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« on: 11:40:24 PM / 18-Dec-08 »
I am thinking about going for a KA24 swap. Do I need to fab motor mounts? i looked around on here and cant find it does it bolt right in?

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« Reply #1 on: 01:21:39 AM / 19-Dec-08 »
motor mounts no, just use 240sx ones

trans mount, maybe

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« Reply #2 on: 09:16:56 PM / 19-Dec-08 »
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motor mounts no, just use 240sx ones

trans mount, maybe


k i think I will do that and use the KA bell housing on the trany i have now
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« Reply #3 on: 01:35:37 PM / 20-Dec-08 »
Do you have the C trans? I see you're an 86, so it's up in the air until you tell us. If you have the C trans, then yes you can just swap bellhousings and be done with it. But running the KA trans means you get a closer shift reach  Also, if you DO have the C trans, swapping to the complete KA trans isn't hard, you just have to slot some holes.

It's the earlier S12's with the B trans that have to custom make a trans mount.
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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« Reply #4 on: 01:46:49 PM / 20-Dec-08 »
So, if I have an 86 Mk1 CA20E, I'd have a B-series tranny right?
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« Reply #5 on: 02:14:24 PM / 20-Dec-08 »
Maybe, maybe not.. the 1986 cars are a mid-change, some of them are Mark I, some are Mark II... so some of them will have the B transmission, some will have the C trans.

If you want to know which you have, take off your center console and take a pic of the shifter.
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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« Reply #6 on: 03:34:08 PM / 20-Dec-08 »
Also, there should be a little plate on your firewall with a bunch of numbers on it, one should be the transmission code which will end in either B or C if IIRC.
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« Reply #7 on: 05:15:45 PM / 20-Dec-08 »
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Maybe, maybe not.. the 1986 cars are a mid-change, some of them are Mark I, some are Mark II... so some of them will have the B transmission, some will have the C trans.

If you want to know which you have, take off your center console and take a pic of the shifter.

or just look at the door panel and engine valve cover.

any 86 car after the 4-5th month of production is a MKII any car before is a MK1.5

4/86

any S12 with a silver valve cover is a C tranny.

any S12 with a black valve cover is a B tranny

i think thats right info not sure...  
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« Reply #8 on: 01:57:23 PM / 21-Dec-08 »
yeah my MK1.5 originally came with a B tranny

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« Reply #9 on: 06:11:57 PM / 21-Dec-08 »
if your mk1 with b trans just use the b trans with ka housing. all you need to do is swap the main bearing out. then no hastle at all, no driveshafts, no cutting, no worries.
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« Reply #10 on: 06:04:05 AM / 23-Dec-08 »
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if your mk1 with b trans just use the b trans with ka housing. all you need to do is swap the main bearing out. then no hastle at all, no driveshafts, no cutting, no worries.


my car has a silver top but the door says 2/86? does this mean I have a b trans? and if so what should I do for my ka swap?
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« Reply #11 on: 06:30:19 AM / 23-Dec-08 »
Silver top, usually is a C trans. Makes the swap easier.
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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« Reply #12 on: 02:26:11 PM / 23-Dec-08 »
so should I use the ka bellhousing on the c trans? or just use the ka tranny? Which is easier/ more beneficial?
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« Reply #13 on: 02:49:54 PM / 23-Dec-08 »
It would be easier to use the KA bellhousing on the C trans, but the advantage of a closer reach would be had with the KA trans.
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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« Reply #14 on: 04:09:33 PM / 23-Dec-08 »
k...haven't had a chance to look in my door, but I know my engine was swapped at some point before I bought it for another CA20E.  This one is a silver top, but I don't know if the tranny was swapped too. :S
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« Reply #15 on: 02:12:58 AM / 25-Dec-08 »
both are just as easy as the other. the problem(and its not a big one) with using the ka tranny is the drivshafts and tranny mounts. if you have fab skills then it is the better route. if you are in a hurry like i was then the bellhousing/tranny mashup is the easiest. but keep in mind im going ka tranny asap.
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« Reply #16 on: 05:07:06 AM / 26-Dec-08 »
k got it thanx. Can i get custom drive shafts for it anywher or do i have to fab
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« Reply #17 on: 06:01:47 AM / 26-Dec-08 »
the KA will be so much better than the ca. Thats 60 x-tra ponies. Big difference. She'll have no problem kickin her ass sideways.
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« Reply #18 on: 01:20:54 PM / 26-Dec-08 »
go to a 4x4 shop, or look for a driveline shop. i dont know about where your at but here all the major car parts shops (driveline, tranny,performance,bearings,4x4) are all in one industrial area just outside of downtown.
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« Reply #19 on: 02:21:41 PM / 26-Dec-08 »
Correct me if Im wrong Arro, but Im looking into this swap and I was told that you can make a franken-driveshaft using the front half from an s13 along with your original rear half.  Direct bolt-on and no need for a custom driveshaft, well I guess that would be custom but there is no fab work involved in it.
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