I'm With You David B

[RB25sx - SLPR]

I personally like the VH45 swap idea.  mazxorx.com out of central florida makes a swap kit for the s13 that should also work on the s12 minus the drive shaft as far as their headers i would not know, also if not out yet they are making a plemun with shorter runners so that a big hole would not have to be cut in your hood.  I say go for the VH and if you do, replace all the seals and especially the t-chain guides before u drop in the motor.

S13 mount kits = big no no!

Custom might be slightly more time consuming but you will likely end up with a much better fit overall.

-Dan

[Draconis]

I will have to put in my support with Dan.  S13 mounts will not work unless you modify them yet again and why pay for something and then recreate it.  The S13 and S12 are totally different in that respect.

[SlickS12]

VH is a novelty. I said it before and I'll say it again, it will throw out the balance bigtime, because of the weight AND because the engine will sit farther forward of the wheels

I was pondering about this today when I was at walmart (cars never leave my mind no matter where I am, lol).  I was pushing my cart around and I had a pallet of water plus a couple gallons of milk sitting in the front.  Now imagine all drifting you do with your trusty shopping cart, and I know YOU do, it does great with little to nothing in it right.  Try doing it with that pallet of water and gallons of milk in it (vh45de or any other v8) and its literally impossible.  I almost ran into a doritos display  ... Make sense?  To add speed/cornering, add lightness!  

[EightySix200SX]

I was pondering about this today when I was at walmart (cars never leave my mind no matter where I am, lol).  I was pushing my cart around and I had a pallet of water plus a couple gallons of milk sitting in the front.  Now imagine all drifting you do with your trusty shopping cart, and I know YOU do, it does great with little to nothing in it right.  Try doing it with that pallet of water and gallons of milk in it (vh45de or any other v8) and its literally impossible.  I almost ran into a doritos display  ... Make sense?  To add speed/cornering, add lightness!  

yeas i have to done that lmao i remember when i was with my girl in the store and all the contents of the cart shifted over and i rolled the cart.... there was stuff everywhere.... lol....   but u do have a point. look at these srt-10's and vettes drifting it may take a lil more work but it would be a sweet setup... i mean how much more does a vh45de weight than say an iron vg

[Arro]

A lot more... more than a KA or a VG. Sterling found out, apparently it's even more than an LS1 V8. Chew on that for a bit

[seishuku]

Then again, it is a twin cam V8, LS1 is OHV... Needs larger heads to hold the cams and timing chain goodies.
Allows for more tweaking IMO, than compared to a traditional US V8, but it's still going to need some re-engineering to get the weight taken care of.

[seishuku]

Hey Sterling!

Weight; (non VVT version so no solenoids/actuators), WET, oil and approx half full coolant, with fluid filled engine mounts, exhaust manifolds with cats cut off at collector.

MINUS;
Flexplate, Starter, P/S pump AND bracketry, Alt AND bracketry, A/C pump and bracketry, VVT solenoids/actuators.

Scale was zeroed with lifting chains, Ron Tyler as witness.

[jeffwins24]

ha ha told you it was heavier then a KA24

[David B]

ha ha told you it was heavier then a KA24

duh its 8 cylinders.... the ka has 4..


but the power to wieght ratio is way different

why not add weight to the rear of the car? like 100 pounds to make up for the front,

the power to wieght ratio will still be better then 160 ka, to 270 VH

[200sxkitcar]

I personally would never ADD weight to a car.  I'd rather pick a different engine if the balance would be that far off.

Matt, that weight seems about right,... I've read in the 520-530 range, which makes sense seeing as that motor has no starter, alternator, or power steering pump...

Its a biggn, thats for sure