I have been reading this thread for a while and would like to make a rather bold statement....both ideas are correct...to a point. Before anybody starts flaming me for my observations, let me first tell you that I have drifted my \'180sx\' 240sx with two different engine set-ups. The first was the stock ka24de setup plus turbo. I was having a few understeer issues, but could not afford to upgrade my suspension further (tein springs/tokico shocks) I learned to use the understeer to my advantage in the drift, which I believe the first gentleman was eluding to. I had to change my technique, but my drifts were much more breath-taking and oddly, more controlable. I recently switched to a vq30de mated with the rwd 350z\'s 6 speed tranny. This engine actually saved over 50lbs overall and placed the most weight farther back. I had to adjust the front suspension so the nose would\'nt stick up in the air. After driving the new set-up,...which is now much closer to 50/50, it took me along time to get used to it. But my technique changed , and I\'m doin alright again. So in my opinion, the only losers are the ones that flame others that have had good results with different set-ups. I\'ve seen people drift some crazy stuff. If you have to fight over which weight bias is better to drift or drive, then you are narrow minded, and don\'t give a crap about learning technique. Weight doesn\'t matter as much as the driver does. :wink: