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« on: 11:26:12 AM / 07-Mar-10 »



So the VG33ER Swap is pretty much a huge success. Still not done of course, but it runs and drives and makes people shit their pants, so it's pretty much doing everything I wanted it to.  :laugh:

My Ongoing Mod List:
-VG33ER swap
-subframe swap/suspension overhaul, poly bushings
-short throw shifter
-lighter flywheel
-new wheels and tires
-Z fender flares
-new paint
-custom front end swap/stationary headlights
-interior restore
-sound system upgrade
-make a custom hood
-make new hood to accommodate new front end, less bulgy
-general restoration


I have new ideas for this thing all the time. I'm sure it's going to change a whole lot, but I'm going to try to keep it tasteful.


http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l297/Eternally_Defiant/s12%20stuff/

that's my entire s12 album, in case people wanted to look at the stuff.
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Colin L. - First recorded case of a running, drivable VG33ER swapped S12
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What I lack in decorum, I make up for in absence of tact.
i has sweet coilovers and hoshinos, also my hood isnt pregnant with a supercharger baby.

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« Reply #1 on: 09:36:40 PM / 07-Mar-10 »
VG33ER should be a fun little toy, people have talked about doing it but nobody has yet, so if you do this it would be great if you could document it as detailed as you can on here, with plenty of pics and diagrams and such.

Good luck!
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« Reply #2 on: 10:31:03 PM / 07-Mar-10 »
will do! I happen to believe I can make it work, and I'll definitely record as much as I can to open the doorway for those who'd like to do the same.

thanks!
Colin L. - First recorded case of a running, drivable VG33ER swapped S12
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i has sweet coilovers and hoshinos, also my hood isnt pregnant with a supercharger baby.

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« Reply #3 on: 12:13:41 AM / 08-Mar-10 »
Wait a sec... your name is Colin also?  And you have an SE S12 to start off with?  Interesting...

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« Reply #4 on: 11:32:54 PM / 14-Mar-10 »
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Wait a sec... your name is Colin also?  And you have an SE S12 to start off with?  Interesting...

kinda coincidental how things work out like that, eh?  

just a quickie update, I'm going to get this motor this weekend, so I'll have pictures of the motor at least for you guys by Sunday.

for starters: it's a VG33ER from a 2001 Nissan Xterra, it has approximately 20,000 miles on it, and is completely unmolested

buyin it for 500 bucks. steal or what.
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-Daily Driven S14K
-Graduate college at some point

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i has sweet coilovers and hoshinos, also my hood isnt pregnant with a supercharger baby.

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« Reply #5 on: 03:22:37 PM / 15-Mar-10 »
your sigs match colors too. ... ... .. ..


caged ca20e/ka24e/sr20det/ka24de/1jzgte SRA hatch. super sick

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« Reply #6 on: 03:57:28 PM / 15-Mar-10 »
i once saw a supercharged exterra lay down a solid amount of rubber in second gear, since that day ive been in love.

steal.

i c u breakin' your neck     ;P

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« Reply #7 on: 04:41:15 PM / 15-Mar-10 »
The vg33er is a cool idea but seems like a lot of extra work to me considering it only makes 5 more hp than an sr20det (though it does have about 50 more lbs of torque). On top of that you have to cut your hood for the supercharger which for daily driving practicality is not ideal. Still, I do wish you luck in being the first person to successfully complete a vg33er swap in an s12. It has been attempted by a few other members but all apparently ended in failure.
FIrst my rims are horrible, than there ok when painted black , now my cars horrible, now my fenders are to much after i was told i couldnt do it.... Lol club s12 ftw.....  Only here have Ive been told they look like shit..... SOrry its not bone stock with crown vic rims running the stock vg making 130whp and looks generic like every other one. My car looks dope ive been told this a billion times on local forums....


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« Reply #8 on: 08:37:25 PM / 15-Mar-10 »
you dont have to cut the hood...just get some long ass bolts and 4 deep sockets and space the eff out of the hood.

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« Reply #9 on: 01:24:33 AM / 16-Mar-10 »
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your sigs match colors too. ... ... .. ..

 


Quote from: LonelyS12
i once saw a supercharged exterra lay down a solid amount of rubber in second gear, since that day ive been in love.

steal.

yesss I love this motor hahaha  

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The vg33er is a cool idea but seems like a lot of extra work to me considering it only makes 5 more hp than an sr20det (though it does have about 50 more lbs of torque). On top of that you have to cut your hood for the supercharger which for daily driving practicality is not ideal. Still, I do wish you luck in being the first person to successfully complete a vg33er swap in an s12. It has been attempted by a few other members but all apparently ended in failure.

uhhmm. well I dunno where yer gettin yer numbers but the most stock horses I've ever heard of comin out of an SR were from an S15 motor and that was only 183ish...and about 200 ft lbs of torque, most of the s13 SR20DETs make like 150 or so
 
the vg33er makes 210 horse and 246 ft lb of torque... that's kind of a big difference lol. but thanks for the vote of confidence.


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you dont have to cut the hood...just get some long ass bolts and 4 deep sockets and space the eff out of the hood.

I think I'll prolly use a combination of something like that...and cutting the hood, but fabricating a bit of a scoop to cover it, if you will. something reminiscent of a factory s12 turbo hood mayhaps.    
Colin L. - First recorded case of a running, drivable VG33ER swapped S12
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-'87 SE-V6, VG33ER Swapped
-Daily Driven S14K
-Graduate college at some point

What I lack in decorum, I make up for in absence of tact.
i has sweet coilovers and hoshinos, also my hood isnt pregnant with a supercharger baby.

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« Reply #10 on: 01:49:11 AM / 16-Mar-10 »
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uhhmm. well I dunno where yer gettin yer numbers but the most stock horses I've ever heard of comin out of an SR were from an S15 motor and that was only 183ish...and about 200 ft lbs of torque, most of the s13 SR20DETs make like 150 or so
 
the vg33er makes 210 horse and 246 ft lb of torque... that's kind of a big difference lol. but thanks for the vote of confidence.
How is it you got the vg33er's stock crank horsepower and torque numbers completely accurate but the stock crank sr20det horsepower figures completely wrong? How much crank horsepower do you think a stock ka24de makes hahaha.
FIrst my rims are horrible, than there ok when painted black , now my cars horrible, now my fenders are to much after i was told i couldnt do it.... Lol club s12 ftw.....  Only here have Ive been told they look like shit..... SOrry its not bone stock with crown vic rims running the stock vg making 130whp and looks generic like every other one. My car looks dope ive been told this a billion times on local forums....


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« Reply #11 on: 11:56:14 AM / 16-Mar-10 »
 I'm just tellin you what the dyno tells me...I had a friend who swapped a JDM SR20DET ripped straight from an s15 by his brother in japan and shipped here. it dynoed at 184 and 205.

My 240 had a KA24DE and it dynoed stock at 154 and 158.
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In Print, 2/6/2011 - Nico Club
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-'87 SE-V6, VG33ER Swapped
-Daily Driven S14K
-Graduate college at some point

What I lack in decorum, I make up for in absence of tact.
i has sweet coilovers and hoshinos, also my hood isnt pregnant with a supercharger baby.

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« Reply #12 on: 01:58:59 PM / 16-Mar-10 »
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I'm just tellin you what the dyno tells me...I had a friend who swapped a JDM SR20DET ripped straight from an s15 by his brother in japan and shipped here. it dynoed at 184 and 205.
I think this is where some of the confusion is coming from. You quoted crank horsepower for the vg33er but seem to be quoting wheel horsepower for the sr20's. This is not an equal playing field at all as wheel horsepower is always quite a bit less then crank horsepower due to the drivetrain loss. Here are the official crank horsepower numbers from Nissan for the following completely stock engines:

vg33er: 210hp, 246lbs of torque
s13 redtop/blacktop sr20det: 202hp, 203 lbs of torque (sometimes rounded to 205hp)
s14 sr20det: 217hp, 203 lbs of torque (sometimes rounded to 220hp)
s15 sr20det: 247hp, 202 lbs of torque (sometimes rounded to 250hp)
s13/s14 ka24de: 155hp, 160lbs of torque
FIrst my rims are horrible, than there ok when painted black , now my cars horrible, now my fenders are to much after i was told i couldnt do it.... Lol club s12 ftw.....  Only here have Ive been told they look like shit..... SOrry its not bone stock with crown vic rims running the stock vg making 130whp and looks generic like every other one. My car looks dope ive been told this a billion times on local forums....


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« Reply #13 on: 02:58:58 PM / 16-Mar-10 »
ahhh yes I could see where your coming from then. well  it makes more sense that way, but I still think the vg33er will be more fun. besides, I can use factory frontier/xterra parts to fix it and upgrade it...

and it's a sev6 car, I prefer to keep it a v6
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i has sweet coilovers and hoshinos, also my hood isnt pregnant with a supercharger baby.

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« Reply #14 on: 04:09:33 PM / 17-Mar-10 »
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but I still think the vg33er will be more fun. besides, I can use factory frontier/xterra parts to fix it and upgrade it...and it's a sev6 car, I prefer to keep it a v6
Totally. There is nothing wrong with the vg33er. It is a great motor. It is just quite a bit more work compared to other engines that can make the same horsepower. This is probably why there hasn't been a completed vg33er swap yet (at least on cs12). As I said earlier I totally wish you luck in completing the swap. Sorry if I seemed a little abrasive in my previous posts as it was not my intention.
FIrst my rims are horrible, than there ok when painted black , now my cars horrible, now my fenders are to much after i was told i couldnt do it.... Lol club s12 ftw.....  Only here have Ive been told they look like shit..... SOrry its not bone stock with crown vic rims running the stock vg making 130whp and looks generic like every other one. My car looks dope ive been told this a billion times on local forums....


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« Reply #15 on: 04:33:29 PM / 17-Mar-10 »
ahh, of course, no hostility here just a little misunderstanding. it's all good.

besides, I like to do things the hard way...story of my life haha
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-Graduate college at some point

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« Reply #16 on: 09:42:34 PM / 20-Mar-10 »
There she is! Just got back home today. Went from here to Gainesville and back in two days..lonngggg trip haha.

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Colin L. - First recorded case of a running, drivable VG33ER swapped S12
In Print, 2/6/2011 - Nico Club
Projects:
-'87 SE-V6, VG33ER Swapped
-Daily Driven S14K
-Graduate college at some point

What I lack in decorum, I make up for in absence of tact.
i has sweet coilovers and hoshinos, also my hood isnt pregnant with a supercharger baby.

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« Reply #17 on: 11:17:57 PM / 20-Mar-10 »
this was in gainsville!??!

thats likeee a mile away lol


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« Reply #18 on: 12:06:26 AM / 21-Mar-10 »
i spy a supercharger...score!

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Actually....mod powers plz?!?!?!  0:)

Tedious?  This coming from a person who uses the word twice in a sentence?  I laughed repeatedly...


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« Reply #19 on: 08:32:42 AM / 21-Mar-10 »
yessir. a nice like 20K supercharger motor hidden in sunny florida just for me xD

it's gorgeous. I opened the oil cap and was blinded by the shiny silver interior of the valves...I handed the man his money immediately and bolted before he changed his mind.
Colin L. - First recorded case of a running, drivable VG33ER swapped S12
In Print, 2/6/2011 - Nico Club
Projects:
-'87 SE-V6, VG33ER Swapped
-Daily Driven S14K
-Graduate college at some point

What I lack in decorum, I make up for in absence of tact.
i has sweet coilovers and hoshinos, also my hood isnt pregnant with a supercharger baby.