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Author Topic: How To: S13 Coilovers  (Read 63741 times)

Offline Arro

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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #60 on: 03:02:59 PM / 04-Jun-12 »
No but it answered the other guy's question. Basically everything you listed is what you need, yes... I don't see why you can't use S12-spec sway bar. Aren't you using S12 control arms? I recommend you use the S12 control arms or you will have a lot of extra poke which means a lot of extra camber. Way too much. I never understand why people run S13 arms or worse S14 arms unless they are planning to run fender flares or a custom widebody kit (and who really does that).
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #61 on: 06:04:22 PM / 04-Jun-12 »
Because racecar
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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #62 on: 10:45:42 PM / 04-Jun-12 »
extra poke=more steering angle and camber can be adjusted by this magical adjustable piece of metal called "camber plates"
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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #63 on: 11:15:27 PM / 04-Jun-12 »
Except that even with camber plates, you end up with 3 degrees or more negative. So your car is then ONLY useful for drift, and not practical at all for regular street use. All for a bit extra steering angle. Which could have been done by simply shortening the steering knuckles. Which has been done before so it's proven to work well.

Oh and I might add to things that much negative camber would probably make the car difficult to control in a drift, since the front wheels are your only contact patch. No bueno. Hellaflush stanced status FTL.
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #64 on: 11:23:31 PM / 04-Jun-12 »
If a person is going for a street car without tons of tire wear then use s12 arms.
Of you want something more aggressive for street or track car use s13/ s14 arms or if you are baller than adjustable lca's
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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #65 on: 01:37:12 AM / 05-Jun-12 »
Ok so for drifting it's good for the front, but not for the rear.

Exactly, just in case you missed the zero rear camber in the corolla in my previous post ;)

And not for either front or rear for street driving.

Unless you love buying tires every couple of months.

But I guess streeting an S12 has zero cool value to it :innocent:

In case that is you being sarcastic- What IS cool about driving an 80's Japanese "Sports Car"? :P
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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #66 on: 04:54:02 PM / 05-Jun-12 »
ok so no poke then, makes my job easier :) i last question, i heard you needed s13 balljoint for s13 hub? true or will s12 ball joint work.

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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #67 on: 06:09:07 PM / 05-Jun-12 »
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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #68 on: 11:49:22 PM / 05-Jun-12 »
thanks.next step, coils and install :)

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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #69 on: 12:07:33 AM / 06-Jun-12 »
Except that even with camber plates, you end up with 3 degrees or more negative. So your car is then ONLY useful for drift, and not practical at all for regular street use. All for a bit extra steering angle. Which could have been done by simply shortening the steering knuckles. Which has been done before so it's proven to work well.

Oh and I might add to things that much negative camber would probably make the car difficult to control in a drift, since the front wheels are your only contact patch. No bueno. Hellaflush stanced status FTL.

I run -5.5 up front and its killer when I am drifting  :) , But as for the fact about being at least -3 at full positive is false. At full positive camber I am at +0.5, at full negative I am at, well -5.5 lol. 
« Last Edit: 12:21:23 AM / 06-Jun-12 by Ju_S12_Turbo »

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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #70 on: 12:49:22 PM / 06-Jun-12 »
yea but how much do your wheels stick out at full positive. that poke is what most people try to avoid unless flares are used or its going to the track only

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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #71 on: 04:06:08 PM / 08-Jun-12 »
yea but how much do your wheels stick out at full positive. that poke is what most people try to avoid unless flares are used or its going to the track only

It honestly depends on your wheel choices, if you are running stock wheel your "poke" won't be bad at all, it would just make the wheel sit slightly more flush, not Herra frush. if you wanted a idea what it would look like, grab a 10mm spacers and judge for yourself. Its all personal preference and your driving style. 

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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #72 on: 09:47:57 PM / 08-Jun-12 »
i know its all personal, im going for a flush-ish look, but rather the wheel inside the fender then out. so i think ill stick to the s12 lca, if i need more poke then ill swap it out for the s13 :)

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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #73 on: 07:09:52 PM / 10-Mar-13 »
i havent read all the comments yet so my question is gonna make me look like a complete retard  but will s13 coil-overs fit the s12 directly without replacing the rest of the suspension? again yes i look like a complete retard asking this but i got confused reading just a few post sorry 
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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #74 on: 07:18:02 PM / 10-Mar-13 »
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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #75 on: 11:19:59 PM / 10-Mar-13 »
lolz.

Answered, like,

EVERYWHERE on this site.
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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[28:04] zastaba: He did the super jumping up and down pain dance

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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #76 on: 11:24:18 PM / 10-Mar-13 »
took a while to read all the posts and i got my answer thanks
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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #77 on: 11:52:41 PM / 10-Mar-13 »
You'd be surprised how much info is on this site. Good info, not just guesses.
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
Quote from: SHOUTBOX
[27:54] zastaba: I had a friend touch the contacts on his distributer once
[28:04] zastaba: He did the super jumping up and down pain dance

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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #78 on: 12:10:10 AM / 11-Mar-13 »
You'd be surprised how much info is on this site. Good info, not just guesses.
true i like this site alot but considering i used to drive more mainstream cars  this site is a big help  with tips and ideas and finding parts for my s12 great place 
 
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Re: How To: S13 Coilovers
« Reply #79 on: 02:11:05 PM / 15-Mar-13 »
ok so i'm finally gonna do the coilover setup. since the guy is banned can you run s13 spindle and hub on stock s12 LCA/BallJoint/Tension Rod/Tie Rod/Swaybar/Brakes? or do you have to get s13 brakes/rotors/lines/etc. I want to know if the factory s12 calipers clear s13 rotors and if the A1 tie rods bolt onto the s13 spindle if you cut the knuckles for angle on stock s12 steering rack.
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