Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension

Started by EightySix200SX, 11:52:04 AM / 06-Jul-11

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EightySix200SX

S12 Weld-on Coilover Conversion - Adjustable Suspension for the S12.
Written by Justin Carter

The following is a write-up of the coilover setup we have come up with here in SoCal. Engineered and tested by us of the Low.XII.Position crew, it is a for sure way to lower your S12 without converting to the S13 suspension. It is what I am running in addition to Andrew (demonic_s12) and Sterling (sterlingps12). The only difference between between our S12s and what Sterling did was that he used S13 tubes in the front. It can also be verified by Colin (draconis) who road passenger in Andrew's car last year.

In the past many months there have been much interest and many emails inquiring as to our suspension setup so the following is the list of our suspension setup.
This setup allows one to retain the factory S12 tubes.

You will need a welder and a grinder as the front tubes must be sectioned 40mm shorter to accept a shorter SW20 shock. Also, once can use S13 camber plate and in doing so, inform Techno Toy Tuning that you will be running S13 camber plates with SW20 AGX socks and they will send you two small collars that will slip onto the camber plate to take up the slack. They are aware of the situation, so do not worry about their confusion. You will have to grind off the stock perch and weld the Ground Control perch in its place. Other than that, the necessary steps for the modifying the front suspension.

For the rear, the setup is easy and literally drop in straight out of the box. The Mustang Foxbody struts however will require some shimming. To do so, one will need four washers on each shock on the lower mounting bracket on both sides of the car to take up the slack.

Parts list -------------------------------------------


FRONT:
ROLL CENTER ADJUSTERS- http://technotoytuni...etail.php?p=815
S13 CAMBERPLATES- http://technotoytuni...etail.php?p=819
280ZX GC SLEEVES- http://technotoytuni...etail.php?p=802
MR2 SHOCKS- http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item255c19e4ab

REAR:
SPRING PERCH [MUST USE SS-85500-A] Click for SPRING PERCH
SPRINGS [MUST USE 5"X8" SPRING] Click for REAR SPRINGS, various rates as high as 500 lb.
FOXBODY SHOCKS- http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item4cf6ee146b

This is what to expect throughout the process




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Quote from: fyneyoungstunna on 07:29:16 PM / 09-Jul-11
Damn let a Nig have a moment of glory b4 you start fucking with him.

zilvia_brothers

Awesome work justin! Andrew talked to me about going thia route and i might do this in the future
"keep'n it simple with being old skool!!!"

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DirtyGaze

Very well thought out and takes out the guessing game on which parts to buy from where.  Super legit.  Your the man Justin!

S12-AR

THANK YOU JUSTIN FOR THIS AWSOME WRITE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

mentalxpreshun


Jay

Stickied.
$882 before shipping though.
Kinda pricey for something that needs to be assembled.
BUT! It can be bought over time. That's nice.

And please, if you could, change it from being all caps? It's kinda ugly and a lot harder to read.

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Jordan

I understand everything except what it means to "section the tubes by 40mm".
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Jordan

1986 SE Notch Swap in progress. Build Thread:   http://club-s12.org/v3/index.php?topic=27158

tommy

remove 40mm from the total length of the tubes between the perch and the spindle...
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SlickS12

Great write-up.  For those who want to get the basic idea of what to do take a look at what they did on a corolla

->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDbraWBPRys&feature=BFa&list=FLF84MfElKGTM&index=2 (go to 1:10)
'84 SRA VG Notch

Quote from: sam31183 on 07:14:51 PM / 11-Feb-11
yah, camber city called, they want you to run for mayor.
Quote from: jphillips on 04:13:34 PM / 30-Mar-11
Canyon Roads...you go. Faster. And faster. And faster. And then youÃÆ'Ã,¯Ã‚Ã,¿Ã‚Ã,½re simply existing above an asphalt adventure.

Jordan

That video cleared everything up. Thanks SlickS12.
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Jordan

1986 SE Notch Swap in progress. Build Thread:   http://club-s12.org/v3/index.php?topic=27158

silvia love

hey eightysix, do you have any binding issues? hows yours setup between the upper seat and camber plate?


BoostedVG

This is the exact set up I run and like alot. Bart did my fronts when he was still around and I got the rear set idea from ModMaster. This info is already out there but not simply put in one thread like this. Nice job!


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sam31183

i am going to be doing this eventually...we are moving next month and i will be within walking distance to work...so the notch is getting parked for some time...

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Build Thread Hatch CA18DET Eventually a Track Whore
Build Thread Notch KA24DE Daily Driver

Quote from: Kustamogenhaha me modding would be a disaster.....Id get all power hungry and  demand n00dz from everyone. Then make all the canadian s12er's come here  and massage my feet and make me jello pudding.

Actually....mod powers plz?!?!?!  0:)
Quote from: Shark808 on 02:17:44 PM / 13-Dec-11
Tedious?  This coming from a person who uses the word twice in a sentence?  I laughed repeatedly...


EightySix200SX

Quote from: silvia love on 07:22:59 PM / 06-Jul-11
hey eightysix, do you have any binding issues? hows yours setup between the upper seat and camber plate?




nope no binding issues i have upper bearings that it rotates on
ÃÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ,«LOW.XII.POSITIONÃÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ,».nostalgic car culture & club ÃÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ,¦est.2004
ÃÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ,¡lowfunsexytime! Global New & Used Parts Sales/Distribution

CLUB-S12 FEEDBACK RATING +72! CLICK HERE
ANYTHING  LOOKIKG FOR :  PARTS IN STOCK CLICK HERE
NEED S12 PARTS NOT LISTED IN MY THREAD? EMAIL lowXIIposition@yahoo.com OR Facebook US: www.facebook.com/need12parts/
I <3 DEMI LOVATO= ID SMASH! SELENA GOMEZ/MILEY CYRUS= R TRASH!

Quote from: fyneyoungstunna on 07:29:16 PM / 09-Jul-11
Damn let a Nig have a moment of glory b4 you start fucking with him.

silvia love

did the bearings come with the gc sleeve kit? any pics of it?

mentalxpreshun


SlickS12

'84 SRA VG Notch

Quote from: sam31183 on 07:14:51 PM / 11-Feb-11
yah, camber city called, they want you to run for mayor.
Quote from: jphillips on 04:13:34 PM / 30-Mar-11
Canyon Roads...you go. Faster. And faster. And faster. And then youÃÆ'Ã,¯Ã‚Ã,¿Ã‚Ã,½re simply existing above an asphalt adventure.

8SixS12

Part numbers instead of links would be better but otherwise, this is serious write up!  Much props EightySix!
"Sense is not always common" -self quote

My Build Thread: http://club-s12.org/retro4/index.php?topic=36053.0

Arro

A good write-up, but even though he screwed some people over, we need to give Bart the credit he is due, because he did this years ago, and Sterling got the design from him:



Sterling took a trip up to Idaho to see his setup and found out what he needed. But yeah, Bart is the one who sorted it out. Interestingly enough, my RS-X had the same kind of setup on it using a Ground Control kit w/ Eibachs, albeit crudely done.

I second the motion for adding part numbers so we can hunt for more than one vendor for these things.
-Jason Arro


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formerly,
'85 Nissan Silvia RS-X - FJ20 w/ dual Weber carbs
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Quote from: ka-t.orgHella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
Quote from: s-chassis_only on 07:43:21 PM / 25-Sep-10 i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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sam31183

for the shocks....

92 MR2 Front Shocks (Part Number: 765015)
96 Mustang FoxBody Shocks (Part Number: 743021)


you can use either the 96 style or older mustang shocks as they are almost identical anyways...through most places i found the newer mustang shocks where cheaper though and that is why i went with them for the canuck/agx set up.

Dave Coleman for President of Earth!!!!
Build Thread Hatch CA18DET Eventually a Track Whore
Build Thread Notch KA24DE Daily Driver

Quote from: Kustamogenhaha me modding would be a disaster.....Id get all power hungry and  demand n00dz from everyone. Then make all the canadian s12er's come here  and massage my feet and make me jello pudding.

Actually....mod powers plz?!?!?!  0:)
Quote from: Shark808 on 02:17:44 PM / 13-Dec-11
Tedious?  This coming from a person who uses the word twice in a sentence?  I laughed repeatedly...