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Author Topic: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?  (Read 9883 times)

Offline MT017

1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« on: 02:12:55 PM / 05-Jun-11 »
ok so yea im a total noob when it comes to swaps. i basically need to know what i need to get to swap a SR20 into my S12 which currently has a VG30E in it. Since its so hard to find any parts for that engine i figure a swap would be easier if i knew what i needed to do. :blink:

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Offline Maxpow

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Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #1 on: 02:33:50 PM / 05-Jun-11 »
"There's no replacement for displacement"




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Offline silverton

Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #2 on: 02:55:54 PM / 05-Jun-11 »
vg30's are cake to turbo and can take upwards of 500 hp without any beefing up of the internals.

I'm kind of hard pressed on the issue, but you're better off getting a car that was originally a 4 cylinder, as you'll need the cross member anyway!

But, if you do take the vg out of it, just makes my car all the more rare. :D
-Dennis

BoostedVG (in regards to people hating on the VG) - Me thinks they were not the mechanic they thought and blamed it all on the engine.

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Offline Colonel Gustard

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Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #3 on: 03:29:46 PM / 05-Jun-11 »
Don't swap out the vg or you will be forever gay and hated. Se are too rare t just swap ok the vg. Get a ca car instead and swap that out
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what the hell is camber?

I thought about my s12 and the parts i want to put in her :P

Obviously, you have yet to meet Colonel Gustard.
I saw some of his posts, he seems like more fun than a barrel of hookers.

Offline Gomesf1

Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #4 on: 06:23:27 PM / 05-Jun-11 »
VG OR DIE!!!!!
imagine a ka and a vg as women. I prefer the one that had less hands on it. The ka is a loose prostitute that every one and their brother knows lol.
if my dicks not hard by the end of a run....it wasnt fast enough!!!!!
i heard if you put sand in your gas tank the ultra fine particles clean out your fuel injectors

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Offline BoostedVG

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Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #5 on: 08:42:19 PM / 05-Jun-11 »
Turbo charge the vg. I wouldn't call it easy. I would call it highly rewarding!


Anyone interested in turbocharging their vg? Shoot me a PM. Buck Ofama

Offline VG33ERGazelle?

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Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #6 on: 09:42:15 PM / 05-Jun-11 »
Don't swap out the vg or you will be forever gay and hated. Se are too rare t just swap ok the vg. Get a ca car instead and swap that out
VG OR DIE!!!!!

case closed.
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Offline Colonel Gustard

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Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #7 on: 09:43:15 PM / 05-Jun-11 »
^ im with smart guy
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what the hell is camber?

I thought about my s12 and the parts i want to put in her :P

Obviously, you have yet to meet Colonel Gustard.
I saw some of his posts, he seems like more fun than a barrel of hookers.

Offline Gomesf1

Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #8 on: 08:52:08 AM / 06-Jun-11 »
^im with guy thats with smart guy

Post Merge: 08:54:12 AM / 06-Jun-11
Plug vgs are more rewarding cuz sr's are dime a dozen n when ppl ask u wat motor u got n u say vg theyll be like from 300zx n ur like hell yea bitch
« Last Edit: 08:54:12 AM / 06-Jun-11 by Gomesf1 »
imagine a ka and a vg as women. I prefer the one that had less hands on it. The ka is a loose prostitute that every one and their brother knows lol.
if my dicks not hard by the end of a run....it wasnt fast enough!!!!!
i heard if you put sand in your gas tank the ultra fine particles clean out your fuel injectors

[13:23] drummingpariah: the race card is what everyone who's not white gets to play in the poker game of life
[13:35] drummingpariah: it always wins

Offline ka-tgazelle

Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #9 on: 02:49:46 PM / 06-Jun-11 »
Swapped in a ka-t and havent looked back JUST saying guys.
Where we're going... We don't need camber.

Offline Colonel Gustard

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Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #10 on: 03:00:38 PM / 06-Jun-11 »
Swapped in a ka-t and havent looked back JUST saying guys.
no one cares about your opinion
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what the hell is camber?

I thought about my s12 and the parts i want to put in her :P

Obviously, you have yet to meet Colonel Gustard.
I saw some of his posts, he seems like more fun than a barrel of hookers.

Offline VG33ERGazelle?

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Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #11 on: 03:32:39 PM / 06-Jun-11 »
if I wanted a ka-t I'd boost my s13, JUST sayin.
« Last Edit: 03:32:59 PM / 06-Jun-11 by VG33ERGazelle? »
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Offline Maxpow

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Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #12 on: 04:05:57 PM / 06-Jun-11 »
no one cares about your opinion

+1




Vg's are great when they are fresh. Me and gustard know.
1987 Nissan 200sx SE ("The Squirrely Drifter") - Totaled and Gone forever
1987 Nissan 200sx SE ("The Weebly Wobbler") - Impounded and Gone forever
2007 Kia Spectra - Fantastic Daily Driver - Custom CAI, NGK wires/plugs.
2002 Hyundai Accent - Totaled and Gone Forever.

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Offline silverton

Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #13 on: 06:17:26 PM / 06-Jun-11 »
the only reason you swapped out your vg is because it blew, right?

I have a 120,000 mile motor that's had nothing but synthetic since it was new, and it pulls.  pulls damn hard!  There's nothing like the torque of a V6 (well, maybe a V8...).  especially when you're putting out 180tq @ 3k or less. 

And like I said, the stock VG will handle 400-500hp without any internal upgrading.
-Dennis

BoostedVG (in regards to people hating on the VG) - Me thinks they were not the mechanic they thought and blamed it all on the engine.

Colonol Gustard - youre one of the few people that represent the s12 chassis like a boss!

Offline Gomesf1

Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #14 on: 07:48:48 PM / 06-Jun-11 »
no one cares about your opinion
if I wanted a ka-t I'd boost my s13, JUST sayin.
+1




Vg's are great when they are fresh. Me and gustard know.

the only reason you swapped out your vg is because it blew, right?

I have a 120,000 mile motor that's had nothing but synthetic since it was new, and it pulls.  pulls damn hard!  There's nothing like the torque of a V6 (well, maybe a V8...).  especially when you're putting out 180tq @ 3k or less. 

And like I said, the stock VG will handle 400-500hp without any internal upgrading.
+1

Post Merge: 07:49:52 PM / 06-Jun-11
Vg30e SE S12's RULE !!!!!
« Last Edit: 07:49:52 PM / 06-Jun-11 by Gomesf1 »
imagine a ka and a vg as women. I prefer the one that had less hands on it. The ka is a loose prostitute that every one and their brother knows lol.
if my dicks not hard by the end of a run....it wasnt fast enough!!!!!
i heard if you put sand in your gas tank the ultra fine particles clean out your fuel injectors

[13:23] drummingpariah: the race card is what everyone who's not white gets to play in the poker game of life
[13:35] drummingpariah: it always wins

Offline ka-tgazelle

Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #15 on: 08:52:43 PM / 06-Jun-11 »
SIlverton you should read in to the ka a bit more , its a lower rpm torquey motor , making all its power low end ,  the vg only makes 160 torque.
Where we're going... We don't need camber.

Offline Colonel Gustard

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Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #16 on: 09:31:49 PM / 06-Jun-11 »
ummm more than 160tq sir
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what the hell is camber?

I thought about my s12 and the parts i want to put in her :P

Obviously, you have yet to meet Colonel Gustard.
I saw some of his posts, he seems like more fun than a barrel of hookers.

Offline silverton

Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #17 on: 09:41:37 PM / 06-Jun-11 »
the KA is a truck motor, through and through.  The VG makes 173-182tq. 

KA24DE makes 155hp @ 5400rpm and 160tq @ 4400rpm

VG30E  makes 160hp @ 5200rpm and 174tq @ 4000rpm (the vg s12 version)

They are only .6 liters of displacement apart, so that's why the torque numbers aren't too far off.  To be fair, we should be comparing a vg30de to the ka24de, or the vg30e to the ka24e.  But the vg30 isn't as stressed as the power is spread across two extra cylinders. 

All in all, VG > KA.  I'll leave the four cylinders to stripped down model pickups, and hondas.
« Last Edit: 09:41:59 PM / 06-Jun-11 by silverton »
-Dennis

BoostedVG (in regards to people hating on the VG) - Me thinks they were not the mechanic they thought and blamed it all on the engine.

Colonol Gustard - youre one of the few people that represent the s12 chassis like a boss!

Offline Gomesf1

Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #18 on: 10:02:09 PM / 06-Jun-11 »
All in all, VG > KA.  I'll leave the four cylinders to stripped down model pickups, and hondas.
BURN!!
imagine a ka and a vg as women. I prefer the one that had less hands on it. The ka is a loose prostitute that every one and their brother knows lol.
if my dicks not hard by the end of a run....it wasnt fast enough!!!!!
i heard if you put sand in your gas tank the ultra fine particles clean out your fuel injectors

[13:23] drummingpariah: the race card is what everyone who's not white gets to play in the poker game of life
[13:35] drummingpariah: it always wins

Offline ka-tgazelle

Re: 1987 200sx VG30E to SR20?
« Reply #19 on: 12:21:16 AM / 07-Jun-11 »
You can leave them to trucks, japanese engine builders now use them for s14 and s13's .  THats about the only insult you have, forgetting the ka24e was the only motor to come in the trucks......

Post Merge: 12:21:48 AM / 07-Jun-11
The dohc ka never came in a truck  look that shit up.
« Last Edit: 12:21:48 AM / 07-Jun-11 by ka-tgazelle »
Where we're going... We don't need camber.