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Author Topic: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions  (Read 11633 times)

Offline adroitcaptor

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Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #20 on: 12:55:13 AM / 17-Dec-13 »
I was under the impression that the s13 and s14 t/c rods were the same except for the length.  My plan was to use the existing brackets on the car and just modify them. If I am not mistaken, all I need it to cut the middle out, strengthen the sides, and get a shank bolt to fit.

I ran out of money for thev moment but if I did brakes, it would be all 4 corners.

Offline spiderwebfx

Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #21 on: 01:55:18 PM / 17-Dec-13 »
S13 and S14/S15 traction control rods are identical in design, just slightly different length.  For memory, S13 is about 10mm shorter to cater for the shorter lower control arms.

Using the S14 bracket would be a shit ton easier than using and modifying the factory S12 ones.  You also know they're going to be strong enough because that's how they were designed to work.

My S12 has S14 brackets and S13 adjustable traction rods. 
« Last Edit: 01:58:04 PM / 17-Dec-13 by spiderwebfx »

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Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #22 on: 11:46:41 AM / 21-Dec-13 »
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just get s14 ones, you can get them for like $20 if you shop around. everything goes on so smooth with them.
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Offline S12Prelude

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Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #23 on: 06:47:48 PM / 14-Jan-14 »
Has ANYONE used adjustable s13 LCA's and tie rods on their s12? Are there any issues with doing this vs. OEM?

Offline Jay

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Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #24 on: 06:53:53 PM / 14-Jan-14 »
LCA's, yes. When using the the S14 tension rod bracket and tension rod. Used when you want MORE camber, as the S13 LCA is longer than the S12 one. And the S14 one is even longer than the S13.

And, nope. The tie rods are WWWWAAAAAYYY off. Not even in the ballpark for OEM suspension.

If you're trying to use S13 adjustable LCA's on a stock suspension, nobody has tread there as it's of no benefit. Can still find plenty of S12 LCA's around. They might even run into an issue with the steering knuckle. Doubtful, but maybe.
« Last Edit: 07:05:00 PM / 14-Jan-14 by Jay »

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Offline D-sport S12

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Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #25 on: 12:09:14 PM / 15-Jan-14 »
Tie rods are not way off with a rack spacer, dont know about without one
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Offline S12Prelude

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Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #26 on: 02:03:15 PM / 15-Jan-14 »
I don't mean for use on oem s12 suspension. I have full s13 conversion and s14 tc brackets. Wanted some beefier tie rods rather than oem s13 inners

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Offline D-sport S12

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Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #27 on: 03:18:04 PM / 15-Jan-14 »
Got the same setup as you, mine fit pretty good, with room for some adjustment
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Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #28 on: 08:32:03 AM / 16-Jan-14 »
What tie rods are you using? I was looking into teins

Offline D-sport S12

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Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #29 on: 07:06:10 PM / 16-Jan-14 »
I just have factory s13 inner and outers. Teins are pretty good, a friend had them on his 180. I was also looking at dmax riddles, they look to be pretty good for the price
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Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #30 on: 08:07:54 PM / 25-Nov-15 »
I hope this topic is still live. if not i'll post a new thread. I am currently buying parts to do this swap, and am having to order parts, rather than see and hold them to compare. the problem is, the S14 tension rod brackets have an early and late designation. i don't see anywhere in this thread where the difference is specified. anyone seen this or have an answer?

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Re: S12 to S13/S14 conversion questions
« Reply #31 on: 11:45:43 PM / 25-Nov-15 »
Never heard of the sort myself
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