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Offline AkiraS12

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« Reply #40 on: 04:35:50 PM / 02-Jul-06 »
If I go by what you say, then the Chevy Cavalier is a sports car? It's got 5 lugs. That means it's a sports car?  

I had a KA24E turbo'd in my 240 and I'd smoke SR20 powered 240s like it was my job. You can't beat the torque. If the JDM S13 came with a KA24 and we got a GA16 or soemthing, you'd be crying about that too. Be lucky we even GOT the S13/S14 series and live with it, that's what engine swaps are for if you don't like it.

And FYI, the main reason Nissan didn't put a turbo in the S13 was so it didn't steal sales away from the Z.
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« Reply #41 on: 05:53:19 PM / 02-Jul-06 »
Wasn't the SR20 used as a truck engine as well?

Anyways, that's not why I'm posting.  I'm posting cause I want to know where in BC you can get a ca18det front clip for $1200 cause I'm completely and totally down for that my friend.
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« Reply #42 on: 10:48:14 PM / 02-Jul-06 »
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If I go by what you say, then the Chevy Cavalier is a sports car? It's got 5 lugs. That means it's a sports car?  

I had a KA24E turbo'd in my 240 and I'd smoke SR20 powered 240s like it was my job. You can't beat the torque. If the JDM S13 came with a KA24 and we got a GA16 or soemthing, you'd be crying about that too. Be lucky we even GOT the S13/S14 series and live with it, that's what engine swaps are for if you don't like it.

And FYI, the main reason Nissan didn't put a turbo in the S13 was so it didn't steal sales away from the Z.

I didn't really even know that the cavaliers had 5 lug wheel, but I guess I didn't care, because that car is just plain garbage, but I mean, stranger things have happened. But I mean, my whole argument was that I was hoping the car would be way better then it was. No doubt it could have been better with an engine swap and new coilovers etc, but I have a belief that any car should be the best it can be instead of just being used to fill a hole in the market. It should be something you'd want to drive when it's stock and with upgrades is should be even better, but the car didn't feel good to drive when it was stock and it wasn't even that fast, so I ditched it. I then drove the 200SX which I thought would be much worse, but it just feels better to drive. It was slower (cause it was the CA20E), but it felt more confident in the corners unlike that HiCas garbage and I think it stopped about as well, but the 200 Didn't dive as hard as the 240. Well, I didn't like the 240, so i got rid of it... end of story.

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Wasn't the SR20 used as a truck engine as well?

Anyways, that's not why I'm posting.  I'm posting cause I want to know where in BC you can get a ca18det front clip for $1200 cause I'm completely and totally down for that my friend.

I don't think it was in a truck. I know there was a SR20VET in some SUV thing or something, but the point is most of the engine's variations were used in cars that were well... sportier. Cars like the Infiniti G20, Nissan NX2000 *cough* and that crazy japanese all wheel drive Pulsar.

But anyway, about the CA18, I can't quite get a front clip for that much. The front clip was more like $1600 shipped. The engine, tranny, ECU etc is $1200 USD shipped, but they seems alright. so you could offer them $1200 and they might just take it. I've never ordered from them myself, but a few people I know ordered from them and that's who they recommend. The company is called Osaka Jdm motors, so you can check it out, or give them a call (they have a number on their webpage).

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« Reply #43 on: 12:01:52 PM / 06-Jul-06 »
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Yeah, but the non turbo skylines aren't exactly sporty. They weren't turbocharged, had four doors and most of them sold were automatics. That's kinda what you bought if you wanted a skyline to haul your family around in.
Ok granted, the 240 that I owned might have not had that good a suspension being an old car, seeing that I haven't driven a silvia or a brand new 240, it was probably just a biased comment, but the fact that it very mildly faster then my pulsar (which was two years older) was not very impressive. I can't say that I'm an extreme specialist on the engine, but I'm not completely clueless. The car had pretty much exactly the same engine (the KA24E) as my friends Nissan Truck . The 240 was a 1990 and so was the truck I believe. There isn't much more to like about the fact (or so it seems) that nissan sent us a bottom of the line silvia and then dropped in an engine that was pretty much used for a truck and a small van I believe. Justifing the engine that saying by adding a turbo and upgrading it it will push over 400BHP is kinda useless, seeing that with enough money you could do the same with pretty much any engine you can find. Oh I also forgot to mention, I don't feel lucky having had the KA24E at all, I would have gladly taken the CA18DE. In the end though, I am willing to end this argument right now with no one crying over an engine, but in my personal opinion, the 240 was garbage and the "truck" engine was just Nissan's way of either being lazy about some kinda emmisions problem or giving us the big fuck you.

Hmm 15 posts down and already I pissed someone off. I should really just go do this on the 240SX forums, that would piss everyone off.
Haha, you didn't piss me off dude. Opinions are like onions, some people like em, some people hate em. All I was tryin to tell you was our suspension was the same as the silvias and 180's. I actually agree with you about the ka24e...the differences between the dual cam and single are enough that I like the DE and not the E. The DE is a good starting point for a turbo build as it has a lot of things built into it that mainly turbo nissan engines have...forged rods, piston cooling oil squirters(which the E didn't have)and a much better flowing head design than several engines at that time. It's a thick iron block with a crapload of torque and are known for their reliability. My stock ka s13 got a knod of respect from my best friend who drives a twin turbo z32 (which is faster than any car I've driven @ 467whp). He easily spun my tires in first and when he shifted second.....so I don't think of that as a crappy engine. I've driven a pulsar with the ca18de in it..and I thank the overseeers of car wisdom every day that I got a "truck" motor, instead of a lawn mower engine....lol. (CA guy, that last comment was a joke...)
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« Reply #44 on: 05:36:33 PM / 19-Mar-10 »
i just want to say 100 more pounds in the engine bay isnt going to make a big diff
come on the s12's r heavy ass cars
for a s13 it might make a diff but look at all the s13's with so many swaps and they drift most of them with rb's sr's vq's ls1's and many more

if i where u i would go for a rb more power,bullit proof engines and they sound super sexy










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I didn't really even know that the cavaliers had 5 lug wheel, but I guess I didn't care, because that car is just plain garbage, but I mean, stranger things have happened. But I mean, my whole argument was that I was hoping the car would be way better then it was. No doubt it could have been better with an engine swap and new coilovers etc, but I have a belief that any car should be the best it can be instead of just being used to fill a hole in the market. It should be something you'd want to drive when it's stock and with upgrades is should be even better, but the car didn't feel good to drive when it was stock and it wasn't even that fast, so I ditched it. I then drove the 200SX which I thought would be much worse, but it just feels better to drive. It was slower (cause it was the CA20E), but it felt more confident in the corners unlike that HiCas garbage and I think it stopped about as well, but the 200 Didn't dive as hard as the 240. Well, I didn't like the 240, so i got rid of it... end of story.
I don't think it was in a truck. I know there was a SR20VET in some SUV thing or something, but the point is most of the engine's variations were used in cars that were well... sportier. Cars like the Infiniti G20, Nissan NX2000 *cough* and that crazy japanese all wheel drive Pulsar.

But anyway, about the CA18, I can't quite get a front clip for that much. The front clip was more like $1600 shipped. The engine, tranny, ECU etc is $1200 USD shipped, but they seems alright. so you could offer them $1200 and they might just take it. I've never ordered from them myself, but a few people I know ordered from them and that's who they recommend. The company is called Osaka Jdm motors, so you can check it out, or give them a call (they have a number on their webpage).

(Huh? Why did my post get cut up?)

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« Reply #45 on: 06:08:07 PM / 19-Mar-10 »
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come on the s12's r heavy ass cars. for a s13 it might make a diff.
1. This thread is almost 4 years old.

2. ca18et and ca20e s12's are lighter than ka24de s13's.
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