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Offline David B

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How Much Of A Spacer Should I Get?
« on: 12:50:55 PM / 26-May-09 »





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« Reply #1 on: 01:05:35 PM / 26-May-09 »
Well lemme explain, most spacers are in MM, right? It really depends on what YOU want. DO you want to stretch the tire a bit? then you'd need to go out more than if you left the tire like it is now.

Just measure that gap in millimeters, and figure it out. Although judging from the pics, I'd say 20mm which is about an inch. Remember, the rear spacer will need to be bigger than the front. You might want only half that (10mm) on the front with identical-width wheelsets. That's what I'm going to be using (if I remember right).
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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« Reply #2 on: 01:11:56 PM / 26-May-09 »
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Well lemme explain, most spacers are in MM, right? It really depends on what YOU want. DO you want to stretch the tire a bit? then you'd need to go out more than if you left the tire like it is now.

Just measure that gap in millimeters, and figure it out. Although judging from the pics, I'd say 20mm which is about an inch. Remember, the rear spacer will need to be bigger than the front. You might want only half that (10mm) on the front with identical-width wheelsets. That's what I'm going to be using (if I remember right).

i wont need spacers for the front its almost perfect.

i was thinking 25 millimeter, but ill try to measure.

i dont want it poking too much, i want it perfect haha this is the hard part
i have no camber to mess with
« Last Edit: 01:12:12 PM / 26-May-09 by David B »


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« Reply #3 on: 01:12:48 PM / 26-May-09 »
How wide are the wheels? What offset?

Some fitment facts:
Backspace is the distance from the rear outside edge of the rim (outside edge of the tire bead lip) to the mounting face. It's not a + or - number, just a measurement. Backspace usually doesn't change much, regardless of wheel size or offset. This is what places the suspension loads where the designers intended.

Offset is a measurement from the 'imaginary" center-point of the wheel's width to the mounting face. FWD rims have high positive offsets (usually +30 or more), which means the mounting face is 30mm closer to the face of the wheel than the center-point. Old RWD rims had zero or even some negative offset.

This is an S12 with a 14x7 wheel w/ 110mm of backspace (~4 5/16"), and +8mm offset, shod with 195/60 tires, and with (I believe) a 20mm spacer:



Another confusing thing is that 7" wide rims actually measure 8" from outer edge to outer edge. Wheel width is measured between the bead faces, even tho backspace is measured from the outside of the bead lip.
« Last Edit: 01:20:07 PM / 26-May-09 by Arro »
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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« Reply #4 on: 01:20:19 PM / 26-May-09 »
I measured in MM how far it was from where the sidewall was to where I wanted it to be.

It ended up being about an inch, so I went with that.  I think an Inch would look good, but it depends on hot much you're going to lower it since we SRA guys have no camber in the rear.
« Last Edit: 01:20:36 PM / 26-May-09 by Leegamer »

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« Reply #5 on: 01:32:19 PM / 26-May-09 »
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How wide are the wheels? What offset?

Some fitment facts:
Backspace is the distance from the rear outside edge of the rim (outside edge of the tire bead lip) to the mounting face. It's not a + or - number, just a measurement. Backspace usually doesn't change much, regardless of wheel size or offset. This is what places the suspension loads where the designers intended.

Offset is a measurement from the 'imaginary" center-point of the wheel's width to the mounting face. FWD rims have high positive offsets (usually +30 or more), which means the mounting face is 30mm closer to the face of the wheel than the center-point. Old RWD rims had zero or even some negative offset.

This is an S12 with a 14x7 wheel w/ 110mm of backspace (~4 5/16"), and +8mm offset, shod with 195/60 tires, and with (I believe) a 20mm spacer:

Another confusing thing is that 7" wide rims actually measure 8" from outer edge to outer edge. Wheel width is measured between the bead faces, even tho backspace is measured from the outside of the bead lip.


see i dont know my offset, it isnt stated either i cant find it

rims are 7 inches wide

and remember i have no camber fun like in that pic posted



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« Reply #6 on: 01:39:44 PM / 26-May-09 »
20mm sounds like it would suffice, you said last night they were like +14 or +17? you'll prolly have to roll the fenders . and a stretched tire on a 7inch wide wheel is impossible, unless theyre like 165's

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« Reply #7 on: 01:44:09 PM / 26-May-09 »
how about 25?


25 mill

the higher spacer i get, the better my alloys and steelies will look too when i drift lol

25 or 20. hm


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« Reply #8 on: 01:46:36 PM / 26-May-09 »
Those are expensive, if you look hard on ebay you can find them cheaper.

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« Reply #9 on: 01:48:04 PM / 26-May-09 »
honestly i would just go measure, get a ruler measure from the wheel lip to the fender lip

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« Reply #10 on: 02:08:53 PM / 26-May-09 »
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and a stretched tire on a 7inch wide wheel is impossible, unless theyre like 165's

true, it would be a pathetically small footprint. The tire on the picture above (the 195) is slightly. It really should be a 205 on a 7" wheel to be squared off. And bigger would balloon a bit.
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Quote from: ka-t.org
Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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[27:54] zastaba: I had a friend touch the contacts on his distributer once
[28:04] zastaba: He did the super jumping up and down pain dance

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« Reply #11 on: 02:31:11 PM / 26-May-09 »
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Those are expensive, if you look hard on ebay you can find them cheaper.
find me i looked lol


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« Reply #13 on: 02:44:32 PM / 26-May-09 »
find them in 15-20 mil lol


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« Reply #14 on: 03:10:22 PM / 26-May-09 »
1" = 25.4mm
they have 5/8" too which is 15.9mm

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« Reply #15 on: 05:14:17 PM / 26-May-09 »
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1" = 25.4mm
they have 5/8" too which is 15.9mm


What he said.  Haha

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« Reply #16 on: 10:19:05 PM / 26-May-09 »
maybe i should go for the whole inch.

i dont want to poke out dough


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« Reply #17 on: 04:31:47 AM / 27-May-09 »
No. Having them stick out without some stretch is a sin.

I ran 16x8+25s with 205/55s (No stretch) on them on my SRA car, and they were a good fit. Had to lip the fenders, though.

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« Reply #18 on: 10:12:35 AM / 28-May-09 »
I would get hub centric spacers.....if you care about a smooth ride.  Just look for some for a s13....and a center bore of 66

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« Reply #19 on: 10:25:36 AM / 28-May-09 »
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I would get hub centric spacers.....if you care about a smooth ride.  Just look for some for a s13....and a center bore of 66

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/20MM-WHEEL-...sQ5fAccessories

im scared of hubcentric.


ive had hubcentric studs snap in half and i had to ruin the rim to get it off


but i might get them because hubcentric does seem more safe in a way. i have a tq wrench too
« Last Edit: 10:28:14 AM / 28-May-09 by David B »


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Ohh, and unless you havn't figured it out yet, Stop driving with coolant leaks and Stop dropping nails in your fucking trannys!!!