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Offline Xano

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The Price Of Doing Business
« on: 10:57:32 PM / 07-Jul-14 »
Hi all,

I figured I'd update everyone here.

I've renewed our current server hosting subscription for the next year, to help alleviate any outages that may be caused by paying on a month to month basis.  What this means is that I paid the money out of my own bank account to put it forward, in the hopes that others donate to help subsidize at least 50% of that payment throughout the next year. 

Here's a breakdown of our yearly costs, to provide a bit of transparency to you, the end users:
  • Server Hosting: 364 USD/yr
  • Domain Address: 16 USD/yr
  • Base Costs 400 USD/yr
  • Maintenance (24 Hrs * 20 Dollars): 480 USD/yr
  • Total: 860 USD/yr

Let me break those numbers down a little bit.  Server hosting is for the actual server that holds the files and site itself.  It's an unchangeable cost unless we have to add bandwidth, in which case the cost goes up.  Domain address is the registration for "club-s12.org" which allows us to be the exclusive "owner" of that address.  It gives us the right to point that address to our server (see the previous lines about the server hosting).  Those are the two mainly unchangeable costs.

The last one on that list is the maintenance cost.  That is the cost, in hours, that Jason and I put forward to keep the site running and backed up over the course of a year.  That includes occasional downtimes where we have to take the time to decrypt a site backup and restore it, time taken to pay bills, time taken to do various administration tasks that you may not see firsthand, and time taken to sort out issues.  I used a very frugal estimate of 10 dollars per person an hour and 24 work hours per year.  In reality, Jason and I work close to 40 hours a month to keep this fine site running.  Let's put it this way, if I were running this site for my on-the-side consulting business, I'd be charging 40 hours at 50 dollars an hour.  However, we do this because we love the chassis, and we love the community around it. 

To clear up any questions about the ads, they've so far only generated about 50 dollars a year in revenue that goes directly towards paying for the servers.  At our current costs, that's only about a month and a half of costs per year that are recovered via the ads.  I've decided to remove them due to the lack of revenue generated from them.  Once I receive the next deposit from Google, they will be going away.

I don't ask for the maintenance dollar amount to factor into your decision of how much to donate, I just ask that you take it into account when you decide whether to donate or not towards the other portions.  If you'd like to donate, please send PayPal donations to clubs12admin@gmail.com.   Please include a comment on your donation that includes this post title, so Jason and I know whether this post helped increase donations.

Thank you for your time,
Ben M.
Club-S12 Site Admin.

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Offline spiderwebfx

Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #1 on: 06:19:52 AM / 09-Jul-14 »
I just chucked $20USD through.  I know it's not much, but its all I can afford to offer. Hope it helps.

This site has proven to be an invaluable resource of information for my S12 project.  It's the least that can be done to keep this place running properly.
« Last Edit: 06:24:25 AM / 09-Jul-14 by spiderwebfx »

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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #2 on: 07:07:20 AM / 09-Jul-14 »
Any little bit helps!  We appreciate any amount, no matter how small, because it really does help.
~xano


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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #3 on: 03:34:03 PM / 09-Jul-14 »
If the active members alone dug deep and gave only $5.00, all Xano's needs would be more than covered.  And a big bonus for the member is your name turns GREEN, so everyone knows you care about your club!

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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #4 on: 04:23:17 PM / 09-Jul-14 »
I put in $50.  I owe a lot to this site.

I included my name in the payment comments.  Hope that counts to this thread being what go my attention.
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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #5 on: 06:32:33 PM / 09-Jul-14 »
After my escrow closes which is now delayed till the 29th of june, I reserve this post to my future donation.

It's coming just give me a bit.

* as promised donation complete at 08/01/2014
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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #6 on: 07:05:43 PM / 10-Jul-14 »
Sent $25, def have made use of the site.

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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #7 on: 11:05:41 AM / 13-Jul-14 »
Sent $20 ;-)

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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #8 on: 11:37:20 AM / 15-Jul-14 »
I'm going to create a thread to acknowledge the contributors and keep it pinned in this section.
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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #9 on: 01:17:43 AM / 16-Jul-14 »
This site have been great to me, litterally learned everything from scratch when I came here. I'm not so active anymore, but i still love my S12 and it's just that I know enough now that I don't need to come here everytime I have a question. Still, this place is full of ressources and I wanna see it stay alive for a long time.

Just sent a 50$. Long live CS12!

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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #10 on: 12:13:29 AM / 02-Aug-14 »
I could only toss in $5 this round.
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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #11 on: 05:48:53 PM / 05-Aug-14 »
That's OK, we appreciate any little bit!  It helps me not struggle so much to pay for the site in lieu of all the other things I'm paying for now that I own my own house.
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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #12 on: 12:48:02 AM / 06-Aug-14 »
Just curious, but has this thread raised a reasonable amount towards the site?

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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #13 on: 10:23:29 AM / 06-Aug-14 »
It has, we've reached (but have not passed) the base costs I had mentioned above, but don't let that slow any of you down on donating, any extra will go towards future years as well as potentially other projects/items relating to the site.
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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #14 on: 04:18:11 PM / 18-Aug-14 »
You got money!  I'm on a few online car forums and I have to say this is the most friendly and helpful site.
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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #15 on: 09:45:56 AM / 22-Oct-14 »
I sent you some money. Keep  up the great work on the site.

Offline my12

Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #16 on: 07:56:47 AM / 07-Jan-15 »
Just payed my dues for the the year. let me know that you got it and will be sending more later

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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #17 on: 06:24:38 AM / 17-Jan-15 »
I will donate immediately after getting an s12. I appreciate the work. I love how humble this community is and I have read a lot to prepare myself in owning an s12!
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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #18 on: 11:54:43 AM / 03-Feb-17 »
Let me know when dues come around

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Re: The Price Of Doing Business
« Reply #19 on: 03:51:36 PM / 03-Feb-17 »
I do not have a PayPal nor checks be willing to donate is there any other method?? Cash ??? This site has helped me tremendously  and it is just great for reading and ideas pm me