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Offline Candellan

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The Frankeinmotor - Ca20det
« on: 10:12:17 PM / 16-Oct-08 »
The Gazelle MotorSport - BIG BLOCK CA

Motor:
CA20DET: Standard S12 CA20E block + CA18DET head
Internals: All new ACL pistons (not forged), rings, gaskets, bearings & seals. Stock rods shot peened.
Turbo: Lancer EVO III TD05H-16G
ECU: Power FC with Datalogit FC Edit
Boost Control: Apexi AVC-R
Cam Profiles: CA16DE 248deg - 8.5mm
Injectors: Trust 550cc/min
Bore & Stroke: 85.55mm x 88mm

Driveline:
Clutch: Exedy 5 Puck
Differential: H190 (Torsen LSD) 3.9:1
Front Suspension: HSD HR 7kg Coilovers (15 step damper)
Rear Suspension: King Springs & HSD HR Seperated Coilovers (15 step damper)
Front Brakes: R33 GTST 4 pot calipers & EBC Yellow Stuff pads
Rear Brakes: Bluebird TRX S3 with EBC Red Stuff
Front Wheels: Keiichi Tsuchiya 16x8" +35 with Bridgestone RE55S 225/50/16 tyres
Rear Wheels: Enkie Racing 16x8" +32 with Bridgestone RE55S 225/50/16 tyres

The figures that matter:
Current Power (@ wheels): 269hp (200.7kw) @ 6000rpm
Current Torque (@ wheels): 359.5nm (36.66kg/m) @ 4352rpm
Current Boost: 1.034bar (15psi)
Rev Limit: 7000rpm

Latest dyno sheet:


Lap Times:
Lakeside Raceway: 1:01.75
Queensland Raceway sprint track - 1.01.8479

You Tube:
Lakeside footage:
Lakeside 18/6/09 Hungry Corner (Thanks to Super Pa)
Lakeside 18/6/09 Session 2
Lakeside 18/6/09 Session 3
Lakeside 18/6/09 Session 4 (red flagged)
Lakeside 18/6/09 Session 5 (Current PB)
Lakeside 31/5/09 Session 1
Lakeside 31/5/09 Session 2
Lakeside 31/5/09 Session 3
Lakeside 31/5/09 Session 4
Lakeside 31/5/09 Session 4 (red flagged)
Lakeside 31/5/09 Session 5
Lakeside 3/5/09 Session 2
Lakeside 3/5/09 Session 3
Lakeside 3/5/09 Session 4

Queensland Raceway footage:
QR 6/12/08 Session 1
QR 1/11/08 Session 1
QR 1/11/08 Session 3
QR 19/10/08 Session 2
QR 19/10/08 Session 3
QR 6/9/08 Session 3
QR 5/4/08 Session 1
QR 5/4/08 Session 2
QR 26/1/08 Session 1

Early track run with old street tyres from a chase car - QR Sprints - April 2008

Pics of the Gazelle in action at Lakeside:





Pics of the CA20DET thanks to WWW.MARSTA.COM:




Track Pics of the car again thanks to WWW.MARSTA.COM:




« Last Edit: 05:03:14 PM / 14-Jul-09 by Candellan »

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S12 RXG Silvia - "Green Machine" SR20DET

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« Reply #1 on: 04:28:50 AM / 17-Oct-08 »
Engine bay pics? Engine *build* pics?

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« Reply #2 on: 05:47:59 AM / 17-Oct-08 »
I may get some engine bay pics up soon, but I have no build pics.
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« Reply #3 on: 06:40:45 AM / 17-Oct-08 »
hey tell me more about these hilux shocks in the rear

how are they in comparison to other shocks? and are they longer than stock?
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« Reply #4 on: 02:01:55 AM / 18-Oct-08 »
The Hilux rear shocks are lower then stock S12 live axle items and being a 4x4 shock they come in a wide range of prices & adjustability. With my "King Spring" Low rear springs they are just held captive by the shocks.

Tough Dog shocks - 35mm adjustable (I think these are the ones?) - http://www.toughdogdealer.com.au/shocks35mm.htm

King Springs low - KHRL-80 (page 17)- http://www.kingsprings.com/catalogue/kings...r_catalogue.pdf
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« Reply #5 on: 08:41:07 AM / 18-Oct-08 »
If they are shorter than the live axle S12 shocks, then they are probably similar to the Camaro rear shocks. I heard those are perfect for lowered SRA guys and the foxbody shocks being a perfect replacement for stock SRA and good for lowered IRS cars.

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« Reply #6 on: 04:48:00 PM / 27-Oct-08 »
Here's a couple more videos from over a week ago at Lakeside Raceway:

Lakeside - Session 2 - Best time 1:04.21
Lakeside - Session 3 - Best time 1:04.23

I'm heading back to the QR track this weekend with the backing plates off the front rotors and new front EBC Red pads. This track isn't as hard on the brakes as Lakeside though so I expect they won't give me troubles regardless.
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« Reply #7 on: 10:06:45 PM / 29-Oct-08 »
Pics of the CA20DET thanks to WWW.MARSTA.COM:


« Last Edit: 10:20:34 PM / 29-Oct-08 by Candellan »
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« Reply #8 on: 04:56:30 AM / 30-Oct-08 »
Damn!  I love it!

It sure seems taller!
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« Reply #9 on: 03:07:11 AM / 04-Jun-09 »
I've updated the first post with more images & track footage. The latest vids on the Tube:

Lakeside 31/5/09 Session 1
Lakeside 31/5/09 Session 2
Lakeside 31/5/09 Session 3
Lakeside 31/5/09 Session 4
Lakeside 31/5/09 Session 5
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« Reply #10 on: 07:04:36 PM / 04-Jun-09 »
now that's what I call a hybrid lol good shit! guess I'll be shotpeening my rods

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« Reply #11 on: 05:05:26 PM / 14-Jul-09 »
Updated the first post with the latest dyno sheet - 269hp (200.7kw) @ 6000rpm & 359.5nm (36.66kg/m) @ 4352rpm.
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nice candellan!!!! i like the mismatched rocker covers also!!!
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« Reply #13 on: 06:19:42 AM / 25-Jan-10 »
The Big Block has a new stable mate - The Green Machine (formerly Matty Castle's from the March 2009 calendar).

http://s456.photobucket.com/albums/qq285/C...reen%20Machine/

It's going to get the Big Block's current suspension setup & over time the SR20DET will see a good increase in power & torque.

My herd of Gazelles...

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« Reply #14 on: 07:18:51 AM / 25-Jan-10 »
Lucky guy you are I consider Matts old green one of the best looking s12's. Does it still have watanabes on? And something about it can't be street drivable anymore right?

Nvm the question about watanabes I just clicked your linkie. If you ever consider selling the grill on the green one I'm up to it. It would be a shame to ruin it while racing.
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« Reply #15 on: 04:44:49 PM / 26-Jan-10 »
No, Matty kept the RS-8's. I'm not a fan of the personally & they'll never fit over 4 pot brakes. I'll be putting the Keichi Tsuchia/Enkie wheels from the big block on it with the race tyres.

No I'm not selling that grille, it'll end up on the big block. One day I'll finish off the custom front bar I've been working on for the last 8 or so years which will go on the green machine.
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« Reply #16 on: 06:26:32 PM / 26-Jan-10 »
dude, you are my savior..
 
because, instead of getting a swap, i will just do what u did! i think it would cost way less, and be easier.

how much did it all cost? rough estimate?

thanks!
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« Reply #17 on: 09:24:49 AM / 27-Jan-10 »
Hahaha, cost less, that's a good one. Mate the Big Block owes me over AU$20,000 all up (complete build not just the engine). It's anything but cheap which is why I've just bought Mattys car because it was so cheap & will be a lot stronger/more reliable.
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« Reply #18 on: 11:17:02 AM / 27-Jan-10 »
Ha! What an excellent home for Matt's green monster! Good job
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« Reply #19 on: 02:36:44 PM / 27-Jan-10 »
Quote from: Candellan
Hahaha, cost less, that's a good one. Mate the Big Block owes me over AU$20,000 all up (complete build not just the engine). It's anything but cheap which is why I've just bought Mattys car because it was so cheap & will be a lot stronger/more reliable.


true, but i already got a good suspension, brakes and everything else..
i just need to put in new injectors, pistons, rods, bearings, then the turbo & new ecu.

so in my case, would be easier and cheaper than having to buy a engine, harness, ecu, trans.  Also, i dont even have a welder, so that would just add to the cost of swapping.
i will get a welder, but thats a couple months into the future.

but im willing to give putting a turbo in a ca20e a shot.
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