vacuum or boost to soften or stiffen the fpr diaphram, as boost builds it increases fuel pressure by exactly that amount, and as vacuum increases fuel pressure drops..... except that it has a solenoid to prevent vacuum from making it too lean under certain circumstances, the solenoid isn't used during normal driving and the fp is always a fixed psi relative to the manifold

oh and z31 turbo and non-turbo fuel pumps are identical
thanks for posting some info...i might try bypassing the fuel solinoid just to see if there is much of a differance.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: SONUVA Z on 02:25:25 PM / 19-Jul-06
Hope this works!!! this is MC's remote turbo. Slicker than goose poop.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m288/sonuvaz/IMG_0795.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: starbucks on 02:43:05 PM / 19-Jul-06
looks nice, so this thing im guessing is designed to remove the back-pressure in the exhaust? pretty ingenious idea, specially considering ive never heard of doing this before
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:37:07 PM / 21-Jul-06
Quote from: SONUVA Z
Hope this works!!! this is MC's remote turbo. Slicker than goose poop.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m288/sonuvaz/IMG_0795.jpg)
Pete...thanks for getting the pix linked!!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: rage on 04:21:03 PM / 23-Jul-06
awesome, how were running the oil/water lines?
are you going to intercool it? its looking pretty good.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:42:02 PM / 23-Jul-06
Quote from: rage
awesome, how were running the oil/water lines?
are you going to intercool it? its looking pretty good.
thanks, rage.. the oil lines were easy...i used regular 3/16"brake line replacement tubing and spliced it to the stock 300zx turbo banjo fitting that mounts on the block..i just carefully formed/shaped/tucked it up against the frame rails and zip tied it to the stock lines that run to the rear of the car...the return line  feeds into the Mocal pump and 3/8"  steel tubing/fittings/high pressure hose returns to the front of car...originally the oil entered back through the oil filler cap but now its through a added nipple on the passanger side rear valve cover...it looks cleaner now...No water lines were used for my turbo set up[my T3 wasnt equipped]..i really dont think there needed because the turbo run smuch cooler back there anyway!..no plans for intercooling yet,i use my simple alky/meth injector set up...and if i add a intercooler its probably going to be under the car and not up front.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: panda s12 on 12:12:35 AM / 29-Jul-06
you won't need a intercooler i did a sts project on my frieds 96 mustang. if you intercool u will have massive lag i tried it and its not needed.

Quote from: panda s12
you won't need a intercooler i did a sts project on my frieds 96 mustang. if you intercool u will have massive lag i tried it and its not needed.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:01:30 AM / 02-Aug-06
Quote from: panda s12
you won't need a intercooler i did a sts project on my frieds 96 mustang. if you intercool u will have massive lag i tried it and its not needed.
i wouldnt go with a front mount intercooler because it would just be adding more piping and this set up has enough of that already!....i might try one of those straight through types and mount it inline under the car,this way there is really nothing added...i can easily cut out a section of pressure pipe and splice in the intercooler...i'm sure there is enough air flow under the car to make it work reasonably effective.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jsvob03 on 08:13:16 PM / 02-Aug-06
Quote from: mc
i wouldnt go with a front mount intercooler because it would just be adding more piping and this set up has enough of that already!....i might try one of those straight through types and mount it inline under the car,this way there is really nothing added...i can easily cut out a section of pressure pipe and splice in the intercooler...i'm sure there is enough air flow under the car to make it work reasonably effective.

i know its even more custom that the Remote Mount, but what about a Top-Mount Intercooler like on the Suburu's? all you would need is a hole in the hood, piping, and you're set. just a thought...
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:38:43 PM / 03-Aug-06
Quote from: Jsvob03
i know its even more custom that the Remote Mount, but what about a Top-Mount Intercooler like on the Suburu's? all you would need is a hole in the hood, piping, and you're set. just a thought...
nice idea,i do have a spare hood now to customize...but i would think the intercooler would get heat soaked rather fast mounted above the engine.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jsvob03 on 06:24:06 PM / 03-Aug-06
Quote from: mc
nice idea,i do have a spare hood now to customize...but i would think the intercooler would get heat soaked rather fast mounted above the engine.

i could see that, but so long as its receiving fresh air arcoss the fins, it would be an upgrade from no intercooler would it not?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jokes801tmc on 06:58:09 PM / 03-Aug-06
Get some thermal wrap for you exhaust mani's and heat soaking should be a problem at all.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:44:27 PM / 03-Aug-06
Quote from: Jokes801tmc
Get some thermal wrap for you exhaust mani's and heat soaking should be a problem at all.
Heat wrap the whole engine for that matter!!!it just seems the intercooler wouldnt be effective enough located there...i would think the combination of radiator and engine heat under a hood scoop intercooler set up has to many drawbacks.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Cavi Mike on 06:22:57 PM / 07-Aug-06
Why intercool? I'm sure the length of pipe running up to the front is catching enough cool air. If the temps are still a little too high for your liking just JB Weld some aluminum fins to the charge pipe and really make it an intercooler. Or you could even go hi-tech and get some Devcon Aluminum Putty but, that stuff can get expensive. Any metal filled epoxy is going to work fine. Just don't dig yourself into another pressure loss with an intercooler, you might not even see a gain.

If you don't believe me about the JB Weld or aluminum putty, check out this website.

http://www.heatsink.com/ (http://www.heatsink.com/)

It's ERM Thermal Technologies, better known around here as Eastern Rochester Manufacturing. Major supplier of heatsinks to the medical industry for MRI's and CAT scanners. I used to run CNC's there and all of our aluminum heatsinks had bonded fins(copper are soldered). The girls in the back would slop on some putty, stick the fins in and throw them in a huge oven overnight. Works like a charm. But honestly, their putty is low-tensile, if you try hard enough you can yank a fin out. They use JB Weld on smaller stuff and you'll tear the aluminum before you get the fin out.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:53:14 PM / 10-Aug-06
Quote from: Cavi Mike
Why intercool? I'm sure the length of pipe running up to the front is catching enough cool air. If the temps are still a little too high for your liking just JB Weld some aluminum fins to the charge pipe and really make it an intercooler. Or you could even go hi-tech and get some Devcon Aluminum Putty but, that stuff can get expensive. Any metal filled epoxy is going to work fine. Just don't dig yourself into another pressure loss with an intercooler, you might not even see a gain.

If you don't believe me about the JB Weld or aluminum putty, check out this website.

http://www.heatsink.com/ (http://www.heatsink.com/)

It's ERM Thermal Technologies, better known around here as Eastern Rochester Manufacturing. Major supplier of heatsinks to the medical industry for MRI's and CAT scanners. I used to run CNC's there and all of our aluminum heatsinks had bonded fins(copper are soldered). The girls in the back would slop on some putty, stick the fins in and throw them in a huge oven overnight. Works like a charm. But honestly, their putty is low-tensile, if you try hard enough you can yank a fin out. They use JB Weld on smaller stuff and you'll tear the aluminum before you get the fin out.
nice idea..i might actually try attaching some aluminum fins to the charge pipe.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:24:02 PM / 30-Jan-07
Quote from: mc
Pete...thanks for getting the pix linked!!
Its been to long since I updated this thread.I was able to get some accelerometer based[vc200] timed runs.Its not drag strip accuracy but it'll have to do.Some of the car magazines used to use the VC200 years ago.Anyway, the 0-60mph is in the 6.6-6.7 sec range..Its recording 235hp.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: SONUVA Z on 08:17:16 AM / 31-Jan-07
Wow! - that's fast dude!

Might want get some seat covers! Good job!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Comrade_BoomStick on 12:25:17 PM / 01-Feb-07
pimp car. that was my second thought after I read that a z31 turbo engine wont just drop in with no mods...my car has like no lag it gets on my nerves some when I just want to keep up with traffic and it starts spooling  but I wouldnt imagen that that would have too much lag... maybe I should add a FMI/C to my car to add some lag... lol. but yea if you used stock engine it should have more power than my engine being that you have 9 compression... I have my t3 turbo set at 13 PSI non intercooled it does fine... and i live in the South
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:23:45 PM / 13-Apr-07
...time for a update...the weather in NY started to get better, so I decided to reroute the cold pipe so it runs under the rear cross member instead of over the top...the cold pipe hangs low a little more now but it allowed the elimination of almost 2 ft of the cold side pipeing....its a more straight shot feed to the front of the car now...i also decided to header wrap the pre-cat down pipes..all of the hot side pipes are now fully wrapped....the car is much more responsive now with these changes.I need to get it state emmisson tested again[expired] and then get some new 0-60mph times..i want to get under 6 seconds!!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Blaze420 on 07:12:23 PM / 13-Apr-07
Quote from: mc
...time for a update...the weather in NY started to get better so I decided to reroute the cold pipe so it runs under the rear cross member instead of over the top...it shows alittle more now but it allowed the elimination of almost 2 ft of the cold side pipeing....its a more straight shot feed to the front of the car now...i also decided to header wrap the pre -cat down pipes..all the hot side pipes are fully wrapped....the car is much more responsive now with these changes.I need to get it state emmisson tested again[expired] and get some new 0-60mph times..i want to get under 6 seconds!!
what part of ny do u live in cuz i live in NY i would definately be interested in doing this project....maybe we can hook up on a weekend if i assemble all the parts and u can help me do this...since youve already done it just a thought thx.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:52:38 AM / 14-Apr-07
Quote from: Blaze420
what part of ny do u live in cuz i live in NY i would definately be interested in doing this project....maybe we can hook up on a weekend if i assemble all the parts and u can help me do this...since youve already done it just a thought thx.
i live in Queens,11422...Mapquest and see how far/close away.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Blaze420 on 01:27:12 PM / 15-Apr-07
Quote from: mc
i live in Queens,11422...Mapquest and see how far/close away.
hah no shit....my dad lives in New City....your like 20 mins from him sick...so if i come down i can stay with my pops! If your interested....im serious about this im gettin like 800 from my taxes and thats what i was ganna use to do this project...maybe you can PM me a parts list so i can see if i can start gettin some pieces. Also i work for advance auto so...i think i might be able to do this a little cheapter than you did employee discounts are the shit
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:12:43 PM / 18-Apr-07
...I took it in for its annual state emissions check-up..it is now using a 1986 300ZX turbo ECU and matching injectors, which was differant than last years check-up run with the 1986 300zx N/A ecu/injectors with the T3 installed...anyway, the good news is the car once again passed the dyno emission test..
LIMIT     HC 0.80     CO 15.0     NOx 2.00
RESULT    HC 0.69     CO 02.4     NOx 0.28
..These readings are almost identical with the prior year...the HC are slightly higher..the test was run with the intial timing set at 17 degrees and idle steady at 800rpm...next year, i'll knock the timing back to 15 and it should pass much cleaner.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:23:35 PM / 07-May-07
New mod plans for this spring/summer..I recently found a rear with 3.54 gears out of a 84-86 300zx turbo..it will help the turbo spool up faster being it puts an additional load on the engine...i also picked up a intercooler from a SVO Ford..nothing fancy,2"in and 2.5" out, its going to be mounted where to stock air filter box used to be located...it fits perfect with the way my pipes feed into that area of the car..i'll be using a couple of fans mounted on the intercooler to keep it cool...i'll mount the 300zx hood scoop above it to help move air into its core.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Spooled on 10:31:55 AM / 08-May-07
I understand how 3.54 gearing will help the turbo to spool faster, but you will probably still accelerate slower due to the higher gearing, than you would with 3.90's.  I don't see the point to that change, unless you're just looking for a better highway cruising rpm or a higher top speed.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:58:06 PM / 08-May-07
...I'm trying to build the boost up as soon as possible by being able to keep it in each gear longer before having to shift gears..the faster the boost comes in, the more power potential..right now,first gear is over to fast using the 3.90 gears...there is no time to build boost,its a quick shift to second gear and it gets annoying...anyway,other sites doing this remote turbo set-up are showing nice improvements by swapping in economy gears[2.73-3.55]..they say the extra load really wakes up a remote turbo system..the better highway cruising is a big side benefit with the price of gas as well...and its easy enough to swap back if the car doesnt respond.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Spooled on 05:58:40 PM / 08-May-07
Ah yes, I hear that.  First gear is much too short in these transmission.  My Z32 Twin Turbo is the same way, even with 3.69 rear gearing - first is useless.  Having a useable first gear would help.  I'm interested in your findings once you get it in.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:08:59 AM / 20-Jul-07
Quote from: Spooled
Ah yes, I hear that.  First gear is much too short in these transmission.  My Z32 Twin Turbo is the same way, even with 3.69 rear gearing - first is useless.  Having a useable first gear would help.  I'm interested in your findings once you get it in.
i've had the 3.55 rear in for a month now...it can now hit 4 lbs boost in first gear ,and the gas milage on the highway is close to 30 mpg...its nice to be able to keep it in first gear much longer...my only complaint is launching the car, you have to rev higher before you let the clutch out in first gear ...the car bogs off the line if you dont get the rpm just right.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:45:23 AM / 25-Jul-07
additional mods update...i replaced a 6ft section of flex pipe on the turbo cool side with a aluminum tubing[2"]...it transfers out the heat better than the stainless steel flex pipe and flows better because there are no internal ridges....i spliced in a Ford SVO intercooler,its a 2" in -2.25 out unit ...its mounted where the stock 200sx air filter would be mounted...i'm using two small fans mounted on its core and foam baffling to force direct cool air from behind the drivers head light...seems to work pretty good for a simple addition...to fit the IC better in that location, i converted the car to a electric fan from a Mecury Mystique,its a decent fan[single with shroad]..its mounted offset to the passanger side and surprisingly picks up a couple of the radiator mounting points.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 07:36:43 PM / 08-Aug-07
Need more pics my friend.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:26:26 AM / 09-Nov-07
i added an additional electric fan from a four cylinder 200sx[10" diameter]...its mounted in front of the radiator and pushes the air through...i wired it into the stock SE radiator sensor[194 degree turn on]...the SE cars have all the mounting holes[3] provided so its a easy upgrade/mod ...i only had to extend the fan shroad a couple inches to have it butt against the radiator because my car isnt equipped with a a/c evap...it pushes air hard enough to feel on the other side of the radiator.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:20:54 PM / 23-Nov-07
..my original radiator developed some pin hole leaks and i decided to have it re-cored...it looks and works like a brand new piece...i've been getting some decent run data on the set-up using the VC200...practicing on the launch technique is paying off...i have the manual boost controller dialed in for 9psi..the Begi RRFPR  is set to add minimal assistance until upper boost setting[on-set screw is out/counterclock-wise]...the meth[HEET] injection kicks in round 7 psi..Initial timing is set at 23-24 deg advance...93 octane fuel
1/4 MILE 14.36@104MPH
0-60MPH    6.1sec
0-30mph    2.5sec
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 10:13:20 PM / 27-Nov-07
That's pretty decent!  I would very much like to see some pics of this, do you have a cardomain or photobucket site at all?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:39:03 PM / 28-Nov-07
Quote from: 200sxkitcar
That's pretty decent!  I would very much like to see some pics of this, do you have a cardomain or photobucket site at all?
...sorry no photobucket...just this lame diary.....anyway,i figured out why i was having such a hard time launching the car,the BegiRRFPR was making it to rich to soon....i had thought it was the 3.55 rear installed in the summer was causing the bogging....played with the Begi settings and its back to tearing the crap out of that one tire!!it has now dropped the 0-60mph time to 5.9sec....IT REALLY NEEDS A L.S.D.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 10:08:29 PM / 28-Nov-07
Or welded diff lol!  If you get me those pics, I'll throw them up on the net and link them here.  If you've got pics of various angles and the pipe running front/back that would be cool
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:47:59 AM / 29-Nov-07
Quote from: 200sxkitcar
Or welded diff lol!  If you get me those pics, I'll throw them up on the net and link them here.  If you've got pics of various angles and the pipe running front/back that would be cool
..welding up the diffy is an option[low buck is what this thread is all about!!]..the drop in 240sx lsd for the open rear is about $850[aint happening]..i have been reading on adapting the Q45/J30 VLSD rear guts[easy to find/cheap] into our r200 pumpkin...the hard part is making hybrid rear cv axles by morphing the 2 cars cv axles[not really difficult, but its a unknown as to how tight the fit to get the hybrid axle back in place]...anyone interested go to Z31PERFORMANCE.COM..its a sticky in their drivetrain section....i'll send you pix of the project..thx,mike
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 06:11:32 PM / 29-Nov-07
Cool.  I have a Q45 LSD available to me, and the CV axle end thing was a concern.  I will get your pics up and linked, keep looking for some underbody/rear shots
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:44:20 AM / 01-Dec-07
Quote from: 200sxkitcar
Cool.  I have a Q45 LSD available to me, and the CV axle end thing was a concern.  I will get your pics up and linked, keep looking for some underbody/rear shots
i'll send a shot of the engines two exhaust downpipes that are fully heat wrapped, as well as the turbo return cold side pipeing returning from the rear turbo..it'll show how the cold side return "snakes" around the lower steering linkage /tranny/down pipes..thx,mike.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 09:59:57 PM / 03-Dec-07
I have the pics he sent me uploaded to my photobucket thing, clicky (http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/Sterlingps12/)

I will link them here eventually.  I would really like to see a pic of the turbo mounting itself, have you got any of those??  Thanks again!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Xano on 01:11:35 AM / 04-Dec-07
Quote from: 200sxkitcar
I have the pics he sent me uploaded to my photobucket thing, clicky (http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/Sterlingps12/)

I will link them here eventually.  I would really like to see a pic of the turbo mounting itself, have you got any of those??  Thanks again!
sterling, hide my pics =P
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 08:47:21 PM / 04-Dec-07
lol.  I don't know how to.

I will update with more pics he sent.  Its a crazy setup!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:05:36 AM / 07-Dec-07
Sterling...thanks for linking up the pics[let me know if you want more or of something specific]...i agree,its crazy!!!...i finished up a few more changes....replaced another flex-pipe [3 ft] section of the cold side turbo with a aluminum pipe and 45 deg silicone connectors..i want to wrap the blue silicone connectors with black tape or spray flat black,a couple drivers are honking/thumbs up at lights and asking about the turbo in the rear because the bright blue connectors are so visible now....gotta keep it stealth[lol]...i also cut an opening above my IC and mounted a 300zx turbo hood scoop[not stealth but the IC is happier]..i used a sawzall and air nibbler to cut the rectangle opening...rigged up a air damn[thick foam blocks] so the IC is sealed from the engine bay and fed cool air by the hood scoop/core fans....snow and ice in NYC,no new times....i hate this time of year!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Xano on 01:14:25 PM / 07-Dec-07
Quote from: mc
Sterling...thanks for linking up the pics[let me know if you want more or of something specific]...i agree,its crazy!!!...i finished up a few more changes....replaced another flex-pipe [3 ft] section of the cold side turbo with a aluminum pipe and 45 deg silicone connectors..i want to wrap the blue silicone connectors with black tape or spray flat black,a couple drivers are honking/thumbs up at lights and asking about the turbo in the rear because the bright blue connectors are so visible now....gotta keep it stealth[lol]...i also cut an opening above my IC and mounted a 300zx turbo hood scoop[not stealth but the IC is happier]..i used a sawzall and air nibbler to cut the rectangle opening...rigged up a air damn[thick foam blocks] so the IC is sealed from the engine bay and fed cool air by the hood scoop/core fans....snow and ice in NYC,no new times....i hate this time of year!
when I first read this thread, i was thinking the turbo was near the Y pipe.....boy way I wrong.  thats WAY remote mount.  You should just use the turbo for a muffler and cut off whatever is on there now =P
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:23:35 AM / 08-Dec-07
..i had it set up like that initially,  no mufler after the turbo...but it was to annoying after a couple months driving it...attracts alot less attention with the 3" tube muffler.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Xano on 02:35:32 PM / 08-Dec-07
Quote from: mc
..i had it set up like that initially,  no mufler after the turbo...but it was to annoying after a couple months driving it...attracts alot less attention with the 3" tube muffler.
I bet it had a really unique sound to it.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 06:59:21 PM / 08-Dec-07
On the muffler, does it run side-to side like right near the bumper?  I didn't really see it in any of the pics.  LOL@ people noticing the silicon connector, I bet they were like wtf?!?!  It would be real interesting when the weather gets decent again how low your et's are at, thats a pretty decent run for starters...
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:32:39 PM / 09-Dec-07
Quote from: 200sxkitcar
On the muffler, does it run side-to side like right near the bumper?  I didn't really see it in any of the pics.  LOL@ people noticing the silicon connector, I bet they were like wtf?!?!  It would be real interesting when the weather gets decent again how low your et's are at, thats a pretty decent run for starters...
i'll get you a pix of the muffler...but yeah,its mounted parallel to the rear bumper...it fits inbetween the fuel tank and bumper cover...perfect void to mount the tube muffler...its 3" in/out long case from JC Whitney.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 06:30:00 PM / 09-Dec-07
Ah, ok, I figured.  I didn't know if there was enough room there.  Just don't get rear-ended!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: BoostedVG on 03:02:37 PM / 14-Dec-07
Quote from: mc
I spent the past two days tearing down the upper intake,cleaning out the gunk,painting and replacing the injectors with the turbo set...installed the turbo ecu and it fired right up.It pulls so much harder now..Anyway, it is holding a rock steady idle and pulling over 20 on the vacuum guage.i need to adapt a couple more of the 300z turbo parts[idle and fuel ] to finish.
I'm going to try to use 86 300zx turbo ecu also. My question is don't 300zx's have a knock sensor and 200sx's don't? Did you add one, does it work with out it, or am I just missled that they have one in the first place. I'm just wondering cause I've had 3 300z ecu's and I could not get any to work correct. I dont know if they were bad or if I did something wrong. Thanks
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:51:16 AM / 15-Dec-07
Quote from: BoostedVG
I'm going to try to use 86 300zx turbo ecu also. My question is don't 300zx's have a knock sensor and 200sx's don't? Did you add one, does it work with out it, or am I just missled that they have one in the first place. I'm just wondering cause I've had 3 300z ecu's and I could not get any to work correct. I dont know if they were bad or if I did something wrong. Thanks
...i didnt wire in the knock sensor...my 86 turbo ecu never kicks out a trouble code either w/o it being connected....i use the 1986 300zx turbo ecu,matching 300zx low ohm turbo injectors,300zx AFM and stock 200sxSE o2 sensor..23 degrees initial timing ...idles rock steady[20.5" vacuum@ full warm] ... pulls hard up to red line....you shouldnt have a problem.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 01:15:13 PM / 15-Dec-07
The knock sensor doesn't do anything (puts out no voltage signal) unless there is knocking or it goes bad.  When the correct vibration occurs due to detonation/knocking, or the unit goes boink, a voltage is produced which is sent to the ECU.  When the ECU senses any voltage coming from that circuit, it will retard timing, reduce boost, or whatever the system is programmed for.  So if you leave it out or disconnected it won't be a problem, but if you do indeed run into detonation issues, the computer will never know the difference and you might have problems.  If you do decide to use one, usually it just screws into the side of the block and a single wire connects to it.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:22:11 PM / 15-Dec-07
...one other bit of info is that i replaced the 200sxSE idle/fast idle solnoids with the correct 300zx similar turbo unit...it will bolt right into the 200sxSE upper intake location but the harness is differant[not plug n play]...it needs the  similar four wires but differant plugs...i wasnt able to wire it up using the 200sx SE harness but its not a problem....the idle speed is set using the screw on the solinoid and it works to raise and lower the idle...it doesnt need ECU feedback...the fast idle was adapted by running a toggle switch[12volts and a ground to the solinoid] to the dash and using that as a on/off to raise the idle if needed for headlites/excess electrical load[not really needed but nice to have]...i would recheck those turbo ECU'S and disconnect the harness to the idle/fast solinoids...and then turn out the idle screw to steady the idle at 850rpm or so...this is assuming you were using the supporting AFM/injectors/ect.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: BoostedVG on 07:29:52 PM / 15-Dec-07
Cool thats what I wanted to know. The car I got the ecu from is still at the yard so I can still get parts. I just have one more question about the fuel injectors. I'm running venom hp-630 fuel injectors for a 88 200sx that work with a stock 200sx computer would they be low ohm also?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:21:14 AM / 16-Dec-07
Quote from: BoostedVG
Cool thats what I wanted to know. The car I got the ecu from is still at the yard so I can still get parts. I just have one more question about the fuel injectors. I'm running venom hp-630 fuel injectors for a 88 200sx that work with a stock 200sx computer would they be low ohm also?
i believe so...i'll check my old injectors with my tester....how much do those flow?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: BoostedVG on 03:40:38 PM / 16-Dec-07
Quote from: mc
i believe so...i'll check my old injectors with my tester....how much do those flow?
You know I'm not sure. Venom only gave a HP rating that they can support which is 390 hp.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: BoostedVG on 09:31:28 PM / 17-Dec-07
Quote from: mc
...one other bit of info is that i replaced the 200sxSE idle/fast idle solnoids with the correct 300zx similar turbo unit...it will bolt right into the 200sxSE upper intake location but the harness is differant[not plug n play]...it needs the  similar four wires but differant plugs...i wasnt able to wire it up using the 200sx SE harness but its not a problem....the idle speed is set using the screw on the solinoid and it works to raise and lower the idle...it doesnt need ECU feedback...the fast idle was adapted by running a toggle switch[12volts and a ground to the solinoid] to the dash and using that as a on/off to raise the idle if needed for headlites/excess electrical load[not really needed but nice to have]...i would recheck those turbo ECU'S and disconnect the harness to the idle/fast solinoids...and then turn out the idle screw to steady the idle at 850rpm or so...this is assuming you were using the supporting AFM/injectors/ect.
I was wondering why the stock 200sx harness couldn't be adapted to the 300zx solinoid? Do the wires go to a different pin at the ecu plug or something?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:41:56 AM / 18-Dec-07
Quote from: BoostedVG
I was wondering why the stock 200sx harness couldn't be adapted to the 300zx solinoid? Do the wires go to a different pin at the ecu plug or something?
not sure...i tried but couldnt figure it out...if you search on the 300zx sites they show how to swap the wires to get the n/a harness to adapt correctly....it should work on ours as well...give it try.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:10:47 PM / 22-Dec-07
...so after pushing the boost to 15lbs[fun stuff] the old T3 started to get noisey...i just sent away for a complete turbo rebuild kit...80.00 plus a free balance[EBAY seller with perfect feedback]...nice little winter project for when i start vacation in January....the turbo came apart very easy...i decided to paint up the turbo with high heat paint...flat black makes the whole rear mount blend in better....i also slightly ported the turbo downpipe with the dremel tool.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:59:46 PM / 27-Dec-07
..i'm still waiting on the turbo rebuild kit to arrive and decided to use the down time to try and relocate the AFM back up front in the engine bay.. i never liked the long harness that was adapted to get it to work in the rear of car... ...so i switched in a few bends from a 300zx and now the AFM is after the IC and before the T/B...its a little tight so i had to relocate the charcoal canister....the stock harness has enough slack to reach the AFM as well...conversion to blow through complete.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:43:38 PM / 12-Jan-08
update..the rebuild kit wasnt enough to salvage the T3 turbo so the car remains out of commision for the time being...anyone want to sell a decent used 300zx turbo??...since i was able to relocate the AFM back in the engine compartment,there was now more room to mount the Mocal oil pump higher up behind the fuel tank...no more seeing the pump from the rear.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Julie on 01:30:58 PM / 12-Jan-08
i have a t25 off a ca18det if thats of any use to u
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:11:44 PM / 12-Jan-08
Quote from: julie
i have a t25 off a ca18det if thats of any use to u
. might be to small??..i'll have to read up on that one..thanks for the offer.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:48:37 PM / 30-Jan-08
update..the car is still sitting on ramps[i miss driving this car!!]...i'm waiting on a T3 i bought off a member on Z31.COM...anyway,I picked up a cheap wide band 02 kit that is being assembled ..its a J.A.W kit[70.00] which uses a VW wide- band oxygen sensor[50.00]..i plan on removing the cat and installing a cheater pipe where the 02 will be mounted...it will be interesting to get some AFR readings on this set-up as the boost is raised.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: bartc_j on 07:54:26 PM / 30-Jan-08
Quote from: mc
. might be to small??..i'll have to read up on that one..thanks for the offer.

if you had two thatd be plenty:)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 09:21:49 PM / 30-Jan-08
Wouldn't work for this... remote mount is best with a single turbo.

I still think this is the single best option for SE owners.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: bartc_j on 09:25:11 PM / 30-Jan-08
Quote from: Arro
Wouldn't work for this... remote mount is best with a single turbo.

I still think this is the single best option for SE owners.

i know thats not what i meant....i know not the right thread for that
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 09:27:29 PM / 30-Jan-08
*bonks you on the head*



Seriously tho this project has LOTS of potential.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: BoostedVG on 08:48:19 AM / 01-Feb-08
Quote from: mc
update..the car is still sitting on ramps[i miss driving this car!!]...i'm waiting on a T3 i bought off a member on Z31.COM...anyway,I picked up a cheap wide band 02 kit that is being assembled by former member Crowbar...its a J.A.W kit[70.00] which uses a VW wide- band oxygen sensor[50.00]..i plan on removing the cat and installing a cheater pipe where the 02 will be mounted...it will be interesting to get some AFR readings on this set-up as the boost is raised.
I also thought it would be a good idea to get a wideband.. I just got a AEM one which was expensive...$70 for a J.A.W. sounds much better then what I paid.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: JuneBug on 12:31:42 PM / 01-Feb-08
Quote from: mc
...one other bit of info is that i replaced the 200sxSE idle/fast idle solnoids with the correct 300zx similar turbo unit...it will bolt right into the 200sxSE upper intake location but the harness is differant[not plug n play]...it needs the  similar four wires but differant plugs...i wasnt able to wire it up using the 200sx SE harness but its not a problem....the idle speed is set using the screw on the solinoid and it works to raise and lower the idle...it doesnt need ECU feedback...the fast idle was adapted by running a toggle switch[12volts and a ground to the solinoid] to the dash and using that as a on/off to raise the idle if needed for headlites/excess electrical load[not really needed but nice to have]...i would recheck those turbo ECU'S and disconnect the harness to the idle/fast solinoids...and then turn out the idle screw to steady the idle at 850rpm or so...this is assuming you were using the supporting AFM/injectors/ect.

Here's a little more info on that
http://88hybrid.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5139 (http://88hybrid.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5139)

Also you don't need the knock sensor.  It is completely useless because it shuts off at high rpms anyways.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:46:40 PM / 02-Feb-08
..I installed the replacement turbo today ...started it up and it sounds great...one thing i noticed is that with the AFM located before the T/B now makes it rev up instantly with the throttle movement...before[AFM pre-turbo] it was a slight hesitation before it would rev with slight tip-in.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 03:54:00 PM / 02-Feb-08
MC, so far this is the only picture that we have on file:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m288/sonuvaz/IMG_0795.jpg)

Can you provide more pictures? I'd like to see it from a couple different angles, and from a bit more underneath.

New pics, with the new turbo.

If you get me clean enough pictures, I can help you document this in an orderly fashion... a sort of "how-to".

Also, what PSI are you running now?

Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: bartc_j on 10:33:26 PM / 02-Feb-08
nice man cant wait to see hp figures and some vids
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:57:31 AM / 03-Feb-08
Quote from: Arro
MC, so far this is the only picture that we have on file:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m288/sonuvaz/IMG_0795.jpg)

Can you provide more pictures? I'd like to see it from a couple different angles, and from a bit more underneath.

New pics, with the new turbo.

If you get me clean enough pictures, I can help you document this in an orderly fashion... a sort of "how-to".

Also, what PSI are you running now?
...right now it's back to stock low boost, i want to get a feel with the new AFM location before i get it back up to 10-11 psi...i'll PM you about the pix's...thx,mike
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:29:16 PM / 23-Feb-08
...the wide-band kit[JAW] is almost ready for install.. the kit is now being adapted  to use a USB connection so it will work with my laptop...its going to log some nice data from this setup....i'm waiting for a warm day to crawl under the car to remove the cat and take measurements to build a cheater /02pipe.,.....                                                                                                         i had some extra misting nozzles left over from my cheapo water/alky injection so i mounted them in a "t" fitting and installed it inbetween the IC and the small cooling fans...its triggered on with the Hobbs switch [set at low boost] and uses a simple w.w. washer pump...i've been using water with just enough washer fluid to keep from freezing.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 08:07:44 PM / 23-Feb-08
Jason, there are more pics on my photobucket thing.

http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/Sterlingps12/ (http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/Sterlingps12/)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: RB25sx - SLPR on 09:25:12 PM / 23-Feb-08
Not sure if it has already been brought up, but you really do want to be careful with the way your turbo is clocked, so you can optimize drainage. The way you have it setup right now will encourage oil coking and lack of drainage. Ideally you should have the feed line coming in direct from the top and the drain (obviously) directly opposite.

Neat setup though.

-Dan
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:37:08 PM / 23-Feb-08
Quote from: RB25sx - SLPR
Not sure if it has already been brought up, but you really do want to be careful with the way your turbo is clocked, so you can optimize drainage. The way you have it setup right now will encourage oil coking and lack of drainage. Ideally you should have the feed line coming in direct from the top and the drain (obviously) directly opposite.

Neat setup though.

-Dan
thx,..i agree the lines should be repositioned..i always wanted to reclock the lines position but never got around to it...it never smoked so i left it alone...i think having the Mocal pump pulling the oil out might be helping it drain effectively.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:34:20 AM / 08-Mar-08
the car is going for its annual state emmission/safety inspection in the beginning of next month so i've had to hold off on the removing of the cat convertor..my plan is to retard the initial timing 5* less than last year...it should pass even cleaner...once that's out of the way i can start on the cheater pipe/wide band 02.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: demonic s12 on 01:16:47 AM / 18-Mar-08
ill be watching this one for a while, im in the process of rebuilding my vg for boost, to install in my coupe...

i want to stick the turbo closer to the engine, where the cat resides, and maybe use a charge cooler along with methanol to make some good power figures :]

great setup, im pleased with your positive results :]
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 01:43:33 AM / 18-Mar-08
I would be concerned about the depth or height if you will of the bump for the cat where you plan on putting it, not sure if it would be enough, and being farther towards the center of the car more likely to catch something on the ground (speedbumps, etc) than farther at the ends of the car.  I had considered this as well, but I don't think there is quite enough room.  If the Man finds you with this assembly, you might take it in the ass, as well.  Cali is kinda particular about the cat thing.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: demonic s12 on 02:16:36 AM / 18-Mar-08
purely a weekend car, just to cruise and meet

and the occasional exhibition :o

Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 02:24:00 PM / 18-Mar-08
Why do you say that?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: demonic s12 on 04:04:01 PM / 18-Mar-08
Quote from: Arro
Why do you say that?

me?

because thats what it is...lol, i have a daily driver

i want something raw, barely streetable, something to blow that pants off c6 vettes, something not quite reasonable or normal


Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 04:06:55 PM / 18-Mar-08
Well that comes down to $$$$. Bang for the buck, this remote mount does the job. And I'd actually race it that way if it was allowable in certain classes. Certainly more capable than just exhibition or weekend drives. Just sounded to me like you were downgrading it's potential.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: demonic s12 on 04:20:40 PM / 18-Mar-08
Quote from: Arro
Well that comes down to $$$$. Bang for the buck, this remote mount does the job. And I'd actually race it that way if it was allowable in certain classes. Certainly more capable than just exhibition or weekend drives. Just sounded to me like you were downgrading it's potential.

not really, im not dissing the remote mount at all, bang for the buck, it kicks ass

but what if you wanted 500 hp out of a vg? would that be possible? with good response?

dont get me wrong, when im done with my s12, i will drive it as long as i can afford to gas it up, i miss that car so much, and its sat for well over a year now
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 04:43:30 PM / 18-Mar-08
Quote from: caraudiofoolery
but what if you wanted 500 hp out of a vg? would that be possible? with good response?

I think it could, yes... other platforms have done it with V6's and smallblock V8's. Will it perform as well as an engine bay mounted setup? No, but I think the difference would be minimal... an intercooler affects response quite a bit, even with a good flowing core. You don't use an IC on a remote-mount.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:09:33 AM / 19-Mar-08
Quote from: Arro
I think it could, yes... other platforms have done it with V6's and smallblock V8's. Will it perform as well as an engine bay mounted setup? No, but I think the difference would be minimal... an intercooler affects response quite a bit, even with a good flowing core. You don't use an IC on a remote-mount.
  i agree with ARRO...I dont see it being a problem getting close to 500 hp with any front,mid or rear 3.0 set-up..its all in the build recipe, but i doubt very few need 500hp...if I was starting from scratch, i think a mid mount aint worth the risk of shearing it off[its tight down there!!] and you still have to deal with the Mocal/Shurflo oil return pump..a mid mount would only reduce the hot /cold piping about 1/3 to 1/2 its running length ,its better than a rear mount but not enough gained in the riskier location trade off..i'm happy with how my rear mount turned out ,it has easy 250hp..under 6.0 sec 0-60mph ...over 100 in the 1/4..and damn good hwy gas milage[23mpg is my best so far]..it keeps the cat for emmission testing none-sense.its mounted up high enough that its impossible to back it into anything..people who claim its going to bottom out back there have no idea what their talking about...people who claim it cant be driven in the rain are wrong as well..most of the added weight of the set up is in the rear of the car where its needed bad anyway and the rest is spread over the front to rear evenly...the majority of the cold side tubing is lite weight aluminum pipe.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: demonic s12 on 01:33:13 PM / 19-Mar-08
hey i was just asking...lol

Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:02:52 PM / 19-Mar-08
Quote from: caraudiofoolery
hey i was just asking...lol
..nothing wrong with asking,LOL!!.if my engine ever blows, i'd like to go with a 3.3 with the remote set up...GET A slightly larger turbo/injectors/better ECU/fuel pump..500HP EASY...will never happen because this is low budget project!!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: demonic s12 on 02:05:59 PM / 19-Mar-08
Quote from: mc
..nothing wrong with asking,LOL!!.if my engine ever blows, i'd like to go with a 3.3 with the remote set up...GET A slightly larger turbo/injectors/better ECU..500HP EASY.

i forgot, do you need a 3.3 block to do that?

i kinda want something i can rev to the moon, that wouldnt help huh?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:11:23 PM / 19-Mar-08
Quote from: caraudiofoolery
i forgot, do you need a 3.3 block to do that?

i kinda want something i can rev to the moon, that wouldnt help huh?
a 3.3 isnt needed,,check out Z31PERFORMANCE.COM  or vg30.com...lots of great info over there... a few have hit 450hp on the stock 3.0 bottom ends...i'd figure a little more 3.3 displacement can only help.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jsvob03 on 07:55:35 AM / 21-Mar-08
Quote from: caraudiofoolery

i kinda want something i can rev to the moon, that wouldnt help huh?

get a vg20. im sure you could take the redline up a ways, you just lose displacement. lots of it.

MC, still looks like a good project. if you had to put a dollar figure on your entire project, how much ould you say you've spent? (don't count labor, unless someone else did it)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:05:23 AM / 21-Mar-08
Quote from: Jsvob03
get a vg20. im sure you could take the redline up a ways, you just lose displacement. lots of it.

MC, still looks like a good project. if you had to put a dollar figure on your entire project, how much ould you say you've spent? (don't count labor, unless someone else did it)
1000.00 or less at this point...its mostly all EBAY and junkyard and that includes the Begi-RRFPR/IC/electric fans/3.55 rear and the up coming WB O2...alot of that stuff isnt really needed but just sort of evolved with the project.The only paid labor was to get the T3 flange welded on a piece pipe for the hot side[10.00]...i just sold the original 3.90 rear for a 100 so subtract that amount!!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:05:53 AM / 22-Apr-08
Update...i had to bring it in for its annual safety/emission inspection and it passed once again.. initial timing at 20 deg and it was idle-ing steady at 750rpm.
NYC Test results
HC LIMIT .80  CO LIMIT 15.0 NOx LIMIT 2.00
HC RESULT.47  CO RESULT 1.6 NOx RESULT .62
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: frosti108 on 10:31:35 PM / 22-Apr-08
where did you get your 3.55 gears? that must make the highway so nice with low rpms and long gears... did the gear swap make your car a lot more sluggish?

thats awesome
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:42:43 AM / 23-Apr-08
Quote from: frosti108
where did you get your 3.55 gears? that must make the highway so nice with low rpms and long gears... did the gear swap make your car a lot more sluggish?

thats awesome
i picked up the 3.55 rear from a 84-86 300zx turbo for 90.00/shipped...i used the stock 200sx SE cv axles and its a direct bolt=in but a pain in the ass installing ..highway cruising is really nice now with the 3.55 ratio as it keeps the rpms much lower ,, i have gotten some amazing gas milage on long test trips[over 30].. the 3.90 ratio in first gear was annoying for me..i was never able to build up any boost with the 3.90's because the rpms rev so fast but couldnt load up the turbo..the 3.55s allow 5psi in first gear..i might install the 3.31 gear next and hit almost 40mpg[LOL]
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/IMG_1652.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Ju_S12_Turbo on 05:16:22 AM / 24-Apr-08
You might like this diff then http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R200-3-36-D...sspagenameZWDVW (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R200-3-36-Datsun-240z-260z-280z-300zx-non-LSD-Rare_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33731QQihZ005QQitemZ150239501827QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: RB25sx - SLPR on 10:01:23 AM / 25-Apr-08
There is something so brutally mechanical about a differential that gets me all worked up.. If I had the space I would collect them.

also.. Updates? Video?

-Dan
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:05:12 AM / 25-May-08
update...i finally got around to removing the cat and installing the cheater pipe...i used 2.5" pipe connected to the stock "y" pipe..i built it so the cat can be easily reinstalled next year for the state emission test..it sounds aggresive now under throttle and a little rumble at idle[similar to my old 72 Chevelle v8]..it has made the car alot more responsive without the restriction before the turbo...i need to pick up some more header wrap to keep the heat in this replaced section...the JAW kit is about two weeks from completion[its getting final adjustments and added features]...The WB O2 sensor is going to be installed in the T3 turbo stock o2 port in the rear.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: aspera on 08:07:15 AM / 02-Jul-08
Quote from: mc
update...i finally got around to removing the cat and installing the cheater pipe...i used 2.5" pipe connected to the stock "y" pipe..i built it so the cat can be easily reinstalled next year for the state emission test..it sounds aggresive now under throttle and a little rumble at idle[similar to my old 72 Chevelle v8]..it has made the car alot more responsive without the restriction before the turbo...i need to pick up some more header wrap to keep the heat in this replaced section...the JAW kit is about two weeks from completion[its getting final adjustments and added features]...The WB O2 sensor is going to be installed in the T3 turbo stock o2 port in the rear.

Hello mc,
You have a fan out here in the interwebs.  I joined this forum just to post here.  I don't even have a Nissan.  lol

I'm a big fan of the RMTS (remote mount turbo systems) and think most people dismiss them too quickly.  I like to divide the RMTS into bite sized pieces.  As you know there are 4 pipes and 3 boost phases.  Each pipe has its own diameter, length, and volume---and what is optimal for each one is different.  A remote mount turbo has the ability to use a large diameter short exhaust after the turbo.  That's nearly perfect for lowering the pressure after the turbine (and cheap!).  The pressure differential across the turbine can go from (I think) somewhere around 40psi to nearly 0psi if no muffler is used.  The air filter on a remote mounted turbo can be huge, and the pipe work can be large diameter and short.  The charge pipe can get away without using an intercooler in many cases (especially with water/methanol injection).

The 3 phases (as I see it) are 1) non-boosted (N/A) driving, 2) building boost, and 3) boosted after the wastegate opens.  In phase #1 a normal turbo manifold isn't the best option for flow or pulse timing.  Lag doesn't matter at all in phase #1 because WOT isn't required from the engine.  In phase #2, lag can be experienced.  But if you've ever looked as some Front Mount Intercoolers on Subarus---you'll notice that the charge pipe loops all the way around the engine.  A RMTS can actually have straighter pipes with less volume than many FMIC cars.  And those pipes don't wrap around a hot engine.  Even if the volume is larger on a RMTS, it isn't by much.  Those pipes fill quickly.  In phase #3 lag no longer matters.  Most of the usable powerband is in phase #3, so there isn't much to complain about.

Okay, now that I got that off my chest here's what I'd like to suggest:
A CONE.  Yep, a cone.  Specifically, a reverse cone.  Instead of a muffler AFTER the turbo, you could use a reverse cone as a muffler BEFORE the turbo.  That would make the pressure after the turbo drop to atmospheric.  It would also make the entire volume upstream of the turbo act as a large muffler.  

The downside is that I'd ask you to try using larger pipe upstream of the turbo.  Maybe 3" pipe?  That might (or might not) cause more lag.  A gently tapered reverse cone is a natural muffler and also a natural (drumroll) NOZZLE.  A nozzle right before the turbo seems like a good idea to me.  In phase #1 it wouldn't make a difference.  You might even get better gas mileage.  In phase #3 it would surely increase horsepower.  The only question is how much it would affect phase #2 and noise level.  I would think that the tone would be lower and quieter than when you ran mufflerless before.

Also, have you considered moving the air filter to the trunk area?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:34:23 PM / 07-Jul-08
Quote from: aspera
Hello mc,
You have a fan out here in the interwebs.  I joined this forum just to post here.  I don't even have a Nissan.  lol

I'm a big fan of the RMTS (remote mount turbo systems) and think most people dismiss them too quickly.  I like to divide the RMTS into bite sized pieces.  As you know there are 4 pipes and 3 boost phases.  Each pipe has its own diameter, length, and volume---and what is optimal for each one is different.  A remote mount turbo has the ability to use a large diameter short exhaust after the turbo.  That's nearly perfect for lowering the pressure after the turbine (and cheap!).  The pressure differential across the turbine can go from (I think) somewhere around 40psi to nearly 0psi if no muffler is used.  The air filter on a remote mounted turbo can be huge, and the pipe work can be large diameter and short.  The charge pipe can get away without using an intercooler in many cases (especially with water/methanol injection).

The 3 phases (as I see it) are 1) non-boosted (N/A) driving, 2) building boost, and 3) boosted after the wastegate opens.  In phase #1 a normal turbo manifold isn't the best option for flow or pulse timing.  Lag doesn't matter at all in phase #1 because WOT isn't required from the engine.  In phase #2, lag can be experienced.  But if you've ever looked as some Front Mount Intercoolers on Subarus---you'll notice that the charge pipe loops all the way around the engine.  A RMTS can actually have straighter pipes with less volume than many FMIC cars.  And those pipes don't wrap around a hot engine.  Even if the volume is larger on a RMTS, it isn't by much.  Those pipes fill quickly.  In phase #3 lag no longer matters.  Most of the usable powerband is in phase #3, so there isn't much to complain about.

Okay, now that I got that off my chest here's what I'd like to suggest:
A CONE.  Yep, a cone.  Specifically, a reverse cone.  Instead of a muffler AFTER the turbo, you could use a reverse cone as a muffler BEFORE the turbo.  That would make the pressure after the turbo drop to atmospheric.  It would also make the entire volume upstream of the turbo act as a large muffler.  

The downside is that I'd ask you to try using larger pipe upstream of the turbo.  Maybe 3" pipe?  That might (or might not) cause more lag.  A gently tapered reverse cone is a natural muffler and also a natural (drumroll) NOZZLE.  A nozzle right before the turbo seems like a good idea to me.  In phase #1 it wouldn't make a difference.  You might even get better gas mileage.  In phase #3 it would surely increase horsepower.  The only question is how much it would affect phase #2 and noise level.  I would think that the tone would be lower and quieter than when you ran mufflerless before.

Also, have you considered moving the air filter to the trunk area?
..MY SET UP IS stock merge down pipe attached to a 2.5" cat cheater pipe which transitions down to a 2" pipe and into the turbo...the return side is 2" all the way back to the IC and then slightly larger for the TB connection....i've have no idea what a reverse cone looks like..post up a pix of a reverse cone..what would be the diameter of the nozzle opening??
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Ju_S12_Turbo on 10:49:21 PM / 08-Jul-08
Hey if you have extra cash just laying around That diff I was talking about with the 3.36 gears is for sale here. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/pts/741516005.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/pts/741516005.html) . thought it was funny and would post it
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: aspera on 04:48:45 AM / 11-Jul-08
Quote from: mc
..MY SET UP IS stock merge down pipe attached to a 2.5" cat cheater pipe which transitions down to a 2" pipe and into the turbo...the return side is 2" all the way back to the IC and then slightly larger for the TB connection....i've have no idea what a reverse cone looks like..post up a pix of a reverse cone..what would be the diameter of the nozzle opening??

reverse cone=convergent cone=gets gradually smaller towards the turbine like a nozzle

Megs makes divergent cones for hot rods, but you could just turn one around.
http://www.coneeng.com/conical_products.html (http://www.coneeng.com/conical_products.html)

My idea is that the long pipework (volume) from the engine to the turbo could be used as a muffler, and the conventional muffler after the turbo could be removed (thereby decreasing pressure after the turbine).  The exhaust pulses from the engine would bounce back towards the engine off of the convergent cone just like they do in a 2 stroke motorcycle exhaust.  Those return pulses would have several feet in the long pipework to collide with and CANCEL OUT some of the primary pulses coming from the engine.  

There would be a tradeoff of lag (due to the muffler's backpressure after the turbo) and lag (due to the larger volume of the upstream pipes).  BUT, the big-piped mufflerless version should kill on top end flow.    

At the very least a gently tapered cone would be better than a rough transition from a 2.5" down to a 2" pipe.


Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:08:01 AM / 11-Jul-08
Quote from: aspera
reverse cone=convergent cone=gets gradually smaller towards the turbine like a nozzle

Megs makes divergent cones for hot rods, but you could just turn one around.
http://www.coneeng.com/conical_products.html (http://www.coneeng.com/conical_products.html)

My idea is that the long pipework (volume) from the engine to the turbo could be used as a muffler, and the conventional muffler after the turbo could be removed (thereby decreasing pressure after the turbine).  The exhaust pulses from the engine would bounce back towards the engine off of the convergent cone just like they do in a 2 stroke motorcycle exhaust.  Those return pulses would have several feet in the long pipework to collide with and CANCEL OUT some of the primary pulses coming from the engine.  

There would be a tradeoff of lag (due to the muffler's backpressure after the turbo) and lag (due to the larger volume of the upstream pipes).  BUT, the big-piped mufflerless version should kill on top end flow.    

At the very least a gently tapered cone would be better than a rough transition from a 2.5" down to a 2" pipe.
..thanks for the link..i'd probably be interested in a 2.5 to 2" cone  to smooth out the transition..the reducer i used is a abrupt step-down...i'd rather not go to a 3" pre turbo only because it seems it would work against this set up...it will make it laggy...a larger pipe is going to take longer to fill..lose more heat energy through the larger pipes surface area.ect...the 3" straight through post turbo muffler on this set up sounds decent and isnt that restrictive...it removes that turbo whirling sound that existed when it had no muffler.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:49:23 AM / 12-Jul-08
Quote from: Ju_S12_Turbo
Hey if you have extra cash just laying around That diff I was talking about with the 3.36 gears is for sale here. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/pts/741516005.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/pts/741516005.html) . thought it was funny and would post it
LOL... I'D rather get a better turbocharger for that price ...i ran into problems with the Wideband O2 so thats been put on hold for the time being...i once again played around with the cold side pipes layout and was able to tighten it up and eliminate all the flex pipe [three feet of pipe]..it now follows a straight shot to the rear turbo..it follows the drivers side frame rail....it is building boost much faster so that section of flex pipe had some leakage.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seb.racing on 02:55:32 PM / 12-Jul-08
good job
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: frosti108 on 12:29:04 AM / 19-Jul-08
hey im wondering what kind of problems your having with your JAW as im having problems as well... mine seems to just read in the 20s most of the time, and once in a while it will show something realistic under WOT... at 1st i thought i calibrated it wrong since i used a smaller 12 volt battery, so i calibrated it again with a car battery and havent tried it back in the car yet. im thinking the JAW kit is just bullshit
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:58:36 AM / 20-Jul-08
Quote from: frosti108
hey im wondering what kind of problems your having with your JAW as im having problems as well... mine seems to just read in the 20s most of the time, and once in a while it will show something realistic under WOT... at 1st i thought i calibrated it wrong since i used a smaller 12 volt battery, so i calibrated it again with a car battery and havent tried it back in the car yet. im thinking the JAW kit is just bullshit
it was grounded out by mistake and started to smoke...it needs new wires to by-pass the damage...hopefully.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:17:10 PM / 08-Oct-08
update time...i pretty much went through the summer without making any changes to the remote turbo set-up...i did get a chance to finally paint the hood and scoop..Dupli-color sells a pre mixed lacquer paint[quarts] in a bright red that was a decent match to the Nissan hot red..its not exact but its close enough and for 40.00[one qt color and one qt clear] it fit the budget..i wet sanded and polished and its decent for shade tree project....

better update...i finally have the JAW Wide Band functioning as of today...its a great little kit for the money[under 100 with the WB O2]..right now its just reading the AFR data and its 14.3-14.7 at idle...later today, as it gets darker out, i'll get some data under boost[hard to read the display in bright lite]..it should be interesting!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:43:31 AM / 29-Oct-08
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/carpix005.jpg~original)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/carpix016.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:07:17 PM / 29-Oct-08
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/carpix010.jpg~original)Pix shows horizontal IC...AFM...eclectric fan
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: David B on 01:35:19 PM / 29-Oct-08
that is so freakin cool
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:46:40 PM / 29-Oct-08
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/carpix014.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:00:56 PM / 29-Oct-08
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/carpix015.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 03:25:23 PM / 29-Oct-08
Really nice! I love that exit pipe, the way you ran it sideways. Where did you get that O2 housing and that exit pipe from?

Can you take a picture from the *other* side of the turbocharger? And a bit from the front of it where the cold side is?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:22:32 PM / 29-Oct-08
...its all borrowed from the 84-89 300zx..i'll try to get a pix showing the other side.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 07:24:37 PM / 29-Oct-08
What about the tailpipe, where did you get that? Or is it custom?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:40:55 PM / 29-Oct-08
Quote from: Arro
What about the tailpipe, where did you get that? Or is it custom?
...the muffler is from JCWhitney...the curved exhaust pipe is from Summit or Jegs mail order.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 07:44:43 PM / 29-Oct-08
Can you take a video of how it sounds and upload to photobucket or youtube?

Man I really want to do this with an SE someday. I still think yours is the best method for turbocharging a VG in an S12.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:03:32 PM / 29-Oct-08
...front to rear pix...cat removed..hot side pipes fully wrapped...cold side follows the frame rail...the small tubing is the oil feed line for the turbo...plenty of ground clearance.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/003.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:29:49 PM / 29-Oct-08
...(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/071.jpg~original)pix of the cat cheater pipe.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Xano on 08:30:38 PM / 29-Oct-08
i hate you and your sexy vg + t

now, how are you getting the oil to return properly, i wouldve thought it would have some issues, as most oil returns are gravity fed.  are you using an electric pump of some type?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:39:46 PM / 29-Oct-08
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/IMG_0889.jpg~original)...passanger valve cover modified for the oil return...3/8" nipple.

Quote from: Xano
i hate you and your sexy vg + t

now, how are you getting the oil to return properly, i wouldve thought it would have some issues, as most oil returns are gravity fed.  are you using an electric pump of some type?
...dont be a hater!!...you need to build the second rear turbo 200sxSE in the country!!...yes, it requires a pump to return the oil from the turbo...i use a Mocal pump.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Xano on 08:49:47 PM / 29-Oct-08
Quote from: mc
...passanger valve cover modified for the oil return...3/8" nipple.

...dont be a hater!!...you need to build the second rear turbo 200sxSE in the country!!...yes, it requires a pump to return the oil from the turbo...i use a Mocal pump.
i plan on it =D should be sometime in the next 12 months, starting in a week, after i fix a brake problem on the metro, my car will be taken under the knife for 12 months straight, while I do all sorts of things.

hell, i may even get a freaking loan, so i can do it even faster.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:11:35 PM / 29-Oct-08
..this is a older pix...the AFM isnt mounted in the back and the pipes are alittle modified from this pix..but,you can see the Mocal oil pump as well as the air filter location.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/191.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:41:38 PM / 29-Oct-08
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/192.jpg)(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/109.jpg)
Arro...here is a pix of the other side.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:52:04 PM / 29-Oct-08
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/004-1.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 11:53:22 PM / 29-Oct-08
Man that is just sweet MC.

I should do that to my car and see what happens .
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Nitro on 05:13:13 AM / 31-Oct-08
What advantages of such system?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jsvob03 on 06:54:55 AM / 31-Oct-08
Quote from: Nitro
What advantages of such system?

More POWAH! Less heat under the hood.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Nitro on 07:01:05 AM / 31-Oct-08
Why more power? Less heat I agree, but the turbo lag must be awful, no?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 02:00:18 PM / 31-Oct-08
This was originally done by the F-body guys (Camaro, Fiberbird), and those guys had their turbos spolling up pretty quick, because the exhaust is so short and open on the backside. It compensates for the frontside. In other words, this turbo spools up because of the pressure differences in the rear... instead of the incomming exhaust pushing the turbine to spin, the outgoing pressure difference literally PULLS the exhaust through the turbine. Pressure differential, much the way weather fronts work.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: David B on 02:08:36 PM / 31-Oct-08
lol looks like an easy way to get your turbo jacked!  

where do you live. exactly
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 02:56:49 PM / 31-Oct-08
Dude lol removing a turbo isn't easy, the heat tends to tighten everything down and make it a bitch to remove without good tools and some time. Not something that can be snuck off very easilly.

Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:29:24 PM / 31-Oct-08
Quote from: David B
lol looks like an easy way to get your turbo jacked!  

where do you live. exactly
sure, if someone wanted it bad enough they can get it off, just like they are hacking off cat convertors for the rare metals....i make a habit of parking with the ass up against a curb to prevent access....other than that,i dont worry to much....its built for low buck fun.

Quote from: Nitro
Why more power? Less heat I agree, but the turbo lag must be awful, no?
..i dont have anything to compare it against in regard to "lag"...i never had or driven in a turbo car before this conversion...it does under 6 sec to 60mph and over 100 in the quarter...i believe its comparable to the 300zx turbo of similar years...maybe better??
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 09:15:43 PM / 31-Oct-08
Just tell us what RPM sees full boost.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:38:12 AM / 03-Nov-08
Quote from: Arro
Can you take a video of how it sounds and upload to photobucket or youtube?

Man I really want to do this with an SE someday. I still think yours is the best method for turbocharging a VG in an S12.
...a couple videos and early/present build pixs.
http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/d...urrent=2011.flv (http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/?action=view&current=2011.flv)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:17:29 PM / 07-Nov-08
Here is a side by side pix of the Mocal and Tilton oiplpumps
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/IMG_0210.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 04:28:15 PM / 07-Nov-08
Which is the one you ended up sticking with? Did I miss that earlier?

So this runs from the engine? or is it a self-contained system with its own oil reservoir?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:26:44 PM / 07-Nov-08
Quote from: Arro
Which is the one you ended up sticking with? Did I miss that earlier?

So this runs from the engine? or is it a self-contained system with its own oil reservoir?
..i used the Mocal pump..yes,it runs from the engine....the engine supplies the oil to the turbo and the pump is needed to return the oil back to the engine...front turbo set ups have gravity to drain the oil correctly back to the pan but remote mounts need electric pump assist.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 07:53:38 PM / 07-Nov-08
Where on the engine are you tapping for feed and return?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:15:58 PM / 07-Nov-08
Quote from: Arro
Where on the engine are you tapping for feed and return?
..the oil feed is the same port used on the 300zx turbo set up...its located under/behind the alternator...its a banjo fitting with washers....the valve cover was drilled and tapped for a 3/8"nipple hose fitting for the oil return.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/IMG_0889.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Xano on 10:36:10 PM / 07-Nov-08
mc, is that a powdercoat or just a straight up paint?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:37:35 AM / 08-Nov-08
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/IMG_0897-1.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:45:17 PM / 08-Nov-08
..i took it out for a test run the other day to get some data[been a few months]....it has a new 0-60mph of 5.7sec....and was probably going to set a new low 1/4 mile time, but it blew the AFM hose connection...it was pulling strong at 12psi boost.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 08:55:08 PM / 08-Nov-08
Put a little hair spray on the pipe then reassemble the connectors, they'll have a hard time blowing apart after that!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: kris_stewart10 on 09:59:27 PM / 08-Nov-08
well when i built my turbo dsm that info would have been helpful (its a DSM for fucks sake) i blew the coolant return line off and my car ran hot and blew up ( i was doing about 140 at that time)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 01:49:41 AM / 10-Nov-08
Quote from: seishuku
Put a little hair spray on the pipe then reassemble the connectors, they'll have a hard time blowing apart after that!

Holy shit that makes amazing perfect sense dude!


I'm gonna move this thread to the Club-S12 Garage section, it really belongs there now.

Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 03:57:45 PM / 10-Nov-08
Yea, it works awesome in a pinch, especially when you don't have a tubing bead tool (I made one out of a old pair of vise grips). Pretty much glues the coupler to the tube.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:24:48 AM / 24-Nov-08
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-2.jpg)
VC200[late 80s]..accelerometer design ..it calculates HP/tORQUE/SPEED/DISTANCE/time .all through out a 1/4 mile run[or less]..I mounted it in the glove box.

..i need some of that hair spray they use on mohawks!!..the pipes will never budge!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: WankelMonkey on 12:38:29 AM / 25-Nov-08
This is Awsome, glad to see somone doing a remote mount here, I was led on to the stuff that STS was doing a few years back. I was and still am to this day curious to see how well a rotary, as in my FC Turbo, would adopt to a remote mount. Good job and keep it up!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seb.racing on 11:47:44 AM / 25-Nov-08
good job
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jordan on 07:50:25 PM / 25-Nov-08
I just picked up a 87 v-6 with Gopher here in Spokane. This thread has me inspired.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 01:17:34 AM / 26-Nov-08
Jordan I can point you in the right direction for matching those front wheels.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Xano on 01:38:47 AM / 26-Nov-08
Quote from: Xano
mc, is that a powdercoat or just a straight up paint?
this never got answered.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: firefox on 05:58:51 AM / 26-Nov-08
definitely not powdercoated




awesome job dude.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:59:38 PM / 27-Nov-08
..most definitely not powder-coated[LOL]...ACE HARDWARE cheap-o enamel....i pulled the valve cover off to mount the return fitting and hit it with a fast coat.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: s12god on 04:29:40 AM / 04-Dec-08
First i want to say thank you for doing this with your se. i have an SE also. i've been racking my brain trying to think of ways to make good power . arro tried telling me many times to read this post and today i finally sat down and read it all. I'm very impressed.
i still have to finish my vg but i would like to try this.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:27:38 AM / 04-Dec-08
Quote from: s12god
First i want to say thank you for doing this with your se. i have an SE also. i've been racking my brain trying to think of ways to make good power . arro tried telling me many times to read this post and today i finally sat down and read it all. I'm very impressed.
i still have to finish my vg but i would like to try this.

..thanks for the complements[everyone]..i did all the easy n/a power upgrades[300zx AFM/ECU,Stanza t/b and electric fans,2.5" exhaust,CAI, but none of that compares to bolting on a turbo.
...i like my set up and think of it as the nastiest cat back exhaust system on the planet!....and dont worry about the lag,its a built in traction control system!!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 12:22:02 PM / 04-Dec-08
yeah man we need some videos of your car. Yours is quite possibly my favorite SE, and if I ever found a killer deal on an SE (automatic or otherwise) I'd be strongly tempted to buy it and do this the same way you did.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: s12god on 01:33:03 PM / 04-Dec-08
Quote from: Arro
yeah man we need some videos of your car. Yours is quite possibly my favorite SE, and if I ever found a killer deal on an SE (automatic or otherwise) I'd be strongly tempted to buy it and do this the same way you did.


if i ever decide to sell my se i will let you know first arro. it is all black
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:30:36 AM / 17-Dec-08
I picked up a Fluke 51 II DIGITAL THERMOMETER...its going to allow me to take accurate intake temperatures under boost...i'll mount the probe just before the T/B inlet...it should be intersting to see what boost temperatures are with the remote turbo...the Fluke has a peak hold function so it will store info without having to watch the meter.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: 200sxkitcar on 12:45:38 PM / 17-Dec-08
Sweet!  I'm very curious to see this data...
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 12:52:16 PM / 17-Dec-08
Hey man after you take measurement temps at the TB, you should put it after the turbo's compressor outlet, and see how much of a temp drop you get down the length of the pipe.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:04:28 PM / 17-Dec-08
...GREAT TOOL...THE SENSOR HAS A 0.3SEC RESPONSE rate....AND can record 32-1400 deg F...I'll be recording pre and post IC,ON/OFF ALKY injection aswell.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 01:06:45 PM / 17-Dec-08
This will settle the question of do you need an IC for a remote-mount or not.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Wilkie on 03:13:30 PM / 17-Dec-08
Is there any way to make some sort of electric belt-driven turbo spooler for when the exhaust pressure just isn't cutting it?

Could be on some sort of clutch-based system so that it kicks out when the turbo spools past a specific RPM range as to not burn out the motor.

This would probably help with the lag.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:11:08 AM / 18-Dec-08
..here is a pix of the new thermocouple mounted in the elbow that feeds the T/B...the meth/alky spray nozzle is visible to the rear.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-4.jpg~original)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/003-3.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 01:52:52 PM / 18-Dec-08
MC, so is the thermocouple before or after the spray nozzle in the airpath?

I really hope you do take temps from both the beginning and the end of the pipe.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:19:06 PM / 18-Dec-08
..the TC is after the alky nozzle...this way it can record all variations[ALKY on/off...IC fan on/off]....i plan on mounting it in the rear but its going to have to wait till spring,its to cold now to be laying under cars.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 02:25:35 PM / 18-Dec-08
Fair enough... if you can, mount it right *before* the IC, too, so you can see how much temp before/after IC, and how much temp coming out of turbo and before IC.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:25:51 AM / 02-Jan-09
...my latest Ebay steal...its going to replace the small weak windshield washer pump i was using to pump the alky injection.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/021.jpg~original)

...ON/OFF SOLINOID..MCMASTER-CARR
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-15.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:02:58 PM / 06-Jan-09
Quote from: mc
...my latest Ebay steal...its going to replace the small weak windshield washer pump i was using to pump the alky injection.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/021.jpg (http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/021.jpg)
i finally installed the Shurflo pump today, to test it,i placed the misting nozzle in a clear plastic container and activated the switch,it works great...a really steady fine/FOGGY mist is made by this strong pump[100psi]...this pump has seals that handle both alky or meth....i might use the old windshield washer pump as a sprayer for the IC after the winter.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: demonic s12 on 02:01:37 AM / 07-Jan-09
what kind of tires are you running? as well as clutch?

im curious to what kind of performance you could pick up with more rubber
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:07:26 PM / 07-Jan-09
Quote from: caraudiofoolery
what kind of tires are you running? as well as clutch?

im curious to what kind of performance you could pick up with more rubber
215-60-15 all around....its the clutch that came with the car...the prior owner says it was replaced,and it holds pretty decent...i would like to upgrade it.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: demonic s12 on 01:23:01 PM / 07-Jan-09
i see

i just remember when you posted 1/4 mile times, you said your 60 foot time wasnt so good due to traction issues...

do you think its possible to break into 11s with good rubber and less weight? maybe more boost?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:37:28 AM / 09-Jan-09
Quote from: caraudiofoolery
i see

i just remember when you posted 1/4 mile times, you said your 60 foot time wasnt so good due to traction issues...

do you think its possible to break into 11s with good rubber and less weight? maybe more boost?
i dont think i'll get there on my low buck build,but i'm sure it can be done...sticky tires and a LSD unit...upgrade the turbo/clutch...give it a better driver,i suck at launching a stick car!!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:52:57 AM / 13-Jan-09
...its a bosche bov...1" in/out...i'm going to mount it pre-IC.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/boschebov001.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:06:18 PM / 17-Jan-09
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-4.jpg~original)
...spliced in the bov...mounted pre-IC.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: RB25sx - SLPR on 03:03:22 PM / 17-Jan-09
Any particular reason why you ran such a long tube to the BOV away from the charge piping? Why not extend the vacuum line instead?

-Dan
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:16:45 PM / 17-Jan-09
Quote from: RB25sx - SLPR
Any particular reason why you ran such a long tube to the BOV away from the charge piping? Why not extend the vacuum line instead?

-Dan
...i didnt have a longer section of vacuum line in my collection of junk parts...its all temporary.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:30:06 PM / 18-Jan-09
...i took the car for a drive and it really pulls hard ...it likes the alky injection,no sputtering,it just revs under boost...i need to pick up better quality hoses because they are balooning with this Shurflo pump.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 02:33:36 PM / 18-Jan-09
Water injection at those pressures should only be done with proper semi-rigid poly tubing, like what's available from Dayco or Parker.
Also uses the nifty push lock fittings, makes changes real easy.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:59:07 PM / 19-Jan-09
Quote from: seishuku
Water injection at those pressures should only be done with proper semi-rigid poly tubing, like what's available from Dayco or Parker.
Also uses the nifty push lock fittings, makes changes real easy.
..i like those push lock fittings,no need for tools to disassemble....i picked up some fuel injection hose and clamps...its not a problem anymore.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 08:05:11 PM / 19-Jan-09
FI hose works too, nice hose.
It's just too expensive if you're doing a trunk mount pump/tank (like I have), but then again, I use the push lock tubing for vacuum hose too (runs my BOV, wastegate, water injection boost switch, etc).
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:48:12 AM / 26-Jan-09
..i found a problem with the AFM being converted to a push through design in that the cover plate was being pushed out from the boost...i carefully pried out the plastic cover and scraped away the old sealant...i used JB Weld to seal it in place for good.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-5.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: cannan89 on 02:06:55 PM / 26-Jan-09
Wow, I just spent the last two hours reading all of this and all I can say is that's a SWEET setup! Well done, with lots of good ideas!  
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:28:50 PM / 30-Jan-09
..I've been having alot of problems recently with hoses blowing off with the cheaper hose clamps,anything over 10psi wasnt holding anymore.,, these listed in the Mcmaster-Carr catalog...under 5.00 each...rock solid at 12psi again.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-6.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 12:47:37 PM / 30-Jan-09
yeah T-bolt clamps are the only way to go with forced induction.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:42:10 PM / 30-Jan-09
..i was able to tap into the AFM harness to check the output under various rpm...its a 300zx AFM[84-89 version],test was run in neutral/no boost data yet...i believe its a 0-7.12 volt output.
RPM   AFM VOLTS
800   2.53
1500  2.79
2000  2.99
2500  3.09
3000  3.24
4000  3.50
4500  3.60
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:25:27 AM / 04-Feb-09
..i tested the 300zx AFM output under 10-12psi boost and its 5.76-5.85 volt range.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:56:24 PM / 05-Feb-09
Quote from: cannan89
Wow, I just spent the last two hours reading all of this and all I can say is that's a SWEET setup! Well done, with lots of good ideas!  
,,thanks!...i have some other data i'm trying to get the JAW WB to collect,,,i had to buy a new WB O2,the original part failed but was able to replace it with one from Amazon for 47.00...its reading steady again....i hooked up one of the JAW outputs to the AFM and plan to hook the second to a boost output....i still need to figure out the attachment for the RPM display....all in all, a cool WB for the money.

...PIX of wh 02 harness through hatch floor...used a existing cleanout plug.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/003-10.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: s12god on 01:00:28 PM / 05-Feb-09
I'm still considering this. I am gathering part for a turbo set up, I'm just not sure if I want to put it in the bay or go this route. I plan to turbo the vg33. Idk what I should do.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: nismologist on 11:35:01 PM / 07-Feb-09
do it where the battery was.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:33:52 PM / 14-Feb-09
..I made a new cat bypass pipe...2.5" pipe...bolt-in flanges...a bung welded in to relocate the WB O2 sensor closer to the engine..i need to get the car reinspected for state emmision so this will make it a breeze to swap the cat in/out.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-8.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:56:53 PM / 25-Feb-09
...today i wanted to get some idea as to what the exhaust temps were reaching at 10-12psi....i took the K thermocouple and stuck it in the muffler and made a clip to hold in place...this Fluke II has a datalogger which records max/min/average...outside air temps were 42*F....IT recorded a max of 528*F
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:27:59 AM / 28-Mar-09
..i tried out these peel n stick decal temperature recorders...similar results to the other test....they come in various temp ranges....it definitely answers the question that the turbo runs cooler in the rear.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/006-3.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: s12sweden on 12:53:11 PM / 31-Mar-09
mc : hello i have never hear about with V6 in S12 , nice work
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 11:44:49 PM / 31-Mar-09
They were stock in them in 1987 & 1988 only in the US. They only made 5000 each year so they are a bit rare.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 01:07:11 PM / 12-Apr-09
Quote from: nismologist
do it where the battery was.

fail.

we've been over this time and time and time and time again, a single turbo setup would mean a crossover pipe manifold system, which doesn't fit on our cars because of the firewall, the motor mounts, and other crap. That's the whole reason why a remote mount works *best* on our S12 SE's.



Quote from: s12god
I'm still considering this. I am gathering part for a turbo set up, I'm just not sure if I want to put it in the bay or go this route. I plan to turbo the vg33. Idk what I should do.

Just do this. Cheap, and easy. No rediculous welding or major modification required... his setup is so literally bolt-on it's scary.



Quote from: s12sweden
mc : hello i have never hear about with V6 in S12 , nice work

Only in North America  and only non-turbo from the factory. Same engine as in the non-turbo 300ZX, but our chassis is different so the turbo version doesn't fit at all without major major modification.

MC, that's a really good price on the bypass pipe.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:02:08 PM / 12-Apr-09
ARRO...thanks for the continued support with this build...and i agree,i suceeded building a easy and really affordable turbo vg30....anyone can do it ,i pretty much laid it out for others to connect the dots to get that turbo boost...we just need some other vg30 members to step up and give it a go...did i mention this is easy and cheap???..LOL

MC, that's a really good price on the bypass pipe


Thanks..but it might go up because i want to change it to a one piece design...cleaner without the staggered pipes and extra clamps.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:53:18 PM / 14-Apr-09
..i need to get the NYC emmision tested in early May, so its time to remove the cheater pipe.It should pass  again...i will remove the MBC and wastegate helper springs so it stays at stock low boost...the timing will get knocked back to 10 from the 25 its at now....it would of been intersting to test without the cat just to see how close it could get to passing.
..i need to send the turbo out for a rebuild...its boosting fine up to 12psi but its also allowing alot of oil in the cold side piping...i need to reclock the center cartridge to get the drain pointing at 6 but its frozen solid..so off its going to the rebuilder...a fresh rebuild and reclocking should solve the oil problem...if not,i'll look into upgrading the Mocal pump.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:16:43 AM / 17-Apr-09
new one piece 2.5" cheater pipe....
..i'll post up the results if there is any differance in moving the WB O2 from the rear to the cat location.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/009-2.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:42:26 AM / 19-Apr-09
..here isa decent pix of the front to rear pipes on the car..pipes run parallel...i dropped out the cheater to reinstall the cat convertor for emission testing.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/003-12.jpg)
pix of vg30 collector

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-16.jpg)
pix of cat remounted.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/012-1.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:00:48 PM / 19-Apr-09
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/008-4.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/004-7.jpg)
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...nice pix of the solid tranny mount.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/005-6.jpg)
..pix of the Mocal pump/air filter/part of the view of turbo.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/006-5.jpg)
cat reinstalled...it'll be back off soon enough.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/013-2.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 04:28:23 PM / 19-Apr-09
Dude man those nails would scare the hell outta me. You gotta do something about that before you pop a tire.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 04:37:58 PM / 19-Apr-09
Seriously... Those ramps are crazy!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:46:42 PM / 19-Apr-09
Quote from: vg30e_x2_200sx
Dude man those nails would scare the hell outta me. You gotta do something about that before you pop a tire.
ha ha..i had to put those on there for the tires to grab...otherwise the ramps just would be pushed back and it wouldnt ride up the ramp....its a "wiggarigged" ramp, but it lifts the car up to a decent height!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:57:56 AM / 25-Apr-09
...i had the state inspection today and it passed with the cleanest results yet..i had the initial timing at 17 degrees..idle at 750rpm...rock steady idle!
HC LIMIT .80  RESULT  0.19
CO LIMIT 15.0 RESULT  1.9
NOxLIMIT 2.00 RESULT  0.57
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 12:17:00 PM / 25-Apr-09
holy shit that's awesome, tuned well!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:17:01 PM / 25-Apr-09
thanks,i was surprised on how well it tested...its running great....i decided to to reinstall the cheater pipe just to see how fast i could get it in/out...while i was under there i rerouted the WB O2...I snaked the harness up through the shifter hole and under the center console...the plug-in for the JAW kit is right there.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/013-3.jpg~original)


(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/011-3.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:53:34 PM / 07-May-09
So after 4 years use, the Mocal pump took a shit...i was getting alot of oil in the intake and exhaust and the pump itself was becoming a drippy mess..its a draw back having to use a return oil pump but what are going to do??i cant go back to n/a!!..fortunately, a rebuild kit is available for around 50.00 and it'll be here tomorrow.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Xano on 06:56:32 PM / 07-May-09
you should look into higher quality pumps then, if that one started failing in so many ways.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:10:14 AM / 08-May-09
Quote from: Xano
you should look into higher quality pumps then, if that one started failing in so many ways.
yeah,now there are better choices for pumps then when i first started.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:33:35 PM / 09-May-09
i rebuilt the Mocal pump...the kit comes with a Viton gasket/pump heads/screws and not much else?? you dont get much for $50.00!!...i picked up a set of rims/tires from a 96 240sx SE.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/004-10.jpg~original)

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/005-8.jpg~original)

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/009-3.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: NY200sx on 10:18:36 AM / 17-May-09
Nice build dude! happy to see a s12 near me haha gotta meet up one day
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:04:02 PM / 17-May-09
Quote from: NY200sx
Nice build dude! happy to see a s12 near me haha gotta meet up one day
sounds good...i actually was on S.I. last weekend when i picked up the new rims.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: NY200sx on 03:37:17 PM / 17-May-09
oh shit lol ya dude om your # or something... you can help wiht my car! lol j/k my s12 is hurt haha
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Redneck on 05:11:17 PM / 17-May-09
Nice to see you went with the s14 SE rims. I have them on my SE as well  .
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:30:31 PM / 17-May-09
Quote from: Redneck
Nice to see you went with the s14 SE rims. I have them on my SE as well  .
its slightly heavier rim,from my scale...but its worth it!...they came with 205-55-16" tires[decent shape for now]...i'd like to go a little wider, if possible.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:44:28 AM / 18-May-09
...I've had these laying around and plan on getting installed...pretty nice aluminum finned cover with extra capacity,it even has ports for a diff/cooler pump...the delrin bushing is from MM&R[not on the site anymore]..and a SE hanger.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-16.jpg~original)

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/003-16.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:37:20 PM / 25-May-09
i replaced the front and rear pads[ceramic],master cylinder[300zx 1 1/8"], and rear driver e-brake cable and the driver/passanger outter tie-rods...picked up all the parts from Rockauto.com...really good parts/delivery.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-17.jpg~original)

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/004-11.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: demonic s12 on 09:23:05 PM / 25-May-09
nice work man
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 11:23:40 PM / 25-May-09
 Everyone always seems to break those tie rod presses, I don't think I've ever seen one hold together. At least it was only the bolt that broke.

I always just use a pickle fork, it'll probably destroy the joint, but at least it's less likely to self destruct.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:00:46 AM / 26-May-09
yeah,typical Harbor Freight junk...i need to pick up a better bolt to fix it....i ended up having to hit the stud twice by hammer and it came apart...my steering is rock solid now.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:19:23 PM / 09-Jun-09
i ordered some front end suspension parts from Rockauto..KYB front struts,ball joints,control arm bushings,boots,end link kit,ect..its mostly all parts made by MOOG,a little better quality than the lowest price offerings.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:46:39 PM / 12-Jun-09
i took on the front passenger suspension rebuild today...removed the strut with all the brake parts attached...disassembled and found the original strut was fully blown...inserted the KYB inser with some power steering fluid....seperating the ball joint from the steering link was a bitch....i broke my spreading tool[again]and used a tie rod tool from my Chevelle days...had to mod to make it work though....the control arm bushing was the longest/hardest of the day...i have a air impact chisel and had to rip it apart to remove...pressing in the new ball joint on my bench vise was easy because of some large sockets used as drivers/spacers...though pressing in the control arm bushing wasnt easy because the arm would bend inward, i ended up making a wood shim to stuff in the arms channel which allowed the bushing to slide in correctly....one side is done and its amazingly firm compared to the other side.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:58:29 PM / 12-Jun-09
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/003-19.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/005-10.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/007-6.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/009-4.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/010-4.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/011-4.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/013-4.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:16:44 PM / 28-Jun-09
..i picked up some wider rear tires..225-50-16"..i'll keep the 205-55-16 in front for now....i had a chance to measure intake air temps again,i had relocated the misting nozzle to the pre-turbo inlet,,its a small  hollow cone spray pattern nozzle which is aimed straight at the impellor ...115 deg F is the idle air temp with the car fully warmed,after a 10psi run the temp dropped to 93 deg F...ambient air temp were around 75 deg...i am HEET in the yellow bottle,which is meth-alcohol.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 01:31:33 PM / 28-Jun-09
Quote from: mc
..i picked up some wider rear tires..225-50-16"..i'll keep the 205-55-16 in front for now....i had a chance to measure intake air temps again,i had relocated the misting nozzle to the pre-turbo inlet,,its a small hollow cone spray pattern nozzle which is aimed straight at the impellor ...115 deg F is the idle air temp with the car fully warmed,after a 10psi run the temp dropped to 93 deg F...ambient air temp were around 75 deg...i am (using??) HEET in the yellow bottle,which is meth-alcohol.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 06:29:07 PM / 28-Jun-09
I thought HEET was isopropyl alcohol, which will work, but not as well as methanol.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:01:14 PM / 28-Jun-09
Quote from: seishuku
I thought HEET was isopropyl alcohol, which will work, but not as well as methanol.
..its 98% methanol[yellow bottle]...easy to find at Walmart,ect....i believe the red bottle of HEET is mostly isopropyl alcohol.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 08:24:36 PM / 28-Jun-09
Ah yes, that's right... Normally I wouldn't use that, since -20deg washer fluid has the right mix I need.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:48:13 PM / 28-Jun-09
Quote from: seishuku
Ah yes, that's right... Normally I wouldn't use that, since -20deg washer fluid has the right mix I need.
yeah,i use the blue washer fluid if the Heet is sold out.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:05:53 PM / 29-Jun-09
pix of misting nozzle location...m1 nozzle.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/009-5.jpg)
pix of deflector for the K&N air filter(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/011-5.jpg)
.225-50ZR-16 Michelin Pilots...used but decent condition.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/[IMG]http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/011-5.jpg)dmc10132/012-4.jpg[/img]
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/014-3.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 05:06:16 PM / 29-Jun-09
So how many Camaros and Mustangs have you pissed off?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:04:55 PM / 07-Jul-09
it does ok,some better than others...i want to race that 442..I never see those anymore..very nice!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:00:01 AM / 11-Jul-09
..i made this video of a second and third gear pull..8psi
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/th_001-24.jpg) (http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/?action=view&current=001-24.flv)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:44:26 AM / 18-Jul-09
took on the other side strut install yesterday...second time was alot easier because i disassembled the brake parts,,,made it easier to work with on/off the car...car handles really nice.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-17.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/004-16.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/007-7.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/006-10.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/009-6.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 05:54:44 PM / 18-Jul-09
Quote from: mc
it does ok,some better than others...i want to race that 442..I never see those anymore..very nice!


 

LOL! Well unfortunatly you happen to be on the WRONG side of the country for that!!!

Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:28:33 AM / 22-Jul-09
video..M1 Misting nozzle being tested...mounted on the pre-turbo inlet.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/th_002-21.jpg) (http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/?action=view&current=002-21.flv)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: FrankensteinZ31 on 12:29:33 AM / 02-Aug-09
wow...just wow.  It took me like 2 hours to read this and look at the links and I am really considering ditching my z31 project and boost my s12.  I already have so much stuff to boost it with.  The stock turbo injectors and 460cc injectors from an rx7.  3 turbo ecus and 1 that has nistune on it along with a the turbo z31 maf.  lc-1 wideband and gauge.  new 6 puck clutch and 2600lbs pressure plate. and and hx35w holset turbo..but I would run a stock t3 turbo.

looking for a t3 as we speak!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: FrankensteinZ31 on 06:36:55 PM / 02-Aug-09
Could u just have an oil reservoir in the back that the electric pump connects too then you wouldn't have to take oil from the engine all the way back to the turbo?  Would you need 2 pumps?  Or if you had the turbo gravity supplied with oil would you be able to mount the reservoir above the turbo and run a line to it then pump the oil out?  Just trying to get some more ideas
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:45:15 PM / 02-Aug-09
Quote from: FrankensteinZ31
Could u just have an oil reservoir in the back that the electric pump connects too then you wouldn't have to take oil from the engine all the way back to the turbo?  Would you need 2 pumps?  Or if you had the turbo gravity supplied with oil would you be able to mount the reservoir above the turbo and run a line to it then pump the oil out?  Just trying to get some more ideas
Tons of great remote turbo info here..its all LS1 but the same principles apply...read all threads by ZOMBIE!!
http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction-9/ (http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction-9/)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:31:10 PM / 31-Aug-09
i borrowed a friends compression tester and gave it a go...pretty decent results with 170psi more or less across the bunch...threw in a new set of NGK and gapped them @ .035"...the old set looked pretty good[June 2005]...tan-ish color on the porcelin...no detonation damage.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-23.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:02:50 PM / 07-Nov-09
i pulled out the IC for some repairs..here is a pix of the HOBBS switch which activates the meth injection..
 (http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/003-25.jpg~original)                          and another poor attempt at video...enjoy.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/th_002-24.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/?action=view&current=002-24.flv)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:23:46 PM / 21-Nov-09
o-60=6.1 sec...almost 12psi..slightly missed third gear..air temp at T/B 63.7F

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/th_001-18.jpg) (http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/?action=view&current=001-18.flv)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 12:45:18 AM / 22-Nov-09
The last one doesn't work.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:43:29 AM / 22-Nov-09
fixed the link...24 deg timing..meth injection[pre-turbo] is spraying with the orange lite[need to adjust the on-set ]...i need to launch harder..the 225-50-16 dont spin as easy!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:47:19 PM / 23-Nov-09
another weekend of excellent weather iN NY...i was able to do a 0-60=5.7sec...really poor video as the camera didnt pick up the tach/meth light...its just the boost guage and the tires squeeling on the launch...Boost 11.5psi...3500rpm launch....really needs LSD unit.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/th_001-22.jpg) (http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/?action=view&current=001-22.flv)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Grant on 11:37:31 PM / 09-Dec-09
Til I get the parts for a turbo, the only thing I can say is...

THANK YOU C-S12 FOR NO ADS!!!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:42:48 PM / 16-Dec-09
...new best 0-60mph = 5.6sec...the camera shut down so there is no video...VC200 TIMER estimates 255hp...11.5psi boost.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: cannan89 on 06:12:11 PM / 16-Dec-09
Lol, in the vid in post 383 you left your turn signal on the whole time...  
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:03:33 AM / 18-Dec-09
...here is some AFM data using a accurate meter..i tapped into the AFM harness[its the "B" terminal] to monitor the voltage output with my blow through AFM set-up..its pretty close to some data i posted awhile back...AFM seems consistant/repeatable..reving the car in neutral=
IDLE/750RPM...2.55VOLTS
1500RPM.......2.87
2000RPM.......3.02
2500RPM.......3.20
3000RPM.......3.35
3500RPM.......3.44
4000RPM.......3.59
..I took it for a test run and at 10psi its putting out 5.88volts.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:19:36 PM / 15-Jan-10
i picked up a electric fuel pressure guage and a pod...it'll be interesting to see the  fuel pressure under boost.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/005-16.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 09:23:35 PM / 15-Jan-10
Should be 55.6PSI.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: David B on 10:57:18 PM / 15-Jan-10
what pump are you running??
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:20:28 AM / 16-Jan-10
Quote from: David B
what pump are you running??
Stock original SE pump..idles at 30psi..0 vacuum it goes to 38 psi..tried to get data under boost last nite but the exhaust blew a connection feeding the turbo..it'll have to wait.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:31:19 PM / 17-Jan-10
...patched-up the exhaust leak and took it for another test...roads were still damp but was able to take it up to 13psi boost...fuel pressure guage has a cool feature,it records high/low data...it recorded  a high 44psi.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:43:45 PM / 18-Jan-10
i built this wastegate controller from a article in Autospeed...it works amazing,the car boost's so much faster..it keeps the wastegate shut till it hits the set pressure...i purchased all the parts through Mcmaster-Carr.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-26.jpg~original)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-25.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 07:31:05 PM / 18-Jan-10
Not to nit-pick but you need to change out your clutch fluid my friend.

I love your build and you just keep making it better. You need to make it to a track this summer and get some QM times.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:11:56 AM / 19-Jan-10
Quote from: vg30e_x2_200sx
Not to nit-pick but you need to change out your clutch fluid my friend.

I love your build and you just keep making it better. You need to make it to a track this summer and get some QM times.
it looks pretty bad, but its just stained[original part]...fluid was changed when i blew the dampner hose....i wish there was a closer track.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:12:55 PM / 21-Jan-10
i mounted up another thermocouple in the exhaust,its toward the rear of the cheater pipe..i drilled and mounted a fitting for the 1/8" probe.....it recorded 1100F @ 13psi....600F @idle

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-26.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:19:40 PM / 26-Jan-10
New best..i adjusted the new wastegate controller up 14.5psi..fuel pressure hit 46psi..max exhaust temp 993F..AFM hit 6.06v..shifted at 5500rpm.data from VC200 display
0-60mph=5.3sec at 238ft
0-30mph=2.3sec at 48ft
15ft=1.4sec=17mph=.66g
30ft=1.9sec=24mph=.76g
60ft=2.6sec=33mph=.63g
330ft=6.3sec=64mph=.36g
peak G=.824@23MPH
PEAK HP/KP=83@62MPH=262HP(3150 lbs]
225-50-16"
24 degrees timing
93 octane..half tank
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 12:33:31 AM / 27-Jan-10
Man you GOTTA get that thing to a track.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:29:19 AM / 03-Feb-10
i relocated the 2 activation LED's[meth,ect] to the guage pod.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-27.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Driftsilvia86 on 09:13:56 AM / 03-Feb-10
dude, where in NYC are you? car is sweeeeet maybe if i can get my flower pot ever done we could do a s12 meet! lol car is really nice tho man.. GL with everything
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 12:47:12 PM / 03-Feb-10
MC you have the ULTIMATE SE.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:51:51 PM / 03-Feb-10
...ULTIMATE SE?? that is funny!!..thanks guys, i'm glad its appreciated!!..i took a video of the LED in action...LED is from Radioshack..its pretty bright even in daylite.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/th_009-8.jpg) (http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/?action=view&current=009-8.flv)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:34:03 AM / 07-Feb-10
..best tool i've bought in a long time...and its the only reason i've gotten stuff done on the SE lately...runs off the bbq propane tank and puts out enough heat to make garage comfortable.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/007-9.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: brewster240 on 01:04:09 PM / 07-Feb-10
i lovethe updates
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:14:40 AM / 10-Feb-10
i had a tranny cooler laying around so i decided to use it connected to the bypassed T/B coolant lines...i sandwiched it in between the front fan and radiator..it should help.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-28.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:18:55 PM / 21-Feb-10
i relocated the battery to hatch area...i used 2 guage wire and a cheap-o Walmart battery box.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/009-9.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 12:04:50 AM / 22-Feb-10
Did you vent it outside? You really need to in a hatch.
Seal the box with weather strip and run a vent through the floor if you can.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:12:54 PM / 22-Feb-10
Quote from: vg30e_x2_200sx
Did you vent it outside? You really need to in a hatch.
Seal the box with weather strip and run a vent through the floor if you can.
i'll look around for some sort of tubing to attach and vent...you have any pixs of vented cases?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 01:37:46 PM / 22-Feb-10
Here ya go.

http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv6batt.htm (http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv6batt.htm)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:23:43 PM / 22-Feb-10
Quote from: vg30e_x2_200sx
Here ya go.

http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv6batt.htm (http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv6batt.htm)
thx...i thought it would of needed a wider hose...easy enough.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 01:58:19 AM / 23-Feb-10
Nah, not really. It just needs to be able to vent the gasses out of the passenger compartment.
I think the hardest thing you're going to have to deal with is sealing up that cheapo box.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:09:20 PM / 28-Feb-10
Quote from: vg30e_x2_200sx
Nah, not really. It just needs to be able to vent the gasses out of the passenger compartment.
I think the hardest thing you're going to have to deal with is sealing up that cheapo box.
..i found some similar closed cell foam gasket material in the McMaster-Carr site so it can be sealed correctly...also found some seat belt latch's to hold it securely to the floor.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:08:16 AM / 04-Mar-10
..new addition..DevilsOwn 220psi pump replacing a windshield washer pump.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/008-2.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:35:47 PM / 08-Mar-10
..the engine bay is getting tight to mount the pump so i relocated it in the hatch area next to the battery...also mounted the reservoir in the back...works out pretty good as i,m just spraying pre turbo so its really short delivery...it'll stay cooler located in the hatch.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:30:17 AM / 10-Mar-10
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-28.jpg~original)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-29.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Johnny_boi on 12:26:26 PM / 10-Mar-10
nice build. even tho I'm not a big fan of remote turbo set ups, but this one is nice. budget build?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:40:20 PM / 10-Mar-10
Quote from: Johnny_boi
nice build. even tho I'm not a big fan of remote turbo set ups, but this one is nice. budget build?
yeah...its a low $$$$ fun car.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Johnny_boi on 12:44:26 PM / 10-Mar-10
i bet! looks fun. have u got it on a dyno yet?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:35:32 PM / 10-Mar-10
Quote from: Johnny_boi
i bet! looks fun. have u got it on a dyno yet?
nope..i just use the VC200 accelerometer timer to crunch the numbers...i have a new best 0-60mph in 5.2sec,,and .089g=280hp[give or take]...14psi

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/th_003-28.jpg) (http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/?action=view&current=003-28.flv)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:06:56 PM / 27-Mar-10
...new camera mount..i like how it catches the tach/boost/fuel pressure/meth activation/AFR info, which are difficult to monitor during the run...NEW BEST 0-60 mph= 5.1sec...15 psi

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/th_004-24.jpg) (http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/?action=view&current=004-24.flv)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 04:19:20 AM / 28-Mar-10
Ya know I REALLY hate a tease.....
Quote

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Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:33:47 AM / 28-Mar-10
...fixed.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 09:32:32 PM / 28-Mar-10
Ok that's cool man, but I'm sending you my chiropractic bill!!!  
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:03:58 PM / 31-Mar-10
Quote from: vg30e_x2_200sx
Ok that's cool man, but I'm sending you my chiropractic bill!!!  

yeah, its a funky viewing angle!!..i better get a viewer disclaimer posted!!
..it works for my needs..boost builds at 3200rpm...hits 10psi in first gear at 5500rpm..i just need to get a shade over the WB display to catch its data.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:59:39 AM / 05-Apr-10
...50,000 plus views..impressive.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Navy_Mech2 on 12:52:40 PM / 05-Apr-10
That's because you don't keep us waiting months and months for updates! And because your build is badass.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jordan on 04:12:40 PM / 05-Apr-10
Diggin the Soundgarden in the background. Oh, and your car is pretty sweet too.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:02:51 PM / 03-May-10
..good tunes make this car quicker!!..anyway,its annual emission check up time...i set the timing at 15 degrees/700rpm idle and added two gallons of e85 to top off the tank[93 octane]...best results yet..this is one very clean machine!!

HC LIMIT 0.80  HC RESULT 0.17
CO LIMIT 15.0  CO RESULT 1.10
NOxLIMIT 2.00  NOxRESULT 0.14
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:57:41 PM / 07-May-10
i picked up a rebuilt steering rack for 50.00..its the last part with the front steering/suspension that needs to be changed...i 'll reuse the outer tie-rods[less than a year old]and rack delrin mount from MMR..it'll be nice to get rid of the leaky rack and get a pro alignment.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 12:24:30 AM / 08-May-10
Make sure the new rack is the same diameter as the old one. I ran into that issue when I replaced the one in my 88SE. For some stupid reason the passenger side mount on the new rack was a smaller diameter.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:49:11 PM / 08-May-10
Quote from: vg30e_x2_200sx
Make sure the new rack is the same diameter as the old one. I ran into that issue when I replaced the one in my 88SE. For some stupid reason the passenger side mount on the new rack was a smaller diameter.
thx for the tip...i was under the car yesterday looking it over..it doesnt seem to hard of a job...the bolts toward the front seem the hardest to get.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 04:47:23 AM / 10-May-10
The hardest part will be centering up the steering column. Get a friend to help with this as you may need to give it a few tries before you get it right. Just make sure to check the turns lock to lock before you lock it into place. You can do this with no tie rods attached as you are just making sure you are centered lock to lock.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:58:13 PM / 12-May-10
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Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:56:35 PM / 13-May-10
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/007-10.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/006-16.jpg)

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/009-11.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:24:53 AM / 16-May-10
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-32.jpg~original)

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Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:27:44 AM / 20-May-10
..picked up some 87-89 300zx turbo front hubs,calipers,rotors,hoses...nice upgrade...i might paint em before install.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-34.jpg~original)
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Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:09:46 PM / 28-May-10
..took it in for an alignment...much better.

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(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/004-28.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:34:18 AM / 29-May-10

Shop owner Randy car

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-36.jpg)(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-33.jpg)

Shop owner Randy car
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:09:26 AM / 29-May-10
alignment printout.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-34.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 03:50:56 PM / 29-May-10
..new "used" Dunlop 225-50-16 for the rear..they are actually a inch wider than the old tires, which were the same sizing?..car has the same size front and rear now.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/003-32.jpg)

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/005-22.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:08:13 PM / 02-Jul-10
...pix of 300zx turbo front brake upgrade...dual piston caliper/slip on rotor..the rotors are slightly wider but did not interfere with the rain shields/back plates[no trimming needed!]...the calipers must be flipped, meaning the driver caliper goes on the passanger side and vice-versa..the reason being the 300zx mounts the calipers at the front and the 200sx toward the rear..otherwise the bleeder screws would be facing down-ward and thats a no-no!!

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-35.jpg)

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/004-29.jpg)

nice pix comparing the SE brake pad to a 300zx Turbo[87-89]
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/001-38.jpg)

300zx 1 1/8" BMC ...it was just replaced under warranty with Rockauto.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/003-33.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:28:13 PM / 17-Jul-10
i finally got around to building a intake pressure tester ..i thought it was a good idea with my set ups long intake pipe..its pcv pipe cap and a compressor air attachment..pumped up the pressure to 16psi and was surprised by all the leaks!!...the T/B shaft is a major leak point?as well as small old hoses[egr/idle control unit/fpr.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/car/002.jpg~original)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:14:38 PM / 24-Jul-10
..i did another test today..i wanted to measure the back pressure building in the hot side exhaust before the turbo at peak boost[12-14psi]...i mounted a bung and tubing feeding to another map sensor[similar to the one mounted on the cold side]...30psi exhaust back pressure,,,,exhaust temperature peaks at 1100F.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:36:33 PM / 24-Jul-10
..pix of tubing/fitting...1/4" stainless steel leading to engine compartment...exhaust thermocouple is mounted behind.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/007-11.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:54:40 AM / 25-Jul-10
pix of the two map sensors.
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/004-30.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:49:59 AM / 07-Aug-10
...browsing thru Home Depot, i found that Rustoleum now sells a very close match to the factory HOT RED..Its a lacquer called Chinese Red...i used to use Duplicolor because they sold the exact color but they have since stopped making it.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/009-12.jpg)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/010-8.jpg)
..i took on painting the top section of the front bumper.
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(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/017-1.jpg)
..i sprayed it with a adhesion promotor and then the red followed with clear.,not perfect but much better!..lacquer is very forgiving for beginners because it dries fast and mistakes can be wet sanded out.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Kustamogen on 11:32:14 AM / 07-Aug-10
looking at your alignment spec sheet......your rear camber is hardly anything! lol you do anything for that or is that normal for stock ride height?
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:16:22 PM / 07-Aug-10
Quote from: Kustamogen
looking at your alignment spec sheet......your rear camber is hardly anything! lol you do anything for that or is that normal for stock ride height?
its stock[original] except for the KYB shocks.

(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/020-1.jpg)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Kustamogen on 12:17:37 PM / 07-Aug-10
nice work!

wooo and we are almost like hood scoop brothers! I think yours is a lil longer (I hate saying that!)
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 02:29:56 PM / 07-Aug-10
i pulled off the muffler and just went with the turndown..its loud raspy and aggressive!!..i cant leave it this way but i want to get some testing data with it off...and then replace it with a better muffler...the tube muffler is huge and heavy!!
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Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:14:58 PM / 07-Aug-10
Quote from: Kustamogen
nice work!

wooo and we are almost like hood scoop brothers! I think yours is a lil longer (I hate saying that!)
here you go another shot!!
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Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Kustamogen on 04:56:40 PM / 07-Aug-10
lol yours is nicer than mine....flows better with the hood
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 06:52:16 PM / 08-Aug-10
...here is a video of my exhaust note...no cat/muffler...3" pipe after turbo..2.5" tapers down to 2" prior to turbo.
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Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Navy_Mech2 on 07:26:29 PM / 08-Aug-10
sounds killer...you should leave it like that!
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:42:17 PM / 09-Aug-10

i was in the store looking at the Duplicolor rim paint..trying to decide to go with silver or gun metal.
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Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: JumpJet27 on 04:41:56 PM / 10-Aug-10
Quote from: mc
i was in the store looking at the Duplicolor rim paint..trying to decide to go with silver or gun metal.

Gun metal all the way. Just sounds cooler.
Nice video too, turbo sounds cool spooling down.
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Kustamogen on 05:26:29 PM / 10-Aug-10
gunmetal is nice....covers up any imperfections better too.....have used it a bunch before
Title: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Ju_S12_Turbo on 08:18:42 PM / 14-Aug-10
I went with rustoleum, their gun metal is way darker. I have had it on there for a year with no clear coat and lots of dirt road. Paint still shines great.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:59:54 PM / 15-Sep-10
i found the new site,it looks great.....i upgraded to a 90 amp Maxima alternator and sent the T3 for a overhaul..he did a great job..i can finally reclock the in/out oil ports to the correct position.
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i finally have the oil lines postioned correctly.
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Navy_Mech2 on 05:44:17 PM / 15-Sep-10
Yea man it looks like they cleaned it up real nice.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:05:13 AM / 04-Oct-10
Unfortunately the turbo didnt last a day...it stopped making any boost and started to smoke...i dropped it down for inspection, which is a breeze with a remote turbo, and there is major play in the shaft...up and down play....i called him up and he was already pushing the blame on me...old oil...old oil lines...to much back pressure from cat...he says he is sick of working on these turbos and its to much trouble?..i wish he would of told me that while i placed the order...anyway,its on its way back to him,hopefully he does the right thing!!....i reinstalled an old spare turbo and its boosting great..i should of just used this but after reading all the positive feedback at z31performance.com it seemed like a safe bet...
...i will say the Maxima 90 amp alternator is working excellent..its making a solid 14+volts.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: BoostedVG on 11:57:57 AM / 04-Oct-10
Should have had Iggy do it. I'm sure he wouldn't of said he is tired of rebuilding "these" turbos. What ever that means. As far as I know the center section on your turbo is very common and comes apart and goes together just like any other Garrett. I would have told that guy if he is tired... retire. Anyways I hope it all works out for you. I enjoy reading your thread so keep us updated.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:01:32 PM / 04-Oct-10
i had to repair the AFM again...it seems a down side of a blow through set up is the AFM lid keeps popping off under boost...since it was apart, i decided to make a internal connection to monitor its output voltage...inside the AFM are tabs that can be accessed for a clean installation...i drilled a small hole in the lid and fed the wire through...made up a stronger batch of JB WELD epoxy to seal it shut!
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 07:34:59 PM / 04-Oct-10
Should have had Iggy do it. I'm sure he wouldn't of said he is tired of rebuilding "these" turbos. What ever that means. As far as I know the center section on your turbo is very common and comes apart and goes together just like any other Garrett. I would have told that guy if he is tired... retire. Anyways I hope it all works out for you. I enjoy reading your thread so keep us updated.

x's 2 def shoulda went to iggy he would have done a better job and you'd still have the turbo on the car lol.....
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:38:38 AM / 06-Oct-10
Should have had Iggy do it. I'm sure he wouldn't of said he is tired of rebuilding "these" turbos. What ever that means. As far as I know the center section on your turbo is very common and comes apart and goes together just like any other Garrett. I would have told that guy if he is tired... retire. Anyways I hope it all works out for you. I enjoy reading your thread so keep us updated.

20-20 hindsight...i might end up using his services as this spare turbo is getting noisey...it doesnt like 15psi!!!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 09:32:14 AM / 06-Oct-10
Do it!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:57:52 AM / 18-Oct-10
i got the turbo back and installed and its running great again...he went through it again and shipped back at his expense...it cost 265 total,which included rebuild,extracting 5 snapped bolts and shipping to NY...He said it was oil starvation to the bearings....i have increased the feed line from 3/16 to 1/4"...i'll be monitoring it closely.
oil feed at 12:00
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:02:28 AM / 21-Oct-10
so far i'm happy with this turbo...reclocking the oil lines to the 12 and 6 has eliminated oil problems...i can hear the BOV releasing the backup pressure earlier now.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: BoostedVG on 10:19:23 AM / 21-Oct-10
Thats awesome I'm glad it all worked out for you
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:26:11 PM / 29-Oct-10
The Mocal pump started to get leaky again...instead of buying another rebuild kit i decided to try a Shurflo 8000-643-210 unit...its recommended from the LS1.com users who run remote setups... its also a quieter pump.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 04:08:30 PM / 02-Nov-10
i took my Eclipse 1G turbo bov to a exhaust shop and had it mounted on a correct size pipe for my set up...i needed a upgrade over the Saab bov because it wasnt holding the increased boost...1G are known to hold much better.
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Navy_Mech2 on 09:48:32 PM / 02-Nov-10
hows the new scavange pump working out?
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:55:44 AM / 03-Nov-10
hows the new scavange pump working out?
i like it...you cant hear it running/vibrating as loud as the Mocal pump....seems to be working great...no smoke/leaks[keeping fingers crossed].
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 07:41:22 PM / 07-Nov-10
..the Ig bov is installed...T3 is overhauled...new oil return pump....filled the alky injection reservoir with 100% meth and set it at 2psi activation...set the timing at 22...dialed the boost to 15psi....and took it for three 0-60mph runs...best was 5.2 seconds....clutch doesnt want to hold the boost anymore!!...its time to upgrade.

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..i put together a better air inlet for the turbo...eliminated the 300sx multi-bend pipes and replaced with a shorter and straighter pipe...it feels much better...comparison of the old and new.
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:42:58 PM / 19-Nov-10
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/002-44.jpg)..

heat insulating spacer gasket..i will be installing soon...i've been taking some temperature measurements for a before and after comparison.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:03:17 PM / 21-Nov-10
lower intake with the spacer.
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upper intake "lid" gasket and tb gasket.
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:03:06 PM / 27-Nov-10
i started pulling off the upper intake today to prep it for the ACADIANAMOTORSPORTS HEAT SPACER kit...i decided to block off the EGR port, remove the fuel pressure hot solinoid, and bypass the coolant that feeds the passanger side of the upper intake....i have deleted the T/B coolant lines in the past and with these new changes it should make the upper intake much cooler.....while i had the T/B off, i port matched the the intake so it matches perfectly with the 60mm t/b gasket..Dremel tool did it fast!!

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i highlited the part needed to be removed to match the opening to the 60mm t/b.

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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 01:11:50 PM / 29-Nov-10
...I finished up the install yesterday and it works as advertised, There is plenty of clearance to close the hood with the 3/8" spacer on my 88 SE...installation was a breeze as the gaskets were cut and drilled perfectly... Intake [upper] temps went from 150/160F down to 100F[car was fully warmed by driving a half hour]..lower intake temps were 200F......i tested with a IR gun and a Fluke meter..its accurate....go buy a spacer kit!!

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reassembled!!!
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jordan on 01:30:20 PM / 01-Dec-10
Very nice!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:55:10 PM / 01-Dec-10
Very nice!
thanks..i havent been able to see if it helped power wise yet because i'm tracking down some unrelated boost issues....i retested the temp's and it keeps that upper intake cool to the touch...the only change i needed to fit the spacer was to switch back to the 200sxSE  idle controller unit from the 300zx turbo version...the 300zx version sits much higher and wouldnt clear the hood.....in the past the car wouldnt idle good with the SE n/a part but i retried and its now working fine...SMOOTH IDLE/IDLE UP FUNCTIONS/COLD START....I'LL probably rehook up the EGR with the provided adapter kit when the car has to take its annual emission test next year.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:37:14 AM / 26-May-11
i had heard NY dropped the dyno test for emissions testing on all cars before 95,,,took it in with the EGR and CAT removed and its true..its just a safety test[lites/horn/brakes/steering]...its easy sailing from now on[though this car always passed]...anyway,mechanic looked it over and asked about the meth injection and rear turbo set ups and said its good to go!!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 04:51:51 PM / 26-May-11
Still one of my favorite S12 builds :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 10:15:54 AM / 07-Jan-12
i was having problems with the fuel pump wiring grounding out ...Nissan really designed a shitty wire pass through on the fuel tank pump lid ..if the positivewire  grounds, the fuse blows and if the negative grounds it wont shut off....i bypassed the ECU control of the pump and used a relay to feed it 14 volts constant when running...with the battery in the hatch area it was a easy conversion...it pulls noticably better!!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Shark808 on 11:44:13 AM / 07-Jan-12
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Your 1st intake pic is perfect!  Now I know what/where things really are.  Thanks!  Crowded in there.  I'm gonna break something I know it.   
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:44:07 PM / 02-Feb-12
i picked up a used set of air bags and installed one in the rear passanger coil...not a easy installation as these bags are very still material and didnt want to slide in to postion..my hands are killing me!!...15psi  preload in that spring now..it should help with traction.
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...some tips for easier installation....i used  vacuum hand pump to fully collapse the bag...i also had to use my heat gun to get some bag flexibility...lube those coils...pry tools...strong hands....i'm not looking forward to do the drivers side.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: BattleFairy on 03:22:12 AM / 04-Feb-12
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otherwise use anal lube :yay!:
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: d_k_jose_s12 on 01:41:36 PM / 04-Feb-12
Where from ny are you from???? I would like to see this car in person one day
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: vg30e_x2_200sx on 11:14:15 PM / 04-Feb-12
Just look for the red streak and listen for the "WHOOOOOOSH" as he blows by!!!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 09:00:26 AM / 22-Feb-12
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otherwise use anal lube :yay!:
....anal lube on a rear mount ?? why didnt i think of that!!...thanks! LOL
...I relocated the oil pump to a better position today...its closer to the turbo and positioned just below the gravity feed.

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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:57:14 PM / 27-Feb-12
...i wanted to rig better location for the tranny cooler that i'm using for the  water cooled center section on the T3..i had the heat exchanger just laying in the hatch area and it wasnt doing its job as the water was scalding hot[duh!! no air flow].. .anyway, this is what i came up with...i kept the reservoir with pump in the rear hatch.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/Photo02271335.jpg)

Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: seishuku on 06:13:11 PM / 27-Feb-12
Being all the way back there I wouldn't even bother with water cooling, I don't even water cool my T25...
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:56:52 PM / 27-Feb-12
...i had these parts laying around and decided it can only help with longevity..it works great...that cooler scrubs off the heat so well the water in the resevoir is only luke warm even after driving the car for an hour with 12psi blasts!!

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another pix..i like it because it cant be seen under there.
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: BattleFairy on 01:54:28 PM / 28-Feb-12
lasts atleast 10miles or one speedbump LOL

but awesome work like usual
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 05:59:30 PM / 28-Feb-12
...the day that happens this thread gets locked!!  LOL
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Jordan on 10:22:37 PM / 29-Feb-12
As far as I'm concerned you killed two birds with one stone (or got two birds stoned at once?) and built a turbo/fuel cooler. Pretty good use of spare parts.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 11:32:53 PM / 29-Feb-12
so how exactly does that work? i see but can't picture the whole set-up in my mind....
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 08:29:20 AM / 01-Mar-12
...i have a 2.5 gallon coolant reservoir located in the driver rear hatch corner, where i mounted a small bilge pump[$12.00] within the reservoir and rubber lines that connect to the turbo center section in/out which connects to the heat exchanger...i was able to remove a floor plug in the hatch area to feed the lines through to make a clean installation....i wired the bilge pump to the factory fuel pump wiring which wasnt being used because i had bypassed it for a relay and full time voltage.[btw,fuel pump works so much better].
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 11:53:36 AM / 11-Mar-12
..i wired in a relay to my Hobbs switch to control the two pumps for the meth injection...i had it set up previously  directly wired through the Hobbs but it couldnt handle the electrical circuit...sometimes yes/no...it works great now ...amazing how the meth drops temperature so fast....i use a M.75 nozzle on the turbo inlet and a M2 just before the throttle body.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: Arro on 01:13:10 PM / 13-Mar-12
I don't always keep up on your thread, but I catch up with it now and then, and I still feel that yours is the coolest boosted VG30E S12 on here :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Remote mount turbo project
Post by: mc on 12:21:34 PM / 15-Mar-12
thanks Jason...plans for the summer'12 is to rebuild the rear suspension[poly bushings] and install a OBX LSD.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 07:18:52 PM / 20-Mar-12
i used this to control my fan but wasnt happy with the push in fin/ probe because it was activating the fan to late...i decided to carefully drill and tap for the sensor which threads into the radiator...works perfect.
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 02:07:55 PM / 28-Mar-12
picked these up from Zack at Acadiana sports cars on a group buy..very nice  part.
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: BoostedVG on 10:19:55 PM / 28-Mar-12
Very good idea on tapping in the sensor. I had similar problems especially when driving hard.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: Arro on 12:20:31 AM / 29-Mar-12
You didn't want to use an inline hose sensor?
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 11:05:19 AM / 29-Mar-12
Arrow, i saw this spot on the upper radiator and its direct with the water feed and has a flat spot for the sensor to seal flush against....the Derale instructions say to keep it as close to that as possible...BoostedVG, I called Derale customer service when it was activating the fan to late and they sent a replacement sensor...same result with the lame probe in the fins, so i tapped the radiator carefully with a cheap Harbor Frieght kit and its spot on at 180 degrees.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: night_s12 on 04:37:06 PM / 29-Mar-12
Man i love this build. Id deffinately doing something like this once i have the money
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 09:23:20 PM / 02-May-12
...i picked up a AEM wideband guage and installed it on the steering column....pretty nice to have one finally...14psi gets 11.6ish afr.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 12:04:54 PM / 08-May-12
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/th_001-49.jpg) (http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/?action=view&current=001-49.mp4)
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: Arro on 06:21:48 PM / 08-May-12
...i picked up a AEM wideband guage and installed it on the steering column....pretty nice to have one finally...14psi gets 11.6ish afr.

That's a tad rich, isn't it?
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 10:22:43 AM / 09-May-12
i thought it would be worse using the BEGI and meth injection?...it pulls really strong..i'll try to get a video of all the guages under boost.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: Arro on 02:17:32 PM / 09-May-12
Yeah I think 14.7 s stoich and safe IMO is 14, maybe 13.5. But now you're talking meth injection, so... ?
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: Slideways87Panda on 09:46:52 PM / 09-Jul-12
it must have taken me 2 hours to read this build thread but was well worth it. that is one hell of a boosted SE you have there
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: Jay on 02:31:20 AM / 10-Jul-12
Yeah I think 14.7 s stoich and safe IMO is 14, maybe 13.5. But now you're talking meth injection, so... ?


No. Boosted car. Safe for him would be between 11 and 12 at WOT.

Sure you could tune closer to stoich for more power, but after 12 you start to get higher EGT's because you're using less fuel to quench the burn.

I'd consider 11.6 a very safe area under WOT and full load..
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 07:18:27 AM / 11-Jul-12
it must have taken me 2 hours to read this build thread but was well worth it. that is one hell of a boosted SE you have there

...Thanks...build your own,its well worth it.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: s12rich on 10:18:34 PM / 09-Oct-12
mike you inspire me
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 08:53:47 PM / 06-May-13
Cancer returned in the passenger rear quarter...a little worse than the last time...cut it out and rebuilt it with some epoxy and bondo...it should hold up this time...(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo36.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo36.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 01:37:29 PM / 22-May-13
...I finally got around to painting these rims..i decided to stick with Duplicolor Silver and clear..turned out better than I would have thought....before and after...
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 02:15:13 AM / 27-May-13
is there of vid of your car running I'm curious to know what it sounds like?
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: s12rich on 11:30:48 AM / 27-May-13
i can tell you first hand the thing is a beast
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 06:05:17 PM / 27-May-13
lol doesn't help me I actually want to hear it
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: Arro on 04:48:37 PM / 28-May-13
yes there are vids I think somewhere in this thread.

MC, you should have a shop tack the wheel weights on the inside. Wheels look pretty! Your car is still my fav SE :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 03:51:52 AM / 30-May-13
I figured but im to lazy to search through the thread its a long read...
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 06:48:33 AM / 30-May-13
yeah, there are decent videos somewhere in here...i'll try and get something new.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 10:03:12 AM / 31-May-13
Sweet
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 08:11:00 AM / 07-Aug-13
stock fuel pump was starting to get sketchy under boost so ordered a Walbro pump...the factory lid wire connections are a weak point as the plastic insulators fail and the wire grounds out causing problems such as running constantly key on or off...I found this upgrade on z31Performance....drill out the factory connection and install these solid clamp down fittings....pretty nice as you can now pass through a heavier guage wire to the pump.
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Post by: Arro on 03:29:51 PM / 07-Aug-13
Very cool... link to the Z31 wire info?
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 04:34:59 PM / 07-Aug-13
nice!
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Post by: mc on 07:09:24 PM / 07-Aug-13
http://z31performance.com/showthread.php?17026-Walbro-Installing-to-avoid-electrical-problems&highlight=FUEL+PUMP+CONNECTIONS
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anyone adapt the factory fuel screen to a Walbro??   I test fitted the Walbro sock filter and it fits into the tank but I sort of think the stock is a better design..it seems it would be to much trouble as the Walbro is a narrower pump.
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: Arro on 01:30:54 PM / 08-Aug-13
Nobody has problems with the stock Walbro sock... I'd just run that.
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Post by: mc on 04:43:09 PM / 08-Aug-13
KK...keep the sock on!...pump ready to be mounted once the epoxy dries.
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Post by: s12rich on 04:29:08 PM / 09-Aug-13
nice a 235 right?
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Post by: mc on 06:45:47 PM / 09-Aug-13
nice a 235 right?
Yeah Rich...this one...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Walbro-GSS341-400-766-Kit-255lph-HP-240SX-S13-Fuel-Pump-Guaranteed-Genuine-/360440281906?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53ebea3b32&vxp=mtr
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...well the car broke down on its first test drive....hit boost and holy crap this pump jacks up the pressure on my guage...factory pump was maxed at 49 psi at 15-16 boost ... this Walbro was over 70psi and rising till the fuses blew and car rolled to a stop....it seems a 10amp fuse inline with the relay is too small.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 01:28:40 PM / 14-Dec-13
Update....I figured out my Walbro issues by installing a proper sized 20 amp fuse....pump works great and I don't find it too loud as others have posted, but than again my exhaust and rear oil pump cover a lot of noise!!...I removed the SVO intercooler and just use a curved pipe now to feed the AFM...there was really no need to use the IC as the meth injection works excellent...a lot less under hood clutter makes tinkering easier.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 04:07:37 PM / 18-Dec-13
..new tires arrived.
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 04:31:56 PM / 16-Jan-14
lol doesn't help me I actually want to hear it
...here you go!!!
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: s12rich on 05:06:26 PM / 16-Jan-14
music to my ears  :cry2:
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Post by: mc on 09:27:50 AM / 17-Jan-14
LOL...my wife came out and screamed what the fukc are you doing???!!  just updating the build thread.
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Post by: XortioN on 11:16:01 AM / 17-Jan-14
haha! Nice sound and thx for the tip on that walbro. Gonna have to be doing the same in a few months :) :yay!:
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Post by: mc on 09:51:27 AM / 19-Jan-14
haha! Nice sound and thx for the tip on that walbro. Gonna have to be doing the same in a few months :) :yay!:
...definitely upgrade the wire connections to the pump...cheap upgrade.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 02:41:36 PM / 22-Mar-14
60 degrees in NY means it time for Spring cleaning or center driveshaft bushing repair....not to bad of a repair,
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you'll need this cheap Harbor Freight bushing puller to pull the flange off and then again to pull the bushing off...very easy.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo141.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo141.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 10:28:21 PM / 22-Mar-14
Nice work!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 08:37:11 AM / 23-Mar-14
thanks...still waiting on the replacement part to be delivered[I tried a new mail order place called Autohause, very good prices/free shipping]...I went on to remove the rear cross member to replace its  2 bushings with a poly  kit from Arcadian...I struggled getting the cross member out as the rear turbo pipes were in the way...the rear control arms were tight disengaging from the cross member..i definitely could of used some help getting it out but managed..i'm dreading on the reinstall!! LOL...I am sore all over today!!  I have poly bushings for the rear control arms but my stock stuff still looks great, not sure its worth the hassle burning out the bushings to reinstall the poly..these kits should of come with new metal center tubes so you don't have the hassle of reusing the old metal....I have rear wheel bearings to install as wel,l so I have to unbolt the control arms either way.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo145.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo145.jpg.html)

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...as others have posted, I used a air cutting disk , sawzall and a sharp small chisel, to very carefully cut through the metal outer bushing shel without damaging the c member..just cut it enough to weaken and the chisel does the rest...its pretty easy.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: s12rich on 05:16:34 PM / 24-Mar-14
nice work ... I didn't have any issues pulling the old bushings out ...I also had the new polys milled down more to try to get some of that rear camber out
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 07:24:53 PM / 24-Mar-14
thanks...today I used just about every Harbor Freight tool I own on the rear  pass control arm!!...impact gun to blast off the axle stub nut...3 jar puller to pop off the stub flange...20 ton press to extract stub axle....tomorrow i'll press in the new wheel bearings and paint it.
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pressed off/on the outer rear wheel bearing today...getting it off was extra work because I had to press the wheel studs off so I could get the wrap around clamp to press the bearing out....I'm still rigging up a device to pressin  the inner bearing...I removed it by hammer and socket.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo148.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo148.jpg.html)
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Post by: mc on 01:18:28 PM / 26-Mar-14
...I started the removal process of the rear control arm bushings...its drill rubber,heat with Mapp gas and grab the inner metal bushing and it twists out with vise grips....then back to Mapp gas and burn out the old rubber while scrubbing out with wire brush....this sucks LOL.....one of four is almost done...I need to find a wire brush attachment for my drill to hone it out clean so the poly slides in easy.
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found this in Harbor Freight this afternoon..they have mini wire brushes to fit on a drill chuck....I had to crunch it down some to fit the inner metal sleeve diameter but it works great once you get it going...passenger side bushings are done!!

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Post by: mc on 11:30:25 AM / 28-Mar-14
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 01:56:58 PM / 30-Mar-14
...cross member reinstalled...differential rebolted to it.....poly cross member bushings are so hard its very difficult to get the retaining nuts to thread on.
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Post by: mc on 09:38:02 PM / 31-Mar-14
...remounted the new center carrier bearing.
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...replaced the upper rear brake hoses...of course the line snapped so I had to splice in a new section of tube...I never used a double flair tool before but it came out decent.
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Post by: mc on 01:29:12 PM / 04-Apr-14
...I finished reassembling everything last nite ... excellent overall upgrade.. the rear half of car  feels attached now making it very responsive...I need to track down a rear sqeaking noise in reverse gear..and re=bleed the four brakes again as they still feel vague...and get another alignment.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 08:38:59 AM / 06-Apr-14
I found the FSM and retorqued every connection to spec in the rear suspension...I found the rear half section of driveshaft was making the creaking in reverse...it has some slight play in the sealed u=joint and it doesn't look like a serviceable part so i'll be pricing a shaft replacement...I soaked it in some wd40 and its quiet for now.....rebled the brakes and they felt great but on return test drive became very mushy...rechecked every connection and cant find a leak...I looked at the back of vacuum brake booster and its pretty wet and rusty but master cylinder is almost new....still searching.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 12:16:09 AM / 07-Apr-14
Sounds like the booster may be your issue...
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Post by: mc on 07:39:50 PM / 08-Apr-14
...while checking for brake leaks, I found the front pass side ball joint rocking/rattling around in its bore??  unreal,,,i pulled out the control arm and threw in a spare control arm...very easy job .
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 08:18:45 PM / 12-Apr-14
...I pulled out the brake booster today....I had to remove the drivers valve cover for clearance..which meant i had to remove the t'b and distrib..I decided it was a good time to overhaul the clutch master since I had access now...very simple part to rebuild.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo165.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo165.jpg.html)
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Post by: mc on 08:57:43 PM / 13-Apr-14
...mounted up the booster today and set the depth of the booster piston to the MC using paint ...its set perfect now.

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Post by: mc on 12:33:11 PM / 16-Apr-14
...my brakes are excellent now...very fast to pull down the car speed..never have they been this good!!...and rebuilding the clutch master was a success, clutch pedal  feels great...did a oil change with Rotella T6 5w-40...here is a side by side of stock oil  filter and the monster I usually use...it takes a bit of practice to get the big one in her!!(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo170.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo170.jpg.html)
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Post by: mc on 07:53:40 PM / 22-Apr-14
...swapped in a spare 87 turbo ecu instead of the 86 turbo...seems to respond much better overall.... I also  like that it has 5 separate ECU check modes instead of the two on the 86's....I ebay bought a PRW-2 to try out and see if helps.
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(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo173.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo173.jpg.html)...drained out the trans fluid...the drain plug was seized in it pretty tight....the magnet had some collected wear.
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Post by: mc on 04:36:48 PM / 24-Apr-14
...refill nut wasn't moving so I had to fill through the shifter...remove the snap ring and the shifter lifts right out.

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Post by: seishuku on 04:42:32 PM / 24-Apr-14
That's how I always fill the trans... The side fill is a joke.
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Post by: mc on 04:55:17 PM / 24-Apr-14
yeah, I've drained and refilled this trans three times now and every time through the shifter hole...this time I tried unscrewing  the stock refill plug, as its easier to get at without the cat installed[no more emission test]...it was cemented in there and besides to get fluid in there would be a mess pumping it in and whatnot.

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Post by: mc on 08:27:01 AM / 26-Apr-14
...refill fluids...shifts like it was rebuilt.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo176.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo176.jpg.html)


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Post by: mc on 02:35:42 PM / 12-Oct-14
...my hood was starting to get the lacquer cracks from my repaint a few years ago..i decided to strip it all back to sheet metal...i used liquid paint stripper from Lowes...it worked (http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo5.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo5.jpg.html)excellent, as long as you cover the paste with plastic wrap to slow the dryling.

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Post by: mc on 07:00:50 AM / 25-Oct-14
...two coats of epoxy primer(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo4-1.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo4-1.jpg.html)


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Post by: mc on 05:24:51 AM / 28-Oct-14
...more primer ...and wet sanding.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo7.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo7.jpg.html)

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Post by: mc on 08:43:30 AM / 06-Nov-14
..urathane factory 526 Hot Red(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/REDHOOD.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/REDHOOD.jpg.html)
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Post by: mc on 12:23:10 PM / 15-Nov-14
..i 'finished it up with the urathane clear...it came out pretty good but still needs some wet sanding/polish to get the trash out of paint ..my  $25 rigged booth just worked "ok "   ....i used TCP Global for the paint...Eastwood for the epoxy prim(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/Hoodwithclear.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/Hoodwithclear.jpg.html)er...
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Post by: rednucleus on 03:43:45 PM / 15-Nov-14
What did you apply it with?
And when are you coming over to do my hood!!?
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Post by: mc on 06:02:20 PM / 15-Nov-14
...cheapo hvlp gun with a 1.4 tip for the top coats..larger tip for the poly primer...5 HP Sears compressor.
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Post by: mc on 07:04:05 PM / 18-Nov-14
...its too cold to wet sand the hood, so i've moved on to the spare R200 3.54 rear and the install of a Phantom Grip kit...i got the kit off of Ebay for 50...i marked the  diff caps so everthing goes back as it was originally.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/R200REAR.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/R200REAR.jpg.html)


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...unbolted the ring gear after marking its original positioning(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/R200.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/R200.jpg.html).
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Post by: pakii-afa on 09:47:33 PM / 19-Nov-14
i so wish i had a 3.54, im so tired of doing 3k at 65mph
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Post by: mc on 06:30:29 PM / 20-Nov-14
yeah, i like the 3.54 with my set up.....i had to do some grinding to fit this inside..i used the chop saw as a grinding stone... i still  need to find my feeler guage to check the clearance between the gears and the PG.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/PhantomGrilinstalled.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/PhantomGrilinstalled.jpg.html)
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Post by: mc on 05:16:21 PM / 23-Nov-14
...this is out of sequence, but it shows how to release the pin so the cross shaft can be removed....it was stubborn!(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/R200CROSSSHAFTPIN.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/R200CROSSSHAFTPIN.jpg.html)


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Post by: mc on 06:35:35 PM / 24-Nov-14
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Post by: mc on 03:11:59 PM / 26-Nov-14
...this is finally going to get installed, its been sitting on the shelf for ten years.
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Post by: mc on 03:40:24 PM / 28-Nov-14
...it still needed clearance so i ended up using my belt sander to remove metal from the spider gears....anyhow, before removing the 2 locking tabs and pulling out the 4 pins, i was still able to spin the carrier gears freely without any binding with the PG in place...with the tabs removed and the Phantom spread on its springs, its nice and tight!!...its ready for the ring gear reinstall and hopefully some two tire burnouts.
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Post by: mc on 10:42:49 AM / 02-Dec-14
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Post by: mc on 07:49:16 PM / 07-Dec-14
...banged in  the carrier seals and reinstalled the guts.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/R200PG.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/R200PG.jpg.html)
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Post by: mc on 04:47:47 PM / 11-Dec-14
...press,sawzall,chisel...not  bad at all.
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Post by: mc on 04:55:49 PM / 14-Dec-14
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...pressed it in ....no more play anymore...it should work great with the poly bushings already installed this past summer.
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Post by: dcg0397 on 06:12:37 PM / 17-Dec-14
Hi, new to the forums here but recently bought a 88 se last Thursday and love it but have a bit of a decision. The motor has 180k on it and was thinking of getting a vg33e with 86k miles for 300. I was going to see what yall thought of the idea and I for sure want to boost but just don't know what engine I should go with.
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Post by: mc on 06:43:18 PM / 17-Dec-14
.. when the time comes to replace this 3.o, im going to upgrade to a 3.3 using my same turbo set-up...i love plug n play  mods.
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Post by: mc on 12:28:01 PM / 22-Mar-15
...swapped over to the cool cover...hopefully as the weather keeps improving i can install this upgrade.

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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: s12rich on 04:41:19 PM / 28-Mar-15
 :blink: looking better every time u put your hands on it maybe this year our s12s can meet and go for a cruise
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 07:25:48 AM / 22-Apr-15
This car is up.and running right? You do.so much stuff to it I cant tell lol nice work though for sure!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 08:46:05 AM / 22-Apr-15
yeh, its still running, though the rear brakes are acting up again...the usual dragging nonesense...never had a car where the rear disk brakes are always a PIA...good news is the weather has been excellent so i need to swap the diff out.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 07:34:01 PM / 28-Apr-15
...today i took on repairing a worn u joint..it was the joint closest to the differential.i used a Rockford replacement joint.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/u%20joint%201.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/u%20joint%201.jpg.html)


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Rockford part # 430-12 is what fit my car.. http://rockforddriveline.com/Staked-In_U-Joints.pdf
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 03:23:23 PM / 02-Jun-15
i need to swap the pinion flange so i can bolt up this rear...getting the nut removed and using a bearing/flange remover tool helps.


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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 03:20:43 PM / 04-Jun-15
..picked these bushings up for twenty shipped!!
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: 8SixS12 on 03:49:16 PM / 05-Jun-15
Build is coming along nicely! If you don't mind, I'd like the part numbers for the sway bar bushings.

Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 04:17:22 PM / 05-Jun-15
,,22mm rear sway bar bushing part #14-1112
,,,strut rod bushing part #14-1203
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 12:32:46 PM / 12-Sep-15
...installed the MMR delrin diff bushing, finned rear cover and rear sway bar bushing...the MMR diff bushing helped remove a little camber in the back.
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 02:27:25 PM / 26-Sep-15
Nice work!

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You should post a current pic of how your car sits now I'd really like to see it!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 07:06:44 PM / 26-Sep-15
here you go Sideways....i really should of swapped in the Phantomgrip rear.......i'm slowing down

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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 09:54:22 PM / 26-Sep-15
I meant a pic of the entire car lol stance looms good tho....
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 06:31:14 PM / 28-Sep-15
...i wanted to do a string alignment after watching/reading how to set up the garage floor to level...i used a bubble level and a digital version....my floor is pitched in both directions because its a pretty wide two car garage....i would of never guessed it had so much pitch.
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i initially set up using ceramic tile for the front but switched to vinyl tiles.
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....moved the car back in on the leveled locations....rechecked with car on tiles, as good as its gonna get.(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo%203.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo%203.jpg.html)





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rear driver camber(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo%206.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo%206.jpg.html)



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...rear pass camber(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo%209.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo%209.jpg.html)




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...front driver camber(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/photo%207.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/photo%207.jpg.html)


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...front pass camber
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...locked the steering wheel straight with pole and zip ties
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....i set up lines on jack stands and set line distance from each wheel center hub to account for the difference in front to rear track measurements...the SE cars are 25mm wider in the rear so i halved it and used 12.5mm per side correction
...also adjust line height to pass the center point of front to rear hubs....i measured out from the front 100mm and rear 87.5mm using a Harbor Freight depth caliper...check recheck and re-recheck everything,  once its perfect take depth readings from the front and rear of each rim to line and record....subtract and get toe -in/out measurement.
...my results showed the front left toe- out .58mm so i adjusted to .75 toe-in
...front right showed 1.63 toe-out which was adjusted to .68 toe-in.
...my left rear results showed 1.58mm toe-d in which i readjusted to 1.29mm toe-in
...my right rear results showed 3.00mm toe-in which i readjusted to 1.81mm toe-in
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 05:16:18 PM / 29-Sep-15
Damn bro is there anything you don't do?
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: Cajun1guy on 09:19:11 PM / 29-Sep-15
Yeah, what he said ^^^amazing technique, very clever.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: rednucleus on 09:27:15 PM / 29-Sep-15
I'm coming to your house for my next alignment!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: Cajun1guy on 09:49:29 PM / 29-Sep-15
I've been looking, where DID you find the sway bar and strut rod bushings for twenty shipped!?
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 07:11:38 AM / 30-Sep-15
Damn bro is there anything you don't do?
Sideway... LOL...thanks.
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I've been looking, where DID you find the sway bar and strut rod bushings for twenty shipped!?
Cajun...it  was just lucky good timing
...someone lost interest on a build and let it go really cheap over at Z31Performance....i didnt really need it because i had replaced the bushings with aftermarket rubber...but on disassembly to install the sway poly all that rubber was torn in less than a year...Dorman makes crappy stuff.
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I'm coming to your house for my next alignment!
Red...long road trip, do it yourself...i've done it to both of my cars now, the other is a 91 Camry turbo and both are aligned better than what i have paid someone....handle great and track straight.
...my plan is to slightly raise the rear springs with some rubber booster inserts to help reduce the rear camber closer to zero and hopefully being able to bring the rear toe closer to zero....right now the rear toe is fully maxed out, its in spec by the manual but at the outer range.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 07:51:04 AM / 23-Oct-15
alignment update....i went through the sequence again to fine tune the measurements....this time i leveled the floor spots perfect, i used thick 1.5x12x12 garden pavers and wood shims...i also tried shimming the rear springs to reduce camber[top of fender arch to ground is 28"....much better results.
front driver camber 0*     toe in -.61mm
front pass camber  0*      toe in -.18mm
rear driver camber 0*      toe in -.23mm
rear pass camber .65*     toe in -.18mm
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pix of tiles... saw these at Lowes and figured they are less likely to crack while shimming...very cheap as well. i still use the vinyl tiles on top to allow it to slide/settle the suspension.
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Post by: Cajun1guy on 09:58:35 PM / 23-Oct-15
Gotta hand it to you...precision is your game! I love the creative solutions you have to get the adjustments in there.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 01:13:57 AM / 24-Oct-15
Crazy dude! You know how to get shit done!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 11:36:23 AM / 29-Apr-16
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...started installing the spare 3.54 rear with the Phantom grip unit....i hate dealing with the cv axle remove and reinstall.
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....out with the old, i needed to swap over the driveshaft  flange and finned cover.
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...works great on bench!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: iceageg on 07:14:57 PM / 29-Apr-16
One of the best threads on this forum revived with new content.  Today is a good day for us all.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 10:09:49 AM / 30-Apr-16
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/dmc10132/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1493.jpg~original) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/dmc10132/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1493.jpg.html)

..this tool "walks" the  driveshaft flange right off.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 10:25:04 AM / 01-May-16
...finished up the reinstall....i have found that it's easier to install the  axles into the differential first and than position/bolting the differential into the rear crossmember, much less  wrestling trying to get the axles liNed up....took it out for a drive aND it sounds /feels the same, no funny noises!...it's raining  today in Ny so no proof of 11,s yet.  LOL
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: iceageg on 06:32:03 PM / 01-May-16
Proof or it didn't happen!
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 07:24:37 PM / 01-May-16
Nice work!
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 03:56:01 PM / 13-Nov-16
...i put off repairing this spot for to long and it was a lot worse than expect ed.
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..removed the ground effects.
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...i used Drexel grinder to get the weakest stuff moved out...i used a rust convertor to stabilize what was left...finished that over with fiberglass/resin,ect.
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....sprayed it with a epoxy primer...finished it with urathane color and clear.
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...i resprayed the ground effects kit.
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....reassembled and polished.
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: Redneck on 01:53:10 PM / 29-Nov-16
Looks great. Came out really nice. Love how the s14 5 spokes look on the SE too  :thumbsup:
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Post by: mc on 06:20:11 PM / 02-Dec-16
Looks great. Came out really nice. Love how the s14 5 spokes look on the SE too  :thumbsup:
..thanks, I put a lot of effort for something in the end was covered over by the ground effects kit?  Hopefully the rust stays out there for awhile.
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 07:42:37 AM / 16-Jan-17
...picked up a cheap turbo jacket.
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 12:23:34 AM / 21-May-17
Photo not found boooo lol
Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: mc on 06:03:23 AM / 21-May-17
...working on it
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Title: Re: Remote mount turbo V6 project
Post by: sideways_s12 on 11:08:08 PM / 21-May-17
What are your power numbers?
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Post by: mc on 07:51:50 AM / 23-May-17
...never "dyno'd" her, but g timer puts it in the 260-270 range.
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Post by: sideways_s12 on 08:27:47 PM / 27-May-17
that's it ? with your mods I would of thought it was more... not that those numbers are bad
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Post by: mc on 02:28:40 PM / 03-Nov-17
...fixed the pics through out this thread....hopefully it lasts awhile. LOL