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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #20 on: 10:06:40 PM / 17-Jul-11 »
Just for the record, the 96 mustang is not a "fox body".  That body style ended in 1993.
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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #21 on: 10:33:10 PM / 17-Jul-11 »
^ correct sir.... 94-98 = SN95
1999-2004 = SN95 "New Edge"

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this has been why I've been semi confused reading these posts haha... are they early SN95 shocks or foxbody shocks that have been used? but if 96's are whats workin thats all I need to know =)
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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #22 on: 10:51:44 PM / 17-Jul-11 »
Props to Bart too, wherever he is and oh yeah. Could this be done without camber plates? Could you just use the oem upper strut mounts w/ GCs?

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Btw, I compared both a Koni yellow SN95 shock and a "fox body" shock today at work.  The 96 SN96 shock is slightly shorter than the fox body shock if anybody wanted to know.
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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #23 on: 02:37:08 AM / 18-Jul-11 »
the rear suspension on a mustang though hasnt changed pretty much since the day it was designed...sra is just sooooooo simple.

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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #24 on: 04:36:13 PM / 18-Jul-11 »
the rear suspension on a mustang though hasnt changed pretty much since the day it was designed...sra is just sooooooo simple.

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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #25 on: 06:04:35 PM / 18-Jul-11 »
Yeah.  I thought about that before but never looked into it. 
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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #26 on: 08:20:34 PM / 18-Jul-11 »
but.. when you lower them theyre ganna... preload the strut i guess you could say..


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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #27 on: 09:23:36 AM / 19-Jul-11 »
What will preload the strut? Please elaborate.
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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #28 on: 02:00:00 PM / 20-Jul-11 »
but.. when you lower them theyre ganna... preload the strut i guess you could say..
What will preload the strut? Please elaborate.

Did you mean that about the fox body or the newer shocks?
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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #29 on: 03:42:06 PM / 20-Jul-11 »
What he's trying to say is the actual strut body is a fixed size. If you lower it too far the the strut will no longer preload the spring. No spring preload means you can have a spring that doesn't permanently sit in/on the perch and can come unseated..

No spring preload is bad juju.

Easy enough to work around though. A couple helper springs will solve that little issue.

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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #30 on: 06:20:59 PM / 20-Jul-11 »
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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #31 on: 07:34:23 PM / 20-Jul-11 »
thats not what im talking about jay, but good point..

Most coilovers, the lower spindle mount spins around the sturt itself... so you can lower and raise the suspension without moving the spring or strut.

If you take oem struts and cut the springs or throw on shorter springs, its going to quickly blow the strut.

With this method, you have the ability to adjust the height... but you really cant without damaging the setup.


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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #32 on: 08:18:56 PM / 20-Jul-11 »
Yeah that feature is only seen on the really good coilover kit$.  I see your point but, isn't that the reason the shorter mr2 strut insert is used with the coilover sleeve?
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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #33 on: 08:20:58 PM / 20-Jul-11 »
Yes, but you still cant adjust the sleeve lower without harming the strut.


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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #34 on: 01:11:24 AM / 02-Aug-11 »
damn... anybody wanna buy some canuck lowering springs hahaha

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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #35 on: 02:56:39 AM / 02-Aug-11 »
Most coilovers, the lower spindle mount spins around the sturt itself... so you can lower and raise the suspension without moving the spring or strut.

If you take oem struts and cut the springs or throw on shorter springs, its going to quickly blow the strut.


So you were talking about the other half that I completely forgot about.
Yeah, that IS another thing. Bottoming out struts is very very very very bad.....

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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #36 on: 06:03:40 AM / 02-Aug-11 »
Yeah. I see your point now.  Besides, I stArted adding up all the cost of all the components and meagans or BCs aren't too far off in price.  Come to think of it, the added benefits of the s13 conversion +coilovers outweighs the money you spend IMO.
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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #37 on: 08:22:00 AM / 02-Aug-11 »
If you look at the image of sterling admiring his work, you can see that the appropriate drop is only really like an inch or two.



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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #38 on: 02:03:42 PM / 02-Aug-11 »
Yeah. I see your point now.  Besides, I stArted adding up all the cost of all the components and meagans or BCs aren't too far off in price.  Come to think of it, the added benefits of the s13 conversion +coilovers outweighs the money you spend IMO.

Yeah, then you have the access of bigger brakes, front five lug that's easier to find, Etc etc. Not to mention brakes and bearings that are a LOT easier to service, higher steering angle kits, more choices in coilover system manufacturers. The only real benefit of not converting, is keeping the stock design and not requiring the coilovers. Which is great for some who want a nice drop, but Not sacrifice too much ride height/comfort.

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Re: Definite Weld On Coilover Parts List For s12 suspension
« Reply #39 on: 05:35:02 PM / 02-Aug-11 »
If you look at the image of sterling admiring his work, you can see that the appropriate drop is only really like an inch or two.

I'm dropped nearly 3" so "appropriate" depends on wheel and tire size and opinion.
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