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Offline benn

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« on: 04:38:34 PM / 05-Apr-10 »
hello i have almost 10,000 for my swap. but anything to look forward to i have read that it is more or less bolt in. but what about the transmission could i use it or not? i have a KA trans swaped in it right now so i might just have to swap the bellhousing again?

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Offline SC S12

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« Reply #1 on: 04:42:15 PM / 05-Apr-10 »
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hello i have almost 10,000 for my swap. but anything to look forward to i have read that it is more or less bolt in. but what about the transmission could i use it or not? i have a KA trans swaped in it right now so i might just have to swap the bellhousing again?
10,000? seriously? get a MK2 Supra and turbo that or a Z31turbo or a  C4 Vette..

sorry

but thats about all i can contribute to this
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« Reply #2 on: 04:12:30 AM / 06-Apr-10 »
well i am trying to get the motor and suspension wheels and paint and body done for all that. but i have never done a swap so i dunno how hard or where to even start. i just want to restore the car and have some deccent power.

Offline Praizewood

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« Reply #3 on: 05:08:57 AM / 06-Apr-10 »
You might find a FJ24 for that money. Be the first one to do it!
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Offline Clowny

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« Reply #4 on: 10:32:25 AM / 06-Apr-10 »
He has an 88 turbo with a ka trans already swapped in it and 10k saved up for an sr swap.......I smell a troll.

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« Reply #5 on: 11:07:02 AM / 06-Apr-10 »
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He has an 88 turbo with a ka trans already swapped in it and 10k saved up for an sr swap.......I smell a troll.

 

This magical 10k is completely irrelevant to the question that is being asked.

If you really do have 10k. Buy a damn Fd3s and be done

"Restore the car", and "Have some decent power" Should not be used in the same sentence.
Either your "Restoring" it to factory, stock, sluggishness for possible Barrett Jackson auctions later on
"Having decent power" is building it a little bit, spending about 3k doing so. and completely forgetting about any possibility of a nominal resale value
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« Reply #6 on: 12:23:08 PM / 06-Apr-10 »
Buy an RS-X from Japan and import it over...for 10k.

But seriously...go look at David B's build and you can see how simple the swap CAN be.

Offline SC S12

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« Reply #7 on: 04:04:33 PM / 06-Apr-10 »
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You might find a FJ24 for that money. Be the first one to do it!
the only one i have found is in OZ and is 15,900 AUD...

but it would be so sweet
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« Reply #8 on: 05:57:28 PM / 06-Apr-10 »
With a decent budget like that I be starting with a complete front cut, that way you get the gearbox, loom, ecu, etc, already bolted to the motor which is a much easier way to start. $10k will dissapear faster than you'd think.
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« Reply #9 on: 02:27:21 PM / 13-Apr-10 »
This is what my friend did with his two forty. but i had a Mk 3 twin turbo supra from jpn and it sucked balls compared to the two forty. And the money i have is from selling the car.

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« Reply #10 on: 02:40:29 PM / 13-Apr-10 »
First off, where are you located? Update your profile, we require it here, and it helps us help you with these kinds of questions. What might seem like a good value and reasonable swap in one part of the world, might be more expensive and difficult elsewhere.

But honestly, nobody spends 10K on a swap into an S12 for "reasonable" power. More like 1K.

And you say you have a KA trans on your otherwise stock S12? So your trans tunnel is cut and your center console relocated?

I'm having trouble with some of the "facts" here... now it may be that you're new and have a few items mixed up... the KA trans is not the same trans as the one that comes in an S12.
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Offline Praizewood

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« Reply #11 on: 02:43:51 PM / 13-Apr-10 »
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the only one i have found is in OZ and is 15,900 AUD...

but it would be so sweet
That's not too bad when considering the price of a 240rs
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« Reply #12 on: 02:45:06 PM / 13-Apr-10 »
Keep it on-topic, please. Let this guy sort out his info, get some facts straight, tell us where in the world he's located, and then we can get a better sense of what this is all about.
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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« Reply #13 on: 03:02:47 PM / 13-Apr-10 »
sorry...
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USEF says "Impulsion is the term used to describe the transmission of an eager and energetic, yet controlled propulsive energy generated from the hindquarters into the athletic movement of the horse.". How cool is that? Impulsion build here


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« Reply #14 on: 05:08:47 PM / 15-Apr-10 »
Sorry i updated my location, No i have taken out the original trans because second gear syncro was shot. I couldnt find another 200sx turbo here there scarce, so i heard you could do a KA trans swap and wouldt take a whole lot so swaped it in there. But my turbo is shot and it isnt running right, so i want a SR20det to keep up with my buddies 240. he got his done up here at a place called Zensport and he is 10k deep on the motor alone. I have no experiance doing motor swaps so just have to have someone do it for me. all i want to know is what will have to be done to get the motor in and have everything work/ anything i need to swap to make it work.

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« Reply #15 on: 12:52:04 AM / 17-Apr-10 »
OK, a KA (or ANY trans in an S13 or S14) is not a direct swap for an S12 trans. That's fact, no debates. However, many of us have swapped to a KA or SR and an S13/S14 trans, but it required modifications to make it work. Those modifications are documented on this site if you look for them, but the trans is NOT a straight swap-through.

SO... then really this is a competition between two guys, to see who can throw enough money at a car via a very lucky shop, and make their shit go faster. And since the SR is supposedly the "best", you assumed that this was the way to go.

Let me tell you -- there is no glory in dumping 10K into an engine, unless at least 70% of that cost was in parts. If you're having a shop do most or all of things, then I guarantee you that 60-70% or more will be spent on labor, not on parts.

So a guy who wants to take the time to learn how to pull an engine and connect a half dozen wires will put more of that money to going faster, and WILL be faster.

10K "thrown" at a KA24DE to build the insides and turbocharge it will make it amazingly potent. Again, I say, go visit ka-t.org and see for yourself.

Or just get an SR and do what's been done.

Look, I don't hate the SR. There are a number of guys with SR's in S12's and I like the swaps. But most of those guys did it themselves, or at least did *some* of it. So they know what is what.

Do you want to tell people how much money you spent? Or do you want to tell people what you managed to do?

I dunno maybe it's just my opinion, but I've never thought the S12 was a good "throw money at it blindly" platform. Always felt it was better for someone who at least wanted to learn about cars. Again, that's also my opinion.
« Last Edit: 12:54:02 AM / 17-Apr-10 by Arro »
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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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[27:54] zastaba: I had a friend touch the contacts on his distributer once
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« Reply #16 on: 04:12:05 AM / 17-Apr-10 »
10 thousand....... cookies?


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« Reply #17 on: 02:21:41 PM / 17-Apr-10 »
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Sorry i updated my location, No i have taken out the original trans because second gear syncro was shot. I couldnt find another 200sx turbo here there scarce, so i heard you could do a KA trans swap and wouldt take a whole lot so swaped it in there. But my turbo is shot and it isnt running right, so i want a SR20det to keep up with my buddies 240. he got his done up here at a place called Zensport and he is 10k deep on the motor alone. I have no experiance doing motor swaps so just have to have someone do it for me. all i want to know is what will have to be done to get the motor in and have everything work/ anything i need to swap to make it work.

My car was tuned at zensport a few years ago. If you want a shop to do the swap, price out more places. Try calling up Neptune D in burnaby and see what they have to say.

Or just do it youself and save yourself an assload of $$$
And doing the swap yourself,will be way more worth it in the long run as you did it and not someone else
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« Reply #18 on: 10:57:14 PM / 19-Apr-10 »
Ok well apparently i am not going to get the awnser to my question but i want to build the motor to with stand power way over my goal. and restore the body. I dont have a whole lot of money lost my liscense but zensport said about 800-1000. with a water to air intercooler T28 Turbo i already have and tuned

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« Reply #19 on: 12:03:53 AM / 20-Apr-10 »
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hello i have almost 10,000 for my swap.
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I dont have a whole lot of money
This guys posts are really making next to zero sense.
FIrst my rims are horrible, than there ok when painted black , now my cars horrible, now my fenders are to much after i was told i couldnt do it.... Lol club s12 ftw.....  Only here have Ive been told they look like shit..... SOrry its not bone stock with crown vic rims running the stock vg making 130whp and looks generic like every other one. My car looks dope ive been told this a billion times on local forums....