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Offline redbarron

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Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« on: 06:52:18 PM / 15-Apr-12 »
The purpose of this thread will be to document the interesting history of this car. (4-15-2012) A rescue mission is underway as this old 1988 SE V6 sits in a junk yard in New Mexico. Have until no later than May 8, 2012 to rescue from certain doom. But first, an interesting history about this well known car in the S12 community.

(Edit: Coming Soon)

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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #1 on: 09:32:15 PM / 15-Apr-12 »
Yes I hope you finish this post!
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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #2 on: 10:21:52 PM / 15-Apr-12 »
Yes I hope you finish this post!
OR YOUR PERMA-BANNED!!!

JK gl in saving the car ;)
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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #3 on: 10:39:01 PM / 15-Apr-12 »
Yes good luck!!! I hope you can!
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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #4 on: 05:31:01 PM / 19-Apr-12 »
Yes I hope you finish this post!

I like how excited Arro is about the post but mentions absolutly NOTHING about the car. 

"YEA WOOOO - FINISH THAT POST LIKE IT OWES YOU MONEY!!"

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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #5 on: 02:10:50 AM / 28-Apr-12 »
VIN: JN1VS26S2JW003004
5 Speed Manual Transmission
1988 Nissan 200SX SE VG30E 3.0 V6 ((UPDATED APRIL 28, 2012))


*****PENDING FIRST OWNER COMMENTS FOR THIS SECTION*****
*****PART 1*****
(FIRST OWNER/FIRST OPERATOR - SGT. MARLON ELMORE)
1988:
12-20-1988 Vehicle purchased at Bankston Nissan of Irving Texas

1989:
2-23-1989   Odometer Reading: 21,220
      Information Source: Texas Motor Vehicle Dept. Duncanville, TX Title #22255198
      General Comments: Title or registration issued First lien reported

1990:
June 8, 1990
   from Camp Pendleton, CA,
   to Missoula, MT
   to Great Falls, MT
   to Glacier National Park, Canada
   to Camp Pendleton, CA
   to Duncanville, TX
   to Glascow, KY
   to Camp Lejuene, NC
   to Norfolk, VA
   to St Augustine, FL
   to Camp Lejuene, NC
   to Duncanville, TX
   to Camp Pendleton, CA by January 3, 1991

1991:
Approx. January 10th 1991
   from Camp Pendleton, CA
   to Duncanville, TX

1992:

1993:

1994:

1995:

1996:

1997:
2-15-1997   Odometer Reading: 184,713
      Information Source: Texas Inspection Station Garland, TX
      General Comments: Passed emissions inspection

1998:

1999:
3-17-1999   Information Source: Texas Motor Vehicle Dept. Rowlett, TX Title #05732336225093149
      General Comments: Title or registration issued First lien reported, Exempt from odometer reporting

(****THIS SECTION IS VAGUE IN REGARDS TO THE SECOND OWNER'S KNOWLEDGE OF THE VEHICLE'S HISTORY/AWAITING ORIGINAL OWNER'S VERIFICATION****)
While the original owner was in Mexico, outside of a bar, someone keyed every panel on the car. The vehicle was less than a year old at that time. It was repainted and garage kept until about 1997. This car has traveled most of the North American continent.
*****END*****










*****PART 2*****
(SECOND OWNER/SECOND OPERATOR - JERRY MARKHAM)
1999:
April/May 1999 (Primarily North-East Texas Commuting)
   from Rowlett, TX
   to Garland, TX(April/May 1999 - Spring 2000) Purchase price $800

May/June 1999
   I was pulling into a dark parking lot one night and I didn't see the chain link barrier that crippled the drivers headlight assembly. I pulled the headlight assembly off of my first ever S12, a burgundy 1987 200SX XE and replaced the damaged one. The chain also damaged the hood and both fenders.

Replaced:
Driver Side Headlight Assembly
Brake Pads (All)
Brake Rotors (All)
Clutch Master Cylinder
Power Steering Rack
Timing Belt
Accessory Belts
Water Pump
Battery
Wiper Inserts
Mass Air Flow Sensor
Valve Cover Gaskets
Tie Rod End Boots
Rear Axle Boots
Tires (x4)

11-5-1999 Takata Seatbelt recall performed, Fuel Injector recall performed

2000:
   to Richardson, TX(Spring 2000 - November 2000)
   to McKinney, TX(November 2000 - April 2004) to Oklahoma City, OK (1 weekend)

6-27-2000   Information Source: Texas Motor Vehicle Dept. McKinney, TX Title #04330136690154142
      General Comments: Title issued, Title or registration issued

2001:
1-25-2001 Replaced Power Steering Rack again, Speedometer cable, clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing, brake master cylinder

9-18-2001 Replaced sway bar bushings, outer link bushings, power steering high pressure hose

2002:
1-26-2001 Replaced clutch again (warranty), replaced tensioner bearing

2-01-2002   Information Source: Texas Motor Vehicle Dept. McKinney, TX Title #04330136690154142
      General Comments: Title issued

11-06-2002 Purchased new rear view mirrors, sun visor weather strip and rear decals

11-19-2002 Replaced valve cover gaskets, PCV valve, clutch slave cylinder, coolant flush, right side headlight

12-06-2002 New custom paint job, new sunroof, new side mirrors, new decals. Body shop threw away the front air spoiler by mistake.

2003:
1-12-2003 Painted wiper arms
7-21-2003 Replaced starter
8-12-2003 Replaced alternator

2004:
   to Ft. Worth, TX(April 2004 - July 2004)
   to Rockwall, TX(July 2004 - September 1, 2010)

9-22-2004 Wheel damaged and repaired

2005:
4-02-2005 Replaced rubber stops that keeps the brake lights from staying on
5-06-2005 Replaced alternator again
6-22-2005 Replaced rear brakes
Many times later in the year starters, alternators, batteries put me through electrical hell!
Used a lot of power steering fluid

2006:
1-24-2006 Clutch master cylinder
1-27-2006 clutch slave cylinder
7-15-2006 Replaced radiator cap, thermostat & gasket, hoses, coolant, t-belt, crank seal, cam seal, water pump, radiator hoses
7-22-2006 positive battery cable harness
Continued to use a lot of power steering fluid
7-29-2006 Replaced starter
8-26-2006 Replaced a/c control assembly
11-6-2006 Replaced power steering rack, a/c blower motor, power steering pump

2007:
3-31-2007 Replaced starter, speedometer cable
4-21-2007 Installed all new brake pads
5-12-2007 Install new ignition switch
Early June - drove about 3 hours west of DFW to visit a rattle snake farm
6-19-2007 Replaced the battery
6-27-2007 Replaced the heater core hose due to overheating
8-25-2007 Replaced plug wires and completed a tune up
8-28-2007 Replaced water pump
10-06-2007 Replaced fan motor assembly
12-28-2007 Replaced alternator, catalytic converter

2008:
11-13-2008 First day of photo shoot for 2009 Club-S12.org calendar competition
11-15-2008 Second day of photo shoot for 2009 Club-S12.org calendar competition
12-23-2008 Revelation that the car won the October spot for the 2009 Club-S12.org calendar competition

2009:
5-26-2009 Put car in storage for the summer
8-07-2009 Replaced battery cables

2010:
8-23-2010 Last time to drive the car before the fuel pump completely failed
9-1-2010 Unofficially sold car to Josh Bohn for $1200. He replaced the fuel pump on the spot.

*****END*****










*****PENDING THIRD OPERATOR COMMENTS FOR THIS SECTION*****
*****PART 3*****
(THIRD OPERATOR - JOSH BOHN)
September 1, 2010
   from Rockwall, TX
   to Abilene, TX

September 1-7, 2010
   New owner installed cold air intake and electric fan.
   New owner drove into a fence and broke the driver side rear view mirror

September 22 - October 3, 2010
   New owner lowered vehicle

2011:
January 22/23
   New owner tried to sell the car to a friend who has wanted it for months. Car had been sitting for about 3 months.

July 4, 2011
   Josh posted car for sale on Craigslist

*****END*****










*****PENDING INDEFINITE FOURTH OPERATOR COMMENTS FOR THIS SECTION (ONLY 3RD PARTY INFORMATION AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME)*****
*****PART 4*****
(FOURTH OPERATOR - UNKNOWN)
August 21(?), 2011
   Vehicle re-sold to a military resident of New Mexico
   towed to Alamogordo, NM

December 14, 2011
   CASE NUMBER: 2011-07211-TR Criminal Summons from City of Alamorgordo State of New Mexico sent to Jerry Markham, the 'registered' owner for failure to display current and valid registration plate.

December 19, 2011
   Jerry Markham, the 'registered' owner, received and contested CASE NUMBER: 2011-07211-TR Criminal Summons from City of Alamorgordo State of New Mexico

December 20, 2011
   Jerry Markham, the 'registered' owner, contested CASE NUMBER: 2011-07211-TR Criminal Summons from City of Alamorgordo State of New Mexico. Documentation provided to clear 'registered' owner of any liability from September 1, 2010 to date.

December 21-23, 2011
   Jerry Markham, the 'registered' owner released of CASE NUMBER: 2011-07211-TR Criminal Summons from City of Alamorgordo State of New Mexico by the judge.

December 27, 2011
   Texas Department of Transportation vehicle transfer confirmation document issued and (â„¢) Transfer Mark placed on file for this vehicle's VIN.

2012:
January ?, 2012
   Tish, the property manager of Starlight Court Apartments, Alamogordo, NM first noticed the vehicle abandoned. She stated that the car appeared to have been stripped. She allowed a month to go by giving someone a chance to make claim to it.

February 14, 2012
   Tish, the property manager of Starlight Court Apartments, Alamogordo, NM contracted North 54 Salvage to remove the vehicle from her property.

*****END*****










*****PART 5*****
(SECOND OWNER/SECOND OPERATOR - JERRY MARKHAM)
2012:
April 9, 2012
   Certified "Notice of Mechanic's or Landowner's Lien" received from North 54 Salvage Alamogordo, NM stating the registered owner's vehicle is being held in their custody with charges accruing daily. I called them to inform them that I no longer own the vehicle but would be interested in knowing more about the situation.

April 10, 2012
   The original owner, Marlon Elmore, informs me that he would like to try and get the car back.

April 11, 2012
   Marlon Elmore and a friend of his confirm that they surely want to get the car back as long as I can put the backend details together.

April 14, 2012
   Marlon Elmore informs me that he won't be able to save the car.

April 16, 2012
   After consulting with the Texas Department of Motor Vehicles, I filed for a lost title with Josh Bohn's consent. The new title was issued on the spot. Consulted with the auto transporter on when the vehicle could be picked up and the price. I decided to go through with saving the car. Upon talking with the salvage yard, I learned that the car was scheduled to be crushed if not paid for and picked up within a matter of days.

April 17, 2012
   I secured a storage space for the car.

April 18, 2012
   Towed from North 54 Salvage Alamogordo, NM

April 19, 2012
   to Rockwall, TX (Where car sits currently)
   A/C compressor has been removed (found in the luggage area)
   Ignition is missing
   No keys
   Dents and dings all over the car
   Interior filled with sand
   Dashboard cracked
   Gauge cluster cover broken
   Door panels are destroyed and off
   Dome light broken
   Front left tire flat and all are bald

April 21, 2012
   Started removing all of the trash and auto parts from the interior of the vehicle.
   Dusted and cleaned the exterior. The paint is oxidized.
   Dusted and cleaned off some of the interior but there is so much sand that can only be removed by vacuum.

*****END*****

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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #6 on: 08:27:32 AM / 28-Apr-12 »
Poor s12
I keep my car cleaner then my room
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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #7 on: 09:38:10 AM / 28-Apr-12 »
this is epic....you always hear of stories like this but are hard to confirm. to have that much history on the car is great. would love to see it in the 2013 calendar. what they should do with the calendar is do a retro from the first ones "where are they now" calendar

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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #8 on: 10:04:52 AM / 28-Apr-12 »
Man, that sucks about that S12. It's been tormented its whole life, huh?

Crazy that it was purchased at Bankston. My dad's first Sentra was originally from Bankston.
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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #9 on: 10:23:22 AM / 28-Apr-12 »
I remember seeing it on CL, it had some 17" gold mesh wheels.
I almost bought it too lol small world.

edit: found it!
http://club-s12.org/v3/index.php?topic=32964.0
« Last Edit: 10:42:55 AM / 28-Apr-12 by I_heart_VVL »
1987 SE V6 - Gone
2004 Mazda RX8 GT - Gone
2003 Subaru WRX - Gone
1997 Mazda Miata - SOLD!
2003 Nissan 350Z - Gone
1989 RHD RB25 S13 - Gone, thank god
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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #10 on: 12:05:01 AM / 29-Apr-12 »
holy crap that thing sounds like it went to hell in a handbasket quick!

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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #11 on: 11:27:13 AM / 15-May-12 »
I just revisited this thread... I sincerely hope you get this car back to where it belongs. You did such a good job with it the first time. It's truly a story to be told.
-Jason Arro


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Hella flush and all associates should be gunned down for brainwashing people into thinking a 225 and lots of camber is proper wheel fitment. THAT IS EASY, anyone can camber a skinny as tire till it dosnt rub. Now fitting an 11 with a 315 on stock fender with reasonable camber, that is fitment. And looks, and performs better than both.
i dont own a s12 at the moment but trying to acquire one to get rid of my s13 hatch
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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #12 on: 10:45:53 PM / 10-Mar-15 »
It has been a long journey but, it is time for Red to find a new pal. 3 years in dry storage and life just get more and more hectic. Maybe someone has more time, space and funds than I do. I sure hope she can stay in the family. I know there is quite a bit of interest out there in Red. I can no longer store her after the house is completed. That day is approaching.

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Re: Red Baron - Ongoing Interesting Story
« Reply #13 on: 12:26:14 AM / 11-Mar-15 »
I'd love to take her off your hands, but I'm dead broke (DEAD BROKE) and I just picked up an S12, on top of the S13 and Jeep I already own.

Damn dude, this timing sucks.
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